Alitalia777
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United To STR

Sun Aug 05, 2007 6:14 am

I've heard that United will begin serving many new European destinations. Among my interest of those is STR. Does anyone know when this service will begin? What US destination will it be serving? What equipment is being used? What is the frequency? Thanks!

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dutchjet
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RE: United To STR

Sun Aug 05, 2007 6:24 am

News to me........and with what airplanes? My understanding is that UA is not looking at expanding on transatlantic routes and will focus on Asia. As for airplanes, UA has nothing on order at the moment and its my understanding that their longhaul fleet is currently being used to its limit. Where did you hear this rumor?

By the way, there is a very credible rumor that STR is on CO's short list of possible new European destinations...if that service is launched, it would be EWR-STR with a 752 operating daily in the summer and 5X per week in the winter.
 
Alitalia777
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RE: United To STR

Sun Aug 05, 2007 6:49 am

This is something that I received from United regarding my Mileage Plus summary.

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RE: United To STR

Sun Aug 05, 2007 6:52 am

Quoting Alitalia777 (Reply 2):
This is something that I received from United regarding my Mileage Plus summary.

Really, could it have something to do with service offered by LH with whom UA works very closely on transatlantic services? Otherwise, I really have no idea.
 
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RE: United To STR

Sun Aug 05, 2007 7:35 am

UA codeshares with at least LH and SK into STR, so maybe this is an expansion of Star codeshares? I doubt UA would dedicate even a 767-300ER to STR given the other options.
 
Alitalia777
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RE: United To STR

Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:24 pm

Does/Is LH offering direct service to the US from STR? If so, to where? What is the aircraft, and what is the frequency?

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LHUSA
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RE: United To STR

Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:41 pm

Nope, LH does not fly across the pond from STR. Only DL offers flights across the Atlantic from ATL. I don't really see UA starting any service to STR. If anyone would, I would expect CO with a 757 (although, aren't there runway/terrain problems at STR?) or LH offering service to DTW on a BBJ.
 
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RE: United To STR

Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:42 pm

it prob had to do with hte new UA vacations destinations, via codeshares...
 
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RE: United To STR

Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:05 pm

Quoting LH417AF025 (Reply 7):
it prob had to do with hte new UA vacations destinations, via codeshares...

That's exactly it! Does this just mean that they are offering vacations to this destination, but not actually direct flights?

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RE: United To STR

Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:52 pm

Quoting Alitalia777 (Reply 8):

That's exactly it! Does this just mean that they are offering vacations to this destination, but not actually direct flights?

-Alitalia777

Key word: codeshares. UA and LH work very closely on transatlantic service.
 
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RE: United To STR

Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:10 am

I have heard bits and pieces about this recently from contacts in Germany. I was hoping though that it would be TXL-IAD instead. TXL-IAD is a glaring ommission in UAs strategy for capital to capital service.

[Edited 2007-08-05 18:11:24]
 
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RE: United To STR

Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:17 am

Quoting IADLHR (Reply 10):
I have heard bits and pieces about this recently from contacts in Germany. I was hoping though that it would be TXL-IAD instead. TXL-IAD is a glaring ommission in UAs strategy for capital to capital service.

What could United Airlines serve it with, seeing as that its fleet for the most part is maxed out..

I have a feeling that a route such as IAD-DME with a 767-300 would be higher yielding and of higher demand than TXL..

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RE: United To STR

Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:54 am

Quoting IADLHR (Reply 10):
I have heard bits and pieces about this recently from contacts in Germany. I was hoping though that it would be TXL-IAD instead. TXL-IAD is a glaring ommission in UAs strategy for capital to capital service.

[Edited 2007-08-05 18:11:24]

Consider that LH flew IAD-TXL a few years back with an A343.......wrong plane, wrong route, impossible yields and LH quickly cut the route. Its a money loser. IAD-TXL is one of those routes that sounds good and is very promising ""on paper"", but just doesnt work in the real world. Odd, isnt it?

[Edited 2007-08-05 18:54:54]
 
usa4624
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RE: United To STR

Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:45 pm

Back in 2001, United had an DUS - IAD - ORD flight. It was cut back to DUS - IAD in 2002, and eliminated later the same year. When I flew this route, it was a 767-300.

White IAD - DUS seemed unusual, IAD - STR makes a little more sense.

Personally, I wouldn't mind a direct US to STR connection other than Delta's, but that's another story.
 
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RE: United To STR

Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:47 pm

Quoting LHUSA (Reply 6):
If anyone would, I would expect CO with a 757 (although, aren't there runway/terrain problems at STR?)

According to Google Earth, the runway is over 10,000 feet and the terrain slopes down to the east. To the west about 2.75 miles west, the height is about 350 higher than the runway. Is this a problem or are there other obsticles other than terrain to the east of west of the airport?

There appears to be a 1,000 foot displaced threshold on the west end of the runway.

FYI, EWR-STR is only 44 miles shorter than EWR-TXL.

[Edited 2007-08-06 06:48:07]
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RE: United To STR

Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:38 pm

UA are unlikely to open up any new routes in the forseeable future to Europe save for DEN - LHR, firstly because they see more demand elswhere such as Asia, secondly they simply dont have the metal to undertake any new routes and lastly if the were tp open up a new route it will more than likely be to a Star Hub in Europe where they can utilize the feed.