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What happens to old airplane seats once they are replaced?

Fri Jul 27, 2007 3:35 am

Good airlines update their interiors once in a while. Like Cathay and Singapore are doing at the moment.

Obviously they sell on their old seats but who would be interested in buying them and what for? Say Cathay is refitting 70 planes at on average 300 seats each = 21000 seats! Who would buy 21000 old seats?
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Fri Jul 27, 2007 3:44 am

Are you selling seats or is the airline selling seats?
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Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:36 am

Remember most of those seats will be Y seats - only the real enthusiast would want them. Eco seats are not particularly comfy.

On the other hand, a lie flat first class suite with the TV slaved to the IFE screen would do quite nicely in my lounge.  Wink
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Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:37 am

Not-so-old seats = I guess start-up airlines or airlines who want to upgrade from what they already have. Eg. BA's club world cradle seats, which are now used by lots of different airlines.

OOOOOld seats = scrap yards, parting out (eg. tray tables, seatback pockets etc) and people like us!
 
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Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:38 am

that would make a kicking cool video game seat - where can we get em from?
 
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Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:56 am

Great to know I'm not the only one interested in airplane seats...  Smile

Just recently came across this site, which I'm sure offers some pretty cool seats:

http://airlinerseats.com/Gallery.php

Also, check out e-bay under the term " aviation"...that's pretty rich!

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Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:58 pm

Great web site... would be fun to have some of those
 
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Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:05 pm

Lufthansa sells their old seats, and even advertises it through their in-flight magazine. They were advertising their old business class seats the last time I flew them.
 
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Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:15 pm

I have a set of those blue DL 1st class seats...I paid $350 on ebay. They were so dirty I spent 10 hours cleaning them.
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Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:40 pm

Quoting United_Fan (Reply 8):
They were so dirty I spent 10 hours cleaning them.

 yuck 

Were those right off the airline, or were they held in storage (IE were they could get dirty.) I sure hope they were not right off the plane!!  Wink
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Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:02 pm

Quoting HowSwedeitis (Reply 9):
Were those right off the airline, or were they held in storage (IE were they could get dirty.) I sure hope they were not right off the plane!!

Both,there was alot of food and crumbs an the like . The seats totally disassemble,too.
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Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:20 pm

I remember an episode of Mythbusters where they went to a massive warehouse to buy a few row's of airline seats and there were quite a few to choose from ...

Quoting Helvknight (Reply 2):
On the other hand, a lie flat first class suite with the TV slaved to the IFE screen would do quite nicely in my lounge.

And the freight would break your bank.  Wink
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Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:24 pm

I'd love to buy some airline seats for my work. Get a Y class seat and pop it on casters for my office chair.

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Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:26 pm

Here is the link for buying LH seats:

http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...rvices/partner?l=en&nodeid=1772339

Including one that has been converted to an office chair...

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Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:29 pm

Y class or domestic F seats work well as pax seats in a van.
I used to have a pair of domestic F seats in my van mounted on aircraft seat track so I could convert from pax to full cargo in about five minutes.

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Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:23 pm

I scrounged an economy class 3-seater for my dorm room one year. Too bad some of my co-inhabitants decided to test whether they really were flame retardant the next year or I would have had them again. I can only guess where they came from but they were in fairly good shape. There was also a 2-piece set of seats that another guy had and my college was fairly near Pittsburgh so I'm guessing they came from an old USAir DC-9.
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Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:43 pm

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Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:14 am

I took a ferry from St. Thomas to Tortola a couple years ago. The old beater boat had what looked like recycled 727 or 707 seats all jammed in there - must have been like 26" pitch...  crowded 
 
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Sat Jul 28, 2007 1:15 am

Those things are crazy expensive! When Southwest Airlines began updating their interiors in 2001, they sold entire shipsets of seats to Employees. A bank of three seats sold for $25. The seats were cash-and-carry, some folks without pickup trucks were even trying to load the things turned upside down into the back seats of their cars.

I'd have liked to have gotten a bank of three and the odd bank of two (from the emergency exit row) and made them into a sofa and loveseat, lol.

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Sat Jul 28, 2007 1:45 am

Quoting Iflyswa (Reply 18):
Those things are crazy expensive!

Ten years ago, the going price at Boeing Surplus was about $100

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Sat Jul 28, 2007 1:49 am

Quoting BrettFromCLT (Reply 17):
took a ferry from St. Thomas to Tortola a couple years ago. The old beater boat had what looked like recycled 727 or 707 seats all jammed in there - must have been like 26" pitch...

I think I've been on the same boat, about 1996, going the other way from Tortola to St. Thomas. I remember it being incredibly unconfortable to sit, but too rough to stand. The seats were similar to those in the classic Boeings, so 727 or 707 is a good guess.
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Sat Jul 28, 2007 2:22 am

I have some old seats from an AA MD83, row 19 seats C and D if I remember correctly. Got them for free  biggrin  from an AAR guy at OKC.

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Sat Jul 28, 2007 3:03 am

I bought 3 rows of ana 767 being converted to freighter,, it still had all the music buttons and joy sticks things
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Sat Jul 28, 2007 3:28 am

I wonder what Delta will do with the economy class seats that the domestic 767-300s currently feature. Even though some of them got the leather upgrades, they are shorter than what most airlines currently offer, and in fact are too short to fit PTVs in them, as they are a 1980s design. They are soon slated to get new taller, slimmer seats for greater capacity, more comfort, and PTVs.

Maybe I should buy one of those seats, preferrably with the leather covers.

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Sat Jul 28, 2007 3:29 am

Delta periodically has hangar sales for employees and guests. It's a safe bet that there could be some BE seats for sale next year.
 
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Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:18 am

I never gave much thought about what happens to them!
I'm giving some thought as to how you managed to title your thread with uncapitalized words though...  Smile
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Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:21 am

Quoting 4holer (Reply 25):
I'm giving some thought as to how you managed to title your thread with uncapitalized words though...

Me too!
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Sat Jul 28, 2007 11:54 am

Thanks to the person who provided the airlineseats.com link. We may be of getting rid of our Concorde seats. Looks like a very informative site!

I was offered DL 767 seats last year and turned them down. It was the freight charges that made it unpalatable.
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Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:14 pm

There is a large secondhand seat market. They are not just sold to enthusiasts or scrapped unless they are real old. Various companies purchase many shipset of these as airlines replace them. They hold them in warehouses unserviceable and then onward sell them to airlines or leasing companies after they are refurbished/overhauled.

Generally most cannot just be installed on any aircraft as the manufacturers of them receive TSO approval by the FAA only for certain types of aircraft and changing that is usually difficult and time consuming. TSO approval is just for the ability to install them on an aircraft type, but their interface with the aircraft structure must also be analyzed structurally and FAA approved before one can actually install them in an arrangement.
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Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:05 pm

Quoting TZTriStar500 (Reply 28):
interface with the aircraft structure must also be analyzed structurally and FAA approved before one can actually install them in an arrangement.

In addition to structural analysis, the interior configuration must be reviewed for complaince with FAA safety regs. Also if the seating contains electronics, EMI testing may be required. A Supplemental Type Certificate is issued to approve the modifications to the aircraft.

None of this precludes installing used seats, just take $$ and there are plenty of us that will be happy to take your $$ to do the job.

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Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:59 pm

I travelled with a flying dolphin (a kind of fast boat) this weekend. Although there are no seatbelts usually, the tray tables had the "please fasten your seat belt while seated" sticker in both English and Italian. I looked closer to the seats and on the sides on the plastic panel there was the Alitalia logo. So that is where some seats go...
 
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Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:35 pm

Quoting Cloudyapple (Thread starter):
Obviously they sell on their old seats but who would be interested in buying them and what for? Say Cathay is refitting 70 planes at on average 300 seats each = 21000 seats! Who would buy 21000 old seats

The majority of the old aircraft seats end up in the same place as old aircraft, in a scrap yard.
 
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Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:45 pm

Look on Craigslist! What can't you find there?  Wink
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Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:51 pm

Quoting 474218 (Reply 31):
The majority of the old aircraft seats end up in the same place as old aircraft, in a scrap yard.

Correct. The majority of the seats are sold as scrap. The bulk of the frame is aluminum, so it has value there. If you really saw how nasty and dirty the seats really are you would not be so excited to have one in your house.
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Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:11 am

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 33):
If you really saw how nasty and dirty the seats really are you would not be so excited to have one in your house.

I've seen fairly new planes with the seat covers off and quantity and colors of stains are beyond belief.  vomit 

 alert  Seat covers and cushions must be washed whenever procuring used seats.  alert 
 
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Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:26 am

Quoting Tod (Reply 29):
A Supplemental Type Certificate is issued to approve the modifications to the aircraft.

Not always. Depending on the level of modification and complexity, interior reconfigurations can and have been approved under an FAA Form 337 (Major Alteration approval). The leasing companies do this all the time.

Quoting Tod (Reply 34):
Seat covers and cushions must be washed whenever procuring used seats.

In most cases, cushions and covers are replaced on used seats. They only last about 5-10 years optimally.
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Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:41 am

Qantas seats seem to go to Air Chittock!
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Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:52 am

I know that old business class seats end up in Aussie_'s living room.
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Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:07 am

These are the seats I bought 2 years ago....


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I found then in CLE on ebay , ended up outbidding someone and won them for $350. Since they wouldn't fit into either of my cars,and a Uhaul would cost me over $400 with gas & miles, and my employer doesn't let us take vehicles out-of-state,I had them shipped commom-carrier for $250. Like I stated above,they were discustingly dirty. Nasty,nasty,nasty.....These seats haven't been this clean since they were new Now if I could only get the phone to work .........

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