ConcordeBoy
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Remembering AF4590, Concorde's Death 7 Years Later

Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:54 pm

Tough to believe that July 25 makes seven years since the tragedy that was AF4590.



Rest in Peace Sierra Charlie, and all of those who died with you on that horrible day.  Sad
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RE: Remembering AF4590, Concorde's Death 7 Years Later

Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:12 pm

Hi Fred,

Geez. 7 years already. I remember it as if it was yesterday...

RIP.

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RE: Remembering AF4590, Concorde's Death 7 Years Later

Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:40 pm

Remember it like it was yesterday.....RIP  Sad

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RE: Remembering AF4590, Concorde's Death 7 Years Later

Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:30 pm

Ditto.

And it's a shame that such a beautiful bird was 'brought down' by politics and issues that weren't of her own making.

RIP Concorde - come on Sonic Cruiser!
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RE: Remembering AF4590, Concorde's Death 7 Years Later

Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:38 pm

This incident really sounded the death knell for the Concorde and the era of supersonic passenger travel. Any plans of putting the Concorde back in the air even for demo/publicity flights?

Don't know if we would ever be able to fly on a supersonic passenger aircraft in our lifetimes!
 
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RE: Remembering AF4590, Concorde's Death 7 Years Later

Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:46 pm

Quoting Vivekman2006 (Reply 4):
Any plans of putting the Concorde back in the air even for demo/publicity flights?

Uh-oh..... don't ask! Big grin Just read this thread:
The Return Of Concorde To The Skies... (by Jenkingeorge Jul 8 2007 in Civil Aviation)

On the topic in hand.... 7 years. Doesn't time fly (no pun intended), RIP all lost that day.

RIP F-BTSC.
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RE: Remembering AF4590, Concorde's Death 7 Years Later

Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:59 pm

Very sad to remember those events - I remember watching the news that evening.

RIP F-BTSC.  Sad

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RE: Remembering AF4590, Concorde's Death 7 Years Later

Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:07 pm

Very Sad for all - RIP  Sad
 
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RE: Remembering AF4590, Concorde's Death 7 Years Later

Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:19 pm

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Thread starter):
Rest in Peace Sierra Charlie

Here here... A sad day for all of aviation.  crying 

Quoting LHRBlueSkies (Reply 3):
RIP Concorde - come on Sonic Cruiser!

Let hope so! "The New Boeing 797!!!"  crossfingers 
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RE: Remembering AF4590, Concorde's Death 7 Years Later

Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:03 pm

This was a horrible day ... I remember it clearly, me and my best friend Angela were in Mexico City
and we had boarded a JAL B747-300 for a flight from MEX to YVR and then onto NRT.

Boarding was fine - so too was the taxi. We commenced the takeoff roll and about 25 seconds into takeoff
the number 4 engine caught on fire, a loud bang went through the cabin and we aborted takeoff....
quite a scary situation.... the fire was extinguished and we limped back to the gate ...

After we disembarked we walked into the terminal in MEX and the crash of Concorde was just being
announced on the TV sets.... we were still shaken by our own issue and then to see the beloved
Concorde has crashed was a surreal and horrible moment...

We remember all passengers, crew and those who lost their lives in the ground.

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RE: Remembering AF4590, Concorde's Death 7 Years Later

Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:25 pm

I will never forget that horrible day.

Concorde Crash (by Cedarjet Jul 25 2000 in Civil Aviation)



[Edited 2007-07-25 10:29:30]
 
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RE: Remembering AF4590, Concorde's Death 7 Years Later

Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:40 pm

While were on topic with the Concorde, look how awesome she looks on takeoff from JFK!

http://www.flightlevel350.com/Aircra...sh_Airways_Aviation_Video-270.html

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RE: Remembering AF4590, Concorde's Death 7 Years Later

Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:41 pm

A former collegue of mine was responsible for a lot of Concorde work since the early seventies. He told me it was a highly motivated team that gave their best to make it happen and strongly identified with the aircraft. He was on the official goodbye flight and was close by when it crashed. He heard the bang and it strongly influenced his live. I have driven by the crash site many times, last years it was still fenced and still people could be seen looking for fragments.
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RE: Remembering AF4590, Concorde's Death 7 Years Later

Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:19 pm

Wow, 7 years already. May they all be Resting in Peace.

I clearly remember that day. I was back in Ireland on holidays and had brought my wife (then girlfriend) down to visit Kerry and the Cork area for a long weekend. We we're driving back to Dublin somewhere nearing Wicklow when the news came on the radio that an AF Concorde had crashed. Shock hit me... how could Concorde crash?! I put the foot down on the accelerator (within reason) to get home to see the news on TV, entered th kitchen where my dad was in the kitchen glued to the TV with a tear in his eyes.
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RE: Remembering AF4590, Concorde's Death 7 Years Later

Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:52 pm

Quoting SNATH (Reply 1):
Geez. 7 years already. I remember it as if it was yesterday

Yeah, same here.

RIP  Sad
 
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RE: Remembering AF4590, Concorde's Death 7 Years L

Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:04 pm

25 July 2000 - the Concorde crash.

Capt.Christian Marty is a hero.

RIP all on AF4590.

www.prisedevue.com/photos.../index.htm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/d...july/25/newsid_2797000/2797965.stm

Dies illa, dies irae,
calamitatis et miseriae,
dies magna et amara valde.
Dum veneris judicare saeculum per ignem.
Requiem aeternam dona eis, Domine,
et lux perpetua luceat eis.



[Edited 2007-07-25 12:07:00]
There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
 
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RE: Remembering AF4590, Concorde's Death 7 Years Later

Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:23 pm

I remember the day.

In fact, just 10 days earlier, Concorde G-BOAA was at Exeter for the weekend and I came to see her. I remember watching behind the video camera as she took off from Runway 08. Little did I know that this would be the last time I saw a Concorde take-off. She landed here some 90 minutes later after one of her "Round The Bay" pleasure flights. We then left for home.

10 days later, and it was the last day of school, we broke up for the summer holidays on 25th July 2000. I got home at 3:50pm and turned on the TV, and put on Ceefax as I used to do to check the news. I got halfway through reading the headline when it suddenly changed to "AF CONCORDE CRASHES IN PARIS"

I could not believe what I was reading, and at first thought it was some mistake, as the initial reports were saying that "it is believed one of Air France's supersonic jets has come down after take-off in Paris." To me, "it is believed" isn't a strong enough evidence. Unfortunately, it turned out to be true. Initial reports were also pointing towards a catastrophic engine fire as the cause. However, as soon as my father (an aircraft engineer) and I saw the first pictures, we both saw the fire was not coming from an engine but from a fuel tank, and that the left hand main undercarriage seemed smaller than the right, suggesting tyre failure. As it turns out, we were speculating in the right areas, but the reality is a sequence of unique, catastrophic circumstances brought down a remarkable airliner.

Concorde, you are sorely missed. I hope all the museums preserve you for eternity, as you deserve.
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RE: Remembering AF4590, Concorde's Death 7 Years Later

Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:33 pm

I will always remember that day  Sad

It was my 22th birthday and also on the day of the crash I was out with some friends for a movie. We wachted FINAL DESTINATION. The very first one with the flight crashing on the way to Paris.......After we saw the movie we heard about the mishap.

A strange day.
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RE: Remembering AF4590, Concorde's Death 7 Years Later

Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:01 pm

One of my coolest memories was when I was in elementary school and the big news in Columbus was that the Concorde was going to make a visit at CMH. We all gathered in the play ground because we had a really good view of CMH, and watched her take off from there. This was in the early/mid 80's. It was a really cool experience. At that time CMH was REALLY tiny. Still not a big airport, but then it was at least a third of the size, with the Rockwell plant next to it.

What a sad day when she went down.
 
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RE: Remembering AF4590, Concorde's Death 7 Years Later

Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:02 pm

Naturally enough, I remember that day all too well.

However, while it was a severe blow to the aircraft, the real death knell was the business environment after Sept 11th, BA (and AF too), had their re-launch plans wrecked by that event, chuck in naturally rising costs of supporting such a tiny fleet of unique aircraft, and you have a 'perfect storm'.

But yes, BA alone must have lost around £30M of expected Concorde revenue during the grounding, add in the £17M of the return to flight mods, neither airline did the difficult, unprecedented mod programme, just to fly another two years.
But the prospect of recouping this in revenue, in the new world after Sept 11th, became suddenly distant, even without all the extra costs.

RIP to all those lost, I don't want myself to go into the ins and outs of the crash itself, it's been done plenty of times since, one 'goundhog day' subject (can it return to flight?-No), on Concorde is enough, for me at least.
Besides, while the technical part of the investigation is long done, the French legal system's judicial part is not, consider how one on an A320 accident in France in 1992, only came to the fore much more recently, in judicial terms.

I've linked it before, but this 12 page piece on the return to flight effort, written in 2002, also illuminates important aspects of the accident, if this subject interests anyone, this is as good a place to start as any;
http://www.concordesst.com/returntoflight/rts/rtsindex.html

[Edited 2007-07-25 15:09:34]
 
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RE: Remembering AF4590, Concorde's Death 7 Years Later

Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:29 pm

Quoting Keesje (Reply 12):
He heard the bang

...that's interesting.

What so many eyewitnesses to the crash report in tandem, was their surprise at the lack of a loud/expansive "bang" upon impact.
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RE: Remembering AF4590, Concorde's Death 7 Years Later

Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:32 pm

7 years.

Wow, seems like last week. Remember that picture all over the papers the next day, the video footage and the reports.
 Sad
Where does the time go???

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