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The Jetsgo Joke

Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:29 am

Alright so I was talking to some co workers the other day. For any of you Canadian guys, you'll remember Jetsgo back a few years now. We were discussing some things and how much of a joke this airline was. Apparantly they used retired Md-83's from AA. They were anything but airworthy. Numorous wing strikes as well as one running off the runway at YYC, as well as an aborted landing where they went around and came extremly close to the YYC tower. And as I was told, near the end when they were selling fares at 2.00 a seat someone told me they were flying at 10000 ft for short routes in order to save fuel. Like YYC-YEG or YYC-YXE. Can anyone confirm or put these rumors to rest? Just some thing I heard that soundsa bit out there. None the less the airline was a joke. Sometimes I laugh when thinking back to the old Jetsgo days.



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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:48 am

Quoting Boeingluvr (Thread starter):
And as I was told, near the end when they were selling fares at 2.00 a seat someone told me they were flying at 10000 ft for short routes in order to save fuel.

Not quite. Transport Canada issued an injunction against them that they could not fly above a certain altitude in an effort to force them to get their maintenance documentation up to date. This was on all routes...

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/144218


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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:51 am

I flew with them a few times not long after they started operating and found that their service was ok and friendly for the price of the ticket.

However, close to their demise most of the scenarios you mention rang true. They did allegedly have an incident at Calgary where they apparently mistook the runway edge lighting for the centreline and landed part on the grass/snow and part on the tarmac. Luck was on their side and they managed to go around and land safely.

They also allegedly had an incident at YYZ where they left debris on departure. Can't remember if it was an engine part or blown tyre but ATC was pissed at them having not reported it and leaving FOD on the active runway.

In the later stages allegedly they lost some form of certification from Transport Canada (someone else could clarify the details) which resulted with them not being allowed to fly their Mad Dogs above FL280. This was at a time when fuel was a major issue and I think this was the ultimate nail in the coffin. The lower altitudes meant they were burning more fuel and allegedly taking more chances by flying on reserves.

Another "rumour" was that on one occasion they actually had to be towed to the gate at YYZ as they had ran out of fuel taxiing from the active.

Anyways, I'm sure some people could clarify or refute these stories, but it was fairly common knowledge that they were running a very shoddy operation in the latter days.
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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:54 am

Quoting Cruiser (Reply 1):
Not quite. Transport Canada issued an injunction against them that they could not fly above a certain altitude in an effort to force them to get their maintenance documentation up to date. This was on all routes...

James, you beat me to it....you must be as busy as me!!  Big grin
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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:55 am

While I hardly think Jetsgo got things right (errr, they're gone right), everybody focused on those $2 fares. I don't think that's right. They were promotional gimics of which there was an extremely limited inventory. If 10 more folks bought regular fare seats because of 2 $2 seats offered on a particular flight, then it all evens out. Plus, it is my understanding from someone who works in rev management at a rival that the return fares on many of those routes with $2 fares were sometimes higher as a result -- also evening things.

Much has been made of the airline's fleet choice as well. Obviously the MD-83 wasn't suited to the trans-con routes the airline was running. But to me the airline's biggest mistake was to expand too fast, in particular taking on the country's other two main carriers in their respectively important triangle markets (Ottawa, Montreal, Toronto, and out west Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver) AT THE SAME TIME, and without being adequately capitalized.
 
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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:56 am

I was living in Europe at the time, but some pilot buddies of mine relayed these rumors to me as they unfolded. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. Looks like from that article liknk that both Jetsgo and Transport Canada were a little slow on enforcing maintenance. Transport Canada needs to wake up a bit!

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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:59 am

What

Quoting Boeingluvr (Thread starter):
Numorous wing strikes as well as one running off the runway at YYC, as well as an aborted landing where they went around and came extremly close to the YYC tower.

Hey wow... I never knew about this... do you know of any other incident other than the one that took place in YYC? Or are you hearing from a friend of a friend of yours? And if you do... I don't mean Wikipedia.. i mean actual events.
 
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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:02 am

I was told this from a friend who worked in YYC for Jetsgo. Apparantly the ATC's in the tower ducked as it looked initially like the MD82 was going to nick the tower on the go around... Once again it's hearsay but from someone who worked for Jetsgo. But if pilots are mistaking the landing lights on the runway for the centerline... It really doesn't surprise me.

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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:04 am

Quoting Fly2YYZ (Reply 6):
Hey wow... I never knew about this... do you know of any other incident other than the one that took place in YYC? Or are you hearing from a friend of a friend of yours? And if you do... I don't mean Wikipedia.. i mean actual events.

There are many incidents mentioned within the Toronto Star link which Cruiser responded with in reply #1 which re-iterates those I mentioned in my response (reply #2).

None of this was fictional.
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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:11 am

Quoting 808TWA (Reply 3):
James, you beat me to it....you must be as busy as me!!

 Wink

Quoting Fly2YYZ (Reply 6):
Hey wow... I never knew about this... do you know of any other incident other than the one that took place in YYC? Or are you hearing from a friend of a friend of yours? And if you do... I don't mean Wikipedia.. i mean actual events

http://www.airlinecrew.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=178766
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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:39 am

Quoting Boeingluvr (Thread starter):
Apparantly they used retired Md-83's from AA.

I don't know who gave you that information, but it is wrong. SG has indeed operated a fleet of MD-83s as well as a few MD-82s, but none came from AA. What was previously operated by AA was the F100s they added during 2004. Go get a look at Jetsgo fleet for more detailed informations such as the previous operators of each aircraft by clicking on their respectivce construction number c/n.

Jetsgo fleet

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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:10 am

Jetsgo is more proof that Michel Leblanc shouldn't be allowed to have anything to do with the Canadian aviation industry.
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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:45 am

The range and fuel capacity on some of the planes was not sufficient to fly from YYZ to YVR with a full load and full baggage at the lower flight level. I was on a competitors flight (in their Maple Leaf Lounge Big grin ) when the concierge was chatting with the agent on duty about the gaul they had trying to book a container on their next flight to fly the baggage out to YVR. They were having quite the laugh about it.

Royal Airlines was no better when it was flying either. I know ground personnel who would not fly a number of the airlines (one for the Airline he worked for) because they knew the service records were spotty.
 
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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:59 am

Quoting 808TWA (Reply 2):
They did allegedly have an incident at Calgary where they apparently mistook the runway edge lighting for the centreline and landed part on the grass/snow and part on the tarmac. Luck was on their side and they managed to go around and land safely.

It actually happened, they took out a taxi-way sign and left some nice tire tracks in the grass. I saw the pics

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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:01 am

Quoting MattRB (Reply 11):
Jetsgo is more proof that Michel Leblanc shouldn't be allowed to have anything to do with the Canadian aviation industry.

Sounds like the perfect guy to run NW when Steenland is gone  Smile.

Seriously though, the guy seems like the Canadian version of Frank Lorenzo. As far as I am concerned, he should have to pay the $30,000 to every pilot that paid that to work for him. What a slimeball.
 
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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:11 am

Quoting OceansWorld (Reply 10):
I don't know who gave you that information, but it is wrong. SG has indeed operated a fleet of MD-83s as well as a few MD-82s, but none came from AA.

Ahem... two of them were actually ex AA...


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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:05 am

Quoting OceansWorld (Reply 10):
I don't know who gave you that information, but it is wrong. SG has indeed operated a fleet of MD-83s as well as a few MD-82s, but none came from AA. What was previously operated by AA was the F100s they added during 2004. Go get a look at Jetsgo fleet for more detailed informations such as the previous operators of each aircraft by clicking on their respectivce construction number c/n.

That site you gave me actually shows many of them belonged to AA and a lot of them ended up being stored by AA. Did you lookat atll of that website, or just browse?

Quoting MattRB (Reply 11):
Jetsgo is more proof that Michel Leblanc shouldn't be allowed to have anything to do with the Canadian aviation industry.

Haha he isn't now. Apparantly he has his hand in Europe trying to start an LCC over there haha! Lol.
 
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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:07 am

Quoting Boeingluvr (Thread starter):
someone told me they were flying at 10000 ft for short routes in order to save fuel.

dont you burn more fuel at lower altitudes?
 
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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:23 am

That's why I was surprised to hear about that. Airs a little thinner at FL400 compared to 10000. I think it was due to Transport Canada not fuel. However I'm surprised that they were allowed to do so. Would that not conflict with a lot of low lever aircraft restrictions at some airports?? I know that in YYC there is a minimum for commercial IFR aircraft over some parts of Calgary due to flight schools around the area and YBW as well.
 
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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:55 am

If this was a baseball game, Michel Leblanc would be out (3 strikes that is, Royal, Canada 3000, and Jetsgo).
 
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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sat Jul 28, 2007 1:26 pm

If it was baseball he would never have been a player. Investors would never go for a fourth. As if he could ever get the money going. Actuallyhe ran a ssmall airline in Quebec as well did he not? Not sure if it's still operating but I wouldn't think so as I have not even heard of it for ever and I can't remember the name. So how about 4 strikes lol?!
 
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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:15 pm

Hey what do you know. A thread about me.  Smile
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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:18 pm

Quoting JetsGo (Reply 21):
Hey what do you know. A thread about me.

hmm... Something to be proud of? Lol.
 
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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:33 pm

I think what they are referring to is that Jetsgo lost their RVSM certification (or never got it in the first place). Therefore they were forced to stay at FL280 and below. Obviously you'll burn more fuel at 280 flying for 4 hours as opposed to 350-390. I believe they were forced to make tech stops doing cross country flights due to this.
 
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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:42 pm

Quoting Briboy (Reply 15):
Ahem... two of them were actually ex AA..

All I can say there is that I clicked on most of the MD-80s to check whether any came from AA, and I didn't noticed the two QQ registration, this is why I said that none were previously operated by AA, when two were. My mistake, and thanks for pointing it out.

Quoting Boeingluvr (Reply 16):
That site you gave me actually shows many of them belonged to AA and a lot of them ended up being stored by AA. Did you lookat atll of that website, or just browse?

I said that none of the MD-80s came from AA, because:

Quoting Boeingluvr (Thread starter):
Apparantly they used retired Md-83's from AA.

but my answer wasn't 100% correct as shown above. Though I don't see two aircraft as "many". And for the rest of the fleet, here's what I said:

Quoting OceansWorld (Reply 10):
What was previously operated by AA was the F100s they added during 2004.

So yes, not only did I remember that those Fokkers were former AA aircraft stored for a while, but I also checked it with the link I provided.

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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:16 pm

Jetsgo problem was ML and if I recall it right he sold Royal to C3....., yes they had issues mostly caused by incompetent management....... believe me if they would not have expanded their network like there is no tomorrow they still would be around....... and give AC & WS a run for their money.....

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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:28 pm

Quoting Swissy (Reply 25):
believe me if they would not have expanded their network like there is no tomorrow they still would be around.......

Isn't it in general the greatest and most common mistake made by airlines managements ?

In Jetsgo's case this means a fleet of six aircraft in 2002, thirteen in 2003, and 32 in 2004 allthought I'm not sure if every F100 ever entered service.
 
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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sat Jul 28, 2007 9:25 pm

A WestJet pilot was telling me that on a flight to the US one time, he overheard ATC getting furious with a JetsGo flight because he wouldn't answer his radio calls. Apparently they had to scramble some fighter jets to check out the situation. Anyone else hear about this?
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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:41 pm

Quoting OceansWorld (Reply 26):
Isn't it in general the greatest and most common mistake made by airlines managements ?

Yep I call it GW (have not found a english word for it)..........  Smile

Quoting OceansWorld (Reply 26):
In Jetsgo's case this means a fleet of six aircraft in 2002, thirteen in 2003, and 32 in 2004 allthought I'm not sure if every F100 ever entered service.

Up to 2003 they were doing ok but after 2003 the insanity started........ IIRC they had some sweet lease agreement for these mad dogs.....

Quoting YZFOO7F (Reply 27):
A WestJet pilot was telling me that on a flight to the US one time, he overheard ATC getting furious with a JetsGo flight because he wouldn't answer his radio calls. Apparently they had to scramble some fighter jets to check out the situation. Anyone else hear about this?

There are many stories buzzing around about Jetsgo half of them are probably made up...... just like above, were is the link as I am sure it would have made the news.... or maybe some one has a link to that story

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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sat Jul 28, 2007 11:00 pm

Quoting Swissy (Reply 28):
There are many stories buzzing around about Jetsgo half of them are probably made up...... just like above, were is the link as I am sure it would have made the news.... or maybe some one has a link to that story

Every airline and just about every pilot has missed an ATC call. Just about every controller has missed a call from an aircraft ... it happens. If it happens in a sensitive area, actions will be taken. Much like I saw a Comair CL65 escorted to the runway in YOW due to a series of missed calls due to an incorrect frequency transfer ... it happens.

I have always imagined the majority of the horror stories I have heard about Jetsgo were urban legend ... until I saw the pictures of the runway excursion in YYC due to spatial disorientation during a low visibility approach. It was a very close call.
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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sat Jul 28, 2007 11:20 pm

I have to say, I didn't have any troubles with JetsGo while flying with them, but their demise certainly was one that was quite despicable. Michel Leblanc has killed too many airlines in this country, including one of my favorites, Royal Airlines.

I believe at least one of the MD83s I was on was ex-Korean Airlines. Can anyone follow up?
 
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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sat Jul 28, 2007 11:49 pm

Most of the MD's were ex KAL birds if I am not mistaken., Ironic enough Southeast also flew birds that were ex KAL and from what I understand they were all MX hogs and VERY expensive to operate. I recall one sitting out at SRQ for around 4 days due to MX issues at some point. I was there wehen she initially taxied out, she took the active commenced roll than slammed on the brakes and came back to the gate and there she was for a few days untill MX could bring her back to life enough to ferry her back nort of the boarder. I do not recall the cause but I do remember that their airplanes were not too reliable. The Fokkers were a bit more reliable though in that sense as they generally went come hell or high water.
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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:00 am

Quoting 808TWA (Reply 2):
Another "rumour" was that on one occasion they actually had to be towed to the gate at YYZ as they had ran out of fuel taxiing from the active.

I'm not a defender of Jetsgo, but that just sounds rediculouse. Don't think any pilot would allow that to happen.  Wink
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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:10 am

It was a joke airline from the start... that stupid green smiley face on the tail said it all, from day one.

I was thrilled when they finally shut their doors, to the benefit of AC and WS. The only thing that upset me was the fact I didn't buy a whole stack of WS shares a couple of days prior!
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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:17 am

Quoting Irobertson (Reply 30):
I believe at least one of the MD83s I was on was ex-Korean Airlines. Can anyone follow up?

C-GKLJ
C-GKLC
C-GKLR
C-GKLN
C-GKLQ

I believe all these frames originally delivered to Korean AL.

C-GKLT
C-GKLO
C-GKLY
C-GKLZ
C-FRYA
C-GRMJ
C-FKLO
C-FKLY
C-FKLZ

These I believe originally were delivered to AOM

C-FKLI
C-GKLK

These two I believe came from American via Reno Air.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Quoting CYLW (Reply 23):
I believe they were forced to make tech stops doing cross country flights due to this.

I believe this to be TC's way of penalizing an airline without official fining them. I do know of one other airline that was slapped with this FL280 restriction in the past few years. It was my understanding that it was to do with some minor flight ops issues.

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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sun Jul 29, 2007 2:06 am

Quoting Sanjet (Reply 32):
I'm not a defender of Jetsgo, but that just sounds rediculouse. Don't think any pilot would allow that to happen.  

It can, and has, happened before and not just with Jetsgo, but with respectable airlines like Pan Am (747 at JFK) or Qantas (at LHR if I remember correctly). An airliner can take off with legal reserves and run into all kinds of issues in flight-detouring around thunderstorms, traffic, holds, missed approach, unforecast headwinds, etc. In fact in one case (Avianca 707 at JFK), they plain ran out of fuel in flight due to a series of weather and traffic delays.

There have of course been other cases of fuel exhaustion due to major screwups (Air Transat, Gimli Glider), but there have also been numerous close calls due to the above factors. Of course a pilot is supposed to stay on top of things and manage fuel when delays occur, and if unforeseen factors cut into reserves, declaring an emergency remains an option.

As for the lower altitude thing, as correctly pointed out it had nothing to do with saving fuel (in fact dogging along at lower altitudes in a jet will do the opposite) and everything to do with lack of RVSM certification, which as I recall had to do with deficient SOPs in their manuals.

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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sun Jul 29, 2007 2:09 am

Quoting CP744 (Reply 34):
I do know of one other airline that was slapped with this FL280 restriction in the past few years.

While they weren't based in Canada, I believe Independence Air had lost their RVSM rights right before the end. Although in a primarily CRJ fleet that isn't the biggest tragedy.
 
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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:42 am

Quoting LongHauler (Reply 29):
I have always imagined the majority of the horror stories I have heard about Jetsgo were urban legend ... until I saw the pictures of the runway excursion in YYC due to spatial disorientation during a low visibility approach. It was a very close call.

Agree 100%, as close as you can get without crashing........

Quoting A332 (Reply 33):
It was a joke airline from the start... that stupid green smiley face on the tail said it all, from day one.

But it gave them a brand identity even in Europe people I spoke to know the smile just like AC with the mighty maple leave..... what about WS....................

Quoting A332 (Reply 33):
didn't buy a whole stack of WS shares a couple of days prior!

You should have bought some back in 2001  Wink

Quoting Irobertson (Reply 30):
I have to say, I didn't have any troubles with JetsGo while flying with them

And so did a lot of people

Quoting Irobertson (Reply 30):
Michel Leblanc has killed too many airlines in this country, including one of my favorites, Royal Airlines.

And he still walks around like nothing happen, which is a disaster, he put a lot of good people out of work

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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:24 am

Can someone explain the whole C$30,000 payment that employed pilots had to make to Jetsgo?
If I understand correctly, each newly hired pilot had to post this "bond" that I guess would cover expenses related to training, etc., and that at some point it would be refunded (?).
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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:58 am

Yes I've heard different things... From after a year to after 3 months it would be refunded. I was told by a Canjet pilot back in the day that a lot of pilots got screwed on that deal! Too bad for them... I just can't get over how terribly run that opperation was. Let's hope he's not allowed to start another one. For the good and safety of us all. He'd probably start using DC-9's and 732's.
 
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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sun Jul 29, 2007 7:20 am

Quoting Planenutz (Reply 38):
Can someone explain the whole C$30,000 payment that employed pilots had to make to Jetsgo?

In that way he was "very smart" using F100 & MDs and on top of that pilots had to pay up front for their own certification but because the senior (senile) management ran Jetsgo like i... some pilots/employees got burned badly...

Quoting Boeingluvr (Reply 39):
Let's hope he's not allowed to start another one.

Agree 100% and lets not forget he screwed a lot of suppliers too

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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:23 am

Like I say... investors would never go for it!
 
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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:38 pm

Quoting Boeingluvr (Reply 41):
Like I say... investors would never go for it!

I don't think he even required much outside investment for Jetsgo IIRC, since he did take like a $40M payout in Canada 3000 stock when he sold Royal Airlines did he not?
 
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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:25 am

Possibly not... Well he must have lots a lot of that with Jetsgo. All the same investor would still never go for it given his track record!.
 
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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:06 pm

http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairlinerphotos/photos/big/00005163.jpg

This one says it all.
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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:00 pm

The look on Leblancs face after his third disaster. Lol.
 
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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:42 pm

I miss some of those Flight attendants!  Wink
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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:57 pm

Quoting Boeingluvr (Thread starter):
Sometimes I laugh when thinking back to the old Jetsgo days.

The laid-off employee's and stranded passengers didn't think it was funny. You might want to give some consideration to the staff that did their best while working for an idiot like LeBlanc. None of them were laughing.
 
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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:03 am

Quoting Accargo (Reply 47):
The laid-off employee's and stranded passengers didn't think it was funny. You might want to give some consideration to the staff that did their best while working for an idiot like LeBlanc. None of them were laughing.

O god it's you again. I'm thinking in terms of the storys and the way it was run... And obviously I'm not the only one that thinks that way. With al the hiring WS has been doing I'm sure they had no problem finding jobs again. Lighten up bud! When did I ever say I thought employees getting laid off was funny??

[Edited 2007-07-30 20:07:23]
 
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RE: The Jetsgo Joke

Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:31 am

Quoting Boeingluvr (Reply 48):
O god it's you again. I'm thinking in terms of the storys and the way it was run... And obviously I'm not the only one that thinks that way. With al the hiring WS has been doing I'm sure they had no problem finding jobs again. Lighten up bud! When did I ever say I thought employees getting laid off was funny??

O god yes it is me again.  Silly  Silly  Silly

Your always so clear on what you meant in your posts.  Yeah sure  Silly

I guess you must have a hell of a sense of humour, I'm sure it will serve you well in your illustrious future as an Airline Pilot.  Big grin

You'd be surprised where some of those Jetsgo employee's have ended up working. Don't worry though, it could never happen to you.  Wink

tata for now.

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