GneissGuy
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SQ 777s Clipped Wings At Changi

Sun Aug 05, 2007 6:20 pm

2 SQ 777s hit each other on the wings whilst taxiing in Changi on Saturday. Both planes suffered minor damage and passengers were put on other planes to Rome and Copenhagen.

See link: http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stori...aporelocalnews/view/292335/1/.html
 
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RE: SQ 777s Clipped Wings At Changi

Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:23 pm

Bugger. How long would an accident such as this keep the planes out of service? Anyone?
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CXfirst
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RE: SQ 777s Clipped Wings At Changi

Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:34 pm

isn't Rome operated by the 777-300ER, must suck to have that plane damaged already.

Funny that, I just arrived from Copenhagen with SQ.

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RE: SQ 777s Clipped Wings At Changi

Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:20 pm

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 2):
isn't Rome operated by the 777-300ER, must

It is. Raked wingtip and all.

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 2):
Funny that, I just arrived from Copenhagen with SQ.

I was in Changi this past Monday and while taxiing on a 773, I though we came might close to clipping wings with another SQ 777. Maybe I thought about it too soon.
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RE: SQ 777s Clipped Wings At Changi

Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:56 pm

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 2):
isn't Rome operated by the 777-300ER, must suck to have that plane damaged already.

They have had a number of their new aircraft in maintenance due to events on the ground, they have managed to get a few of them off the taxiways at SIN, I think one of them might have also hit a light pole during ground manoeuvring.

Not to say that any airline is immune from these sort of events, just that most of them are that minor they do not make the news.
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RE: SQ 777s Clipped Wings At Changi

Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:11 pm

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 2):
isn't Rome operated by the 777-300ER, must suck to have that plane damaged already.

Funny that, I just arrived from Copenhagen with SQ.



Quoting Norcal773 (Reply 3):
It is. Raked wingtip and all.

Rome is still operated with the 777-200ER aircraft. You're probably thinking of Milan which is operated with the 777-300ER on the days Rome flights are not operating.

I'm going for a bike ride around Changi here later (does anyone else ever ride the road parallel to the Center runway? Great place to cycle!), will try to spot the aircraft at the SIA Engineering facilities if i can.
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RE: SQ 777s Clipped Wings At Changi

Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:27 pm

Hey SQ 452,

I ride regularly on Changi Coast Road, in fact was just there today doing some laps (trying to get back into shape!). Also always stop at the fence near the threshold to watch the planes come and go before the home stretch.

Planes involved are 9V-SVG operating as SQ 366 SIN-FCO, and 9V-SVN operating as SQ 352 SIN-CPH. Both are 777-200ER's powered by Trent 892's.

Anyhow, it's a crying shame that this happened. You can be sure that an investigation has already begun and would involve the ground controller, the apron staff and the pilots.
 
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RE: SQ 777s Clipped Wings At Changi

Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:25 am

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 2):
Funny that, I just arrived from Copenhagen with SQ.

And I was originally scheduled on the flight TO Copenhagen, but had to reschedule earlier this week.

Looking at http://cph.dk arrivals, it looks like the arrival in CPH yesterday was about 2-1/2 hr delayed. (usually SQ351/2 is very punctual)
 
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RE: SQ 777s Clipped Wings At Changi

Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:19 am

Quoting Andrew (Reply 6):
Hey SQ 452,

I ride regularly on Changi Coast Road, in fact was just there today doing some laps (trying to get back into shape!). Also always stop at the fence near the threshold to watch the planes come and go before the home stretch.

Planes involved are 9V-SVG operating as SQ 366 SIN-FCO, and 9V-SVN operating as SQ 352 SIN-CPH. Both are 777-200ER's powered by Trent 892's.

Anyhow, it's a crying shame that this happened. You can be sure that an investigation has already begun and would involve the ground controller, the apron staff and the pilots.

Oh no kidding, it's a damn good ride on Changi Coast road isn't it? How is riding during the day on that road? Night time is when i like to ride, never any traffic and hardly any cars to deal with. You get Europe departures in the evening and riding when they are using the center runway the noise is exhilarating when they take off. I usually stop at the threshold too before turning around for the home stretch, or continuing to the East Coast bike trail.

As to seeing any of the planes involved, couldn't see anything during the ride (my guess is they are already in the SIA Engineering hangars 1 and 2 on the northern section of the airport. I did however see the A345 on night time training, it did a number of departures/landings (not touch and gos) on the Center runway. Definitely not a scheduled flight as the other 4 A345's are enroute to/from LAX and EWR during that time of night anyway.
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RE: SQ 777s Clipped Wings At Changi

Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:37 am

Maybe SQ should look into the folding wing concept for the triple 7?

On that note, when will these birds be operational again?
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RE: SQ 777s Clipped Wings At Changi

Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:46 am

Quoting JakeOrion (Reply 9):
Maybe SQ should look into the folding wing concept for the triple 7?

On that note, when will these birds be operational again?

One would think so, but there is plenty of "floor space" on the apron at Changi. This was a goof up on either ground control, the apron manager, or the ground/tow staff, not necessarily a lack of space. Heck, the airport is A380 ready...plenty of room to 'move around' on the apron.

I think SQ did consider the folding wings at one point way back when but decided against it (can anyone confirm this?)

The planes shouldn't be out of commission too long, depending on how the damage was, I'm guessing a couple weeks, maybe less.
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RE: SQ 777s Clipped Wings At Changi

Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:56 am

Shoudlnt take more than a couple of weeks if it was just a minor clipping...

SQ really has a good number of spares allowing a great operational stability allowing quick re-scheduling after planes go tech.

Good work SQ 2 1/2 hours is not a bad delay in my opinion given the circumstances

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RE: SQ 777s Clipped Wings At Changi

Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:08 pm

Well that explain the late arrival into Copenhagen Saturday morning and my late departure from CPH to SIN. No explanation was given at CPH about the mishap.
 
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RE: SQ 777s Clipped Wings At Changi

Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:42 pm

Quoting Norcal773 (Reply 3):
Raked wingtip and all.

Is it possible for these aircraft to fly without the raked tip attached? I know aircraft (A330, 744) with winglets can if need be.

Quoting Qantas744ER (Reply 11):
Shoudlnt take more than a couple of weeks if it was just a minor clipping...

I'm surprised it would take so long. Maybe just an over-night job? Take the damaged tip of and replace with a new one (if they carry them as spares of course).
 
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RE: SQ 777s Clipped Wings At Changi

Mon Aug 06, 2007 5:29 pm

Quoting SQ452 (Reply 5):
Rome is still operated with the 777-200ER aircraft. You're probably thinking of Milan which is operated with the 777-300ER on the days Rome flights are not operating.

correct, thanks for the correction. Good that it isn't the 777-300ER

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RE: SQ 777s Clipped Wings At Changi

Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:10 am

Is there any photos?

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RE: SQ 777s Clipped Wings At Changi

Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:15 am

But i am sure it would still disrupt the rotation of the the aircrafts especially if 2 of them are involved.The spare aircrafts would still be needed the next morning during th rush hour.If the damage can be repaired overnight then it wouldnt be much of a problem...but a few weeks would certainly affect the fleet especially now that SQ is facing an aircraft shortage.I wonder if any other flights using the 200ER are affected operationally wise.
 
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RE: SQ 777s Clipped Wings At Changi

Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:47 am

Quoting Qantas744ER (Reply 11):
SQ really has a good number of spares allowing a great operational stability allowing quick re-scheduling after planes go tech.

Having 68 777s in the fleet makes it affordable to stock ample and diverse spare parts.

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