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WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:49 am

CALGARY, ALBERTA--(MARKET WIRE)--Jul 31, 2007 -- WestJet (Toronto:WJA.TO - News) today announced it has signed an agreement with The Boeing Company for the purchase of 20 Boeing 737 Next-Generation aircraft.
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Ken McKenzie, WestJet Executive Vice-President, Operations commented, "Consumer demand for WestJet continues to grow. We have had a significant impact on the North American airline industry and require these additional aircraft to satisfy the demands of our guests for our services in Canada, the United States, the Caribbean and Mexico

Fourteen aircraft are scheduled to be delivered in 2012 with an additional six in 2013. The agreement is for the purchase of 737-700 series aircraft with options on all aircraft to be converted to 737-800 if desired.

"This is one of the largest orders in WestJet's history," added Mr. McKenzie. "From a financial perspective, we are one of the healthiest airlines in North America. Our proven brand and unique culture combined with the support of our guests gives us the ability to grow over the next decade. Through 2013, we have numerous capacity deployment opportunities in which we envision WestJet flying to over 60 destinations in North America, Mexico and the Caribbean on a scheduled basis."
 
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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:54 am

No -900s yet for WestJet, eh? Bummer. I was hoping they could have been the first to operate all 4 subtypes of the 737.
Oh well, maybe another airline then.
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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:55 am

Hopefully this will shut up the 787 rumours for a year or two.  Smile Good for WS, I love having the option not to fly on Big Red when I'm heading out of YYC. Good to see they didn't consider any more -600's; their loads are only getting stronger yet they bought smaller planes. I've twice seen a -700 load attempted to be stuffed into a -600...not good.
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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Wed Aug 01, 2007 9:02 am

Quoting CO737800 (Thread starter):
Through 2013, we have numerous capacity deployment opportunities in which we envision WestJet flying to over 60 destinations in North America, Mexico and the Caribbean on a scheduled basis."

So with WestJet currently flying to 41 destinations (from what I counted from their routemap), looks like they are going to be adding 20+ flights..

I am assuming at least 5 more will be caribbean.. wonder how much they will travel into the US? They seem to have a big void there.. but they are a canadian airline.. wonder if they can/will do Iceland or Russia?

Hmm.. the possibilities...
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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Wed Aug 01, 2007 9:06 am

Thanks for posting. With existing commitments for 84 NG's (of which 66 have been delivered), this will push the WS NG fleet to 104.

Obviously WS remains fully committed to the 73G and smaller increments of the 738, while not adding any more 736 (or the 739ER yet).

They also seem to show no interest in adding a smaller aircraft such as the E190/170 to attack smaller markets. Yet, anyway.
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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Wed Aug 01, 2007 9:07 am

Quoting FlagshipAZ (Reply 1):
Oh well, maybe another airline then.

I think the -600 is dead, if not, nobody that flies a -900 is certainly going to buy one. This is Canada though, and there's less people...a -900 will still be too big for what WS is shooting for, at least in the next few years.

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 3):
wonder if they can/will do Iceland or Russia?

Umm, why?
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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Wed Aug 01, 2007 9:11 am

Quoting Acey (Reply 5):
Umm, why?

Beats me.. just wondering out loud.. good to hear WestJet is doing good.. hopefully will see them more in the US.. back in the day, there were more canadian options from the US... hopefully WJ will offer another choice besides AC.. I wouldn't mind trying them out to Toronto.
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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Wed Aug 01, 2007 9:12 am

Quoting Acey (Reply 5):
This is Canada though, and there's less people...a -900 will still be too big for what WS is shooting for, at least in the next few years.

I disagree. WS has 6 738's and 3 more on order. Their heavier transcon routes YYZ-YYC/YVR could certainly support the 739ER. The question is whether they want a small specialty fleet of 739ER aircraft. Perhaps not, just yet.
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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Wed Aug 01, 2007 9:14 am

Quoting Yyz717 (Reply 4):
E190

Probably not since they already fly a few -600's (119 seats) with which all of their crew are already rated. In a WS configuration, there could be as many as 114 seats in the E190; too close. Though the E190 is a fair bit lighter than the -600 the penalties of operating a whole new subfleet might eat that way.

Quoting Yyz717 (Reply 7):
Their heavier transcon routes YYZ-YYC/YVR could certainly support the 739ER.

I just don't feel as if their current aircraft on said routes are at capacity.
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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:25 am

Quoting Yyz717 (Reply 7):
Their heavier transcon routes YYZ-YYC/YVR could certainly support the 739ER.

I would certainly agree. AC can manage to fill a 763 or A333/A343 on these routes and with significant frequency. There is no reason that WJ couldn't do the same.

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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:08 pm

Quoting Cruiser (Reply 9):
AC can manage to fill a 763 or A333/A343 on these routes

Well, on YYZ-YVR yes...YYC-YYZ only sees a widebody if they're trying to get equipment in to run an overseas flight, which is rarely. I'm curious as to how the 77W will get into YYC to operate AC 850 to LHR...YYC spotters be ready!
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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:21 pm

Quoting Acey (Reply 10):
I'm curious as to how the 77W will get into YYC to operate AC 850 to LHR...YYC spotters be ready!

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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:30 pm

Quoting Acey (Reply 10):
I'm curious as to how the 77W will get into YYC to operate AC 850 to LHR

It's coming in tomorrow from LHR. Tonight's AC848 (YYZ-LHR) turns to AC851 01Aug LHR-YYC. Scheduled to arrive YYC 1420.
 
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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Wed Aug 01, 2007 2:18 pm

It seems weird to me that they would place an order that would arrive in 2012 and 2013, that seems like so far away, 14 years! do they really expect to need that exact amound of aircraft then, and isn't there the possibility of the new 737 replacement around that time?
 
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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Wed Aug 01, 2007 2:39 pm

Well, it's only five years away and the 737 line is quite busy; I think they're pushing out about 14-15 a month.

What interests me particularly is that this pushes sales of the 737 close to the 7,000 mark and sales of all Boeing commercial aircraft v. close to the 15,000 mark.

Here are the figures I have:


Looking at the Boeing figures and totting them up (allowing also for recent additions, such as the recent Jet order for three 777-300ERs), we have:

6,773 737 (all series)
1,505 747 - (who brought it over the 1,500 mark?)
677 787 - (article says 634, but I thought the actual figure was much closer to the 700 mark?)
974 777
1,011 767
1,050 757
1,000 707 (likewise)
1,832 727
156 717

14,978 Total

Adding the 20 737s brings the 737 to 6,973 and if I could find the accurate number for 707s, it would probably bring it very close, if not slightly over!

[Edited 2007-08-01 07:42:36]
 
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Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:13 pm

Total production for all 707 airframes is 1,010. This includes all commercial & military orders, as well as the 720 model. The C-135 is designated the original 717, and has a smaller diameter fuselage as compare to the 707/720 model.
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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:21 pm

Quoting DL767captain (Reply 13):
It seems weird to me that they would place an order that would arrive in 2012 and 2013, that seems like so far away, 14 years! do they really expect to need that exact amound of aircraft then, and isn't there the possibility of the new 737 replacement around that time?

Make that 5-6 years bro... that does not look like a distant order to me  duck 
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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:00 pm

Quoting Yyz717 (Reply 7):
I disagree. WS has 6 738's and 3 more on order. Their heavier transcon routes YYZ-YYC/YVR could certainly support the 739ER. The question is whether they want a small specialty fleet of 739ER aircraft. Perhaps not, just yet.

By getting more 73Gs and not getting 739s, WS can up their transcon frequencies a lot easier out of YYZ and continue to add more transcons out of the smaller markets like YOW/YUL/YXU/YHZ, where the 738s (currently) aren't used much.

Quoting Cruiser (Reply 9):
I would certainly agree. AC can manage to fill a 763 or A333/A343 on these routes and with significant frequency. There is no reason that WJ couldn't do the same.

Yeah, but WS still don't have nearly the connectivity that AC has, especially at YVR, and even at YYZ. It's easy to fill a widebody when you have +30 connections at the YYZ end and another +20 at the YVR end vs. about 10 at the YYZ end for WS and maybe 3 at the YVR end.

Quoting Acey (Reply 5):
Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 3):
wonder if they can/will do Iceland or Russia?

Umm, why?

Well now that Canada-Iceland have open skies, including beyond 5th freedom rights, WS could theoretically set up a Canada-Europe connection hub at KEF, but FI appears to be in the early stages of doing this already. Maybe if WS ever get into interlining, they could feed a LCC FI hub at KEF with 73Gs/738s from Canadian markets where an FI 757 would be too big and hence have no need to buy 787s anytime soon. Just a thought.
 
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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:22 pm

wonder if they can/will do Iceland or Russia?

WTF??? Not exactly the first places I'd be thinking of sending planes.
 
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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:58 pm

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 14):
6,773 737 (all series)



Quoting Kaitak (Reply 14):
Adding the 20 737s brings the 737 to 6,973

Kaitak, I think you meant 6,793 not 6,973. Tho a 200 plane order would be nice  Wink  Big grin  yes 
Nice job on your display of aircraft orders tho  checkmark  I too thought the 787 was closer to 700 or over now??
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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:04 am

Interesting that Westjet continues to operate the 736 type. Apparently it seems to work for them. I wonder what it is that makes it such a viable type for this airline as opposed to others?
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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:24 am

Quoting Yyz717 (Reply 4):
They also seem to show no interest in adding a smaller aircraft such as the E190/170 to attack smaller markets. Yet, anyway.

Westjet looked at this years ago and I believe they decided on operating just one type as cost was lower, and with the increase in demand for air travel why buy smaller A/C? As apposed to buying the 377's?? It doesn't make sense to buy the Embraers at the moment.

Quoting DAYflyer (Reply 20):
Interesting that Westjet continues to operate the 736 type. Apparently it seems to work for them. I wonder what it is that makes it such a viable type for this airline as opposed to others?

Well they're not going to stop operating an A/C they have had in their fleet for only a couple of years now. WS has orders for A/C from I believe Singapore as well for a few 73G's... The 600's are good for short routes with more frequency and less flight loads... ie...YYC-YVR,YYC-YEG, YYC-YLW, YVR-YEG, YVR-YLW etc... With the higher frequency to these destinations it seems to fit their loads a bit better I believe. So less seats on each A/C and slightly lower operating cost is the reasoning for holding onto them. Apparantly they've started fitting the 600's with tv's now as well for all those of you that love to watch when you fly. Or get stuck with an aisle or middle and don't have the better scenery of the window to watch.
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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:33 am

The new 737NG's Westjet will be getting of the 737-700 are any of these gonna be the 737-700ER?

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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:43 am

Quoting DL767captain (Reply 13):
It seems weird to me that they would place an order that would arrive in 2012 and 2013, that seems like so far away, 14 years! do they really expect to need that exact amound of aircraft then, and isn't there the possibility of the new 737 replacement around that time?

What year do you live?

Is WestJet getting some of WN's deferrals? I am not sure of the time line?

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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:45 am

Quoting Fiedman (Reply 22):
The new 737NG's Westjet will be getting of the 737-700 are any of these gonna be the 737-700ER?

No. I suppose they could be converted if the need should arise, but as it stands they'll be base -700's or -800's.
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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:48 am

http://custom.marketwatch.com/custom...?dateid=39295.1669003704-902204554

WestJet to buy 20 Boeing 737 jets

4:00:20 AM ET 8/1/2007

TEL AVIV (MarketWatch) -- WestJet, (CA:WJA) the Calgary, Alberta, carrier, agreed to buy 20 Boeing Co. (BA) 737 jets. The Chicago aerospace giant is to deliver 14 of the aircraft in 2012 and six in 2013, WestJet said in a statement. The order is for the model 737-600; WestJet also took an option under which Boeing would convert the planes to the model 737-800.


One of these sources made a mistake. Is it the -600 or the -700 that was ordered?
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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:09 am

Quoting Loggat (Reply 25):
Is it the -600 or the -700 that was ordered?

It is definitely the -700, with the option for conversion to -800's.
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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:12 am

Hope I will see WJ order 900 series so I can grab my camera at tiny airport YXU to catch the 900 series. Beside this I have gotten 200, 600 and 700 at YXU. Too bad I haven't seen 800 here yet and hopefully for 900 as well.

Good to see Westjet grow!!
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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:18 am

Quoting Scotland1979 (Reply 27):
Hope I will see WJ order 900 series so I can grab my camera at tiny airport YXU to catch the 900 series. Beside this I have gotten 200, 600 and 700 at YXU. Too bad I haven't seen 800 here yet and hopefully for 900 as well.

That's just the thing. I think the -700 is a perfect fit for markets like YXU, YXX, YHM, and YQQ. I don't ever see WS operating the -900 into an airport like YXU until they can bulk up and get stronger in Ontario altogether.
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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:33 am

Quoting FlagshipAZ (Reply 1):
No -900s yet for WestJet, eh? Bummer. I was hoping they could have been the first to operate all 4 subtypes of the 737.



Quoting Yyz717 (Reply 4):
(or the 739ER yet).

It's Only a metter of time, IMO.

Quoting Yyz717 (Reply 7):
I disagree. WS has 6 738's and 3 more on order. Their heavier transcon routes YYZ-YYC/YVR could certainly support the 739ER. The question is whether they want a small specialty fleet of 739ER aircraft. Perhaps not, just yet.

Exactly. How else would AC be operating the 767 and A330 on these routes, especially YVR-YYZ. WS could easily fill 739s on that route.

Quoting ChiGB1973 (Reply 23):
What year do you live?

Looks like somewhere around the Windows 98 era.

Quoting Acey (Reply 26):
It is definitely the -700, with the option for conversion to -800's.

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Quoting Acey (Reply 28):

That's just the thing. I think the -700 is a perfect fit for markets like YXU, YXX, YHM, and YQQ.

The -700 was working wonders in YQQ. Now, they operate the -600s here with no TVs to YYC, or to YEG. Nobody has a reason to choose WS over AC with no little TVs.  Wink

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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:33 am

Quoting Acey (Reply 28):



Quoting WestJetYQQ (Reply 29):
The -700 was working wonders in YQQ. Now, they operate the -600s here with no TVs to YYC, or to YEG. Nobody has a reason to choose WS over AC with no little TVs.

Depends if you value you good service for your money or crap... Leather or cloth... Better planes or worse and let's not forget WS has one 600 converted to live satelite tv and is working on the rest. So I'd say until the conversion WS is still a better choice to me. I think most would agree with me, although there are the odd AC lovers and such, most of which are employees.
 
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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:50 am

Quoting WestJetYQQ (Reply 29):
Exactly. How else would AC be operating the 767 and A330 on these routes, especially YVR-YYZ.

AC's filling seats on the route because of a wealth of connections on both ends; from YYZ on to Europe and from YVR on to Asia. WS doesn't yet have that luxury, so they're in a different boat.
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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:20 pm

Exactly... That's where an interline would come in handy. But as Durfy said... That doesn't suit their business plan and there would be some conflicts if they were to partner up! So right now it's not the best idea.
 
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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Thu Aug 02, 2007 10:46 pm

Quoting Boeingluvr (Reply 32):
That doesn't suit their business plan and there would be some conflicts if they were to partner up! So right now it's not the best idea.

How many times in the past decade have WS changed their business plan? Too many to count.

Quoting Boeingluvr (Reply 30):
Depends if you value you good service for your money or crap... Leather or cloth...

Which airline was just named (yet again) the best airline in North America and I prefer cloth as many others do. Not to mention a much larger PTV screen on that 'evil' airline.

Quoting WestJetYQQ (Reply 29):
Exactly. How else would AC be operating the 767 and A330 on these routes, especially YVR-YYZ. WS could easily fill 739s on that route.

Evidently you didn't read previous posts. Have a look at what Acey said, which is the same thing I said.

Why would WS want to offer 2 739ER frequencies on say YYZ-YVR, when they could offer 3 73Gs frequencies with the same level of capacity...and then use the moderately larger 738s at peak times of the day?
 
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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:26 am

Quoting YOW (Reply 33):
Which airline was just named (yet again) the best airline in North America and I prefer cloth as many others do. Not to mention a much larger PTV screen on that 'evil' airline.

I can't tell you how many people I spoke to who called me a liar and wouldn't believe me... Remember with those awards that doesn't mean it's 100% true. Look at car companies... Each one advertises their own award they were given for this or that... One surveyer doesn't mean it's actually true. I definately do not recognize that and nobody I know does either... None of them even believe a survey came to that conclusion.

Quoting YOW (Reply 33):
How many times in the past decade have WS changed their business plan? Too many to count.

Lots but nothing this drastic. They've already commented on this... Right now it's not in the making.

Quoting YOW (Reply 33):
Evidently you didn't read previous posts. Have a look at what Acey said, which is the same thing I said.

Why would WS want to offer 2 739ER frequencies on say YYZ-YVR, when they could offer 3 73Gs frequencies with the same level of capacity...and then use the moderately larger 738s at peak times of the day?

Evidently you don't see how many flights a day WS has to YYZ from YVR and YYC and how close together they are. They could pull 3 NG's for the afternoon-evening and put a wide body in to fill those seats from all three flights, and free up the NG's for other routes. Not only that but if they did get wide bodies I'm sure they would be using them for the Carribean at first meaning that they could be thrown in trans con routes and then intl's on the rotation from YYC, YYZ, and YVR. WS has already 8 from YYC and has said they are increasing that service from YYC and YVR with more flights this winter.
 
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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:05 am

Yes The long waited expansion to Canadian cities from NAS-YYC and in 2008 NAS-YHZ. I am curious would they offer the 700 on both flights? And if they expand within The Caribbean they could convert the 700s to 700ERS. I doubt they would have a demand for widebodies to The Caribbean from YYC. Correct me if I am wrong
 
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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:11 am

Quoting YOW (Reply 33):
Not to mention a much larger PTV screen on that 'evil' airline.

What? That big blurry thing up at the front of each cabin section? I flew on an AC 763 on Tuesday, in seat 20C, second to the window. I could barely see the screen from there. I had to bend my sight around the heads of other passengers, not the mention the galley between the screen and I. Hardly likely to get a 'PTV', especially considering they don't even have those installed on a fifth of their fleet yet. I personally would rather the small ones that I can actually see.  Wink

Quoting Boeingluvr (Reply 30):
Depends if you value you good service for your money or crap... Leather or cloth... Better planes or worse and let's not forget WS has one 600 converted to live satelite tv and is working on the rest. So I'd say until the conversion WS is still a better choice to me. I think most would agree with me, although there are the odd AC lovers and such, most of which are employees.

Indeed, I prefer the leather; I prefer the service, and I prefer the airline. The TV's are just a bonus on cloudy day, or every day for a non-a.netter.

Quoting Acey (Reply 31):
AC's filling seats on the route because of a wealth of connections on both ends; from YYZ on to Europe and from YVR on to Asia. WS doesn't yet have that luxury, so they're in a different boat.

I see your point. Although, I still see the majority of passengers on that route to be flying between Vancouver and Toronto on business, and with AC's widebody frequencies of that route (Often only 30 minutes apart) I think WestJet could easily afford to implement this, not to mention WestJet's booking system can now get you to many international connections to other airlines from either end of the line.

Quoting YOW (Reply 33):
Evidently you didn't read previous posts. Have a look at what Acey said, which is the same thing I said.

Again, WestJet's booking system works wonderfully for international connections on other airlines at either end of that route.

Quoting Boeingluvr (Reply 34):

Evidently you don't see how many flights a day WS has to YYZ from YVR and YYC and how close together they are. They could pull 3 NG's for the afternoon-evening and put a wide body in to fill those seats from all three flights, and free up the NG's for other routes.

Not to mention that less frequencies, even on a larger aircraft saves a lot of fuel.

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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Fri Aug 03, 2007 5:20 am

Quoting WestJetYQQ (Reply 36):
Quoting YOW (Reply 33):
Evidently you didn't read previous posts. Have a look at what Acey said, which is the same thing I said.

Again, WestJet's booking system works wonderfully for international connections on other airlines at either end of that route.

What is your source of that information? It was my understanding that one of the primary reasons that WS has not yet got involved in extensive interline connections was that their current system could not handle it. And they just wrote off $30 million plus on a new system that was supposed to enhance these capabilities but didn't work properly, so they are now starting over after wasting a huge amount of money and time on the scrapped system.
 
sunrisevalley
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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Fri Aug 03, 2007 5:27 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 37):
And they just wrote off $30 million plus on a new system that was supposed to enhance these capabilities but didn't work properly, so they are now starting over after wasting a huge amount of money and time on the scrapped system.

This is what happens quite frequently when you try and reinvent the wheel!
 
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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:57 pm

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 37):
What is your source of that information? It was my understanding that one of the primary reasons that WS has not yet got involved in extensive interline connections was that their current system could not handle it. And they just wrote off $30 million plus on a new system that was supposed to enhance these capabilities but didn't work properly, so they are now starting over after wasting a huge amount of money and time on the scrapped system.

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Quoting SunriseValley (Reply 38):
This is what happens quite frequently when you try and reinvent the wheel!

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Quoting WestJetYQQ (Reply 36):
Although, I still see the majority of passengers on that route to be flying between Vancouver and Toronto on business, and with AC's widebody frequencies of that route (Often only 30 minutes apart) I think WestJet could easily afford to implement this, not to mention WestJet's booking system can now get you to many international connections to other airlines from either end of the line.

I enjoy reading thoughtful commentary,sorry,no checkmark for you.
 
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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:22 pm

Quoting WestJetYQQ (Reply 36):
with AC's widebody frequencies of that route (Often only 30 minutes apart)

Of the 20 (gasp) YYZ-YVR runs tomorrow, only 11 are widebodies. It drops to a more reasonable 14 runs for the winter sked.
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RE: WestJet Says In Deal To Buy 20 Boeing Aircraft

Fri Aug 03, 2007 5:57 pm

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 37):
Quoting WestJetYQQ (Reply 36):
Quoting YOW (Reply 33):
Evidently you didn't read previous posts. Have a look at what Acey said, which is the same thing I said.

Again, WestJet's booking system works wonderfully for international connections on other airlines at either end of that route.

What is your source of that information? It was my understanding that one of the primary reasons that WS has not yet got involved in extensive interline connections was that their current system could not handle it. And they just wrote off $30 million plus on a new system that was supposed to enhance these capabilities but didn't work properly, so they are now starting over after wasting a huge amount of money and time on the scrapped system.

Okay guys... Their current system is no good for the interline stuff... The new one they wrote off was supposed to be but didn't work now. I belive it wasn't too long ago maybe this spring that Durfy said that they are making plans to upgrade the current system in a deal signed till 2012 and the upgrade will allow them to do the interlining with ease.

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