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KLM 767, What Routes

Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:42 am

I used to fly KLM a lot between DC and Dubai, the typical NW DC-10 then connect to a KL 767, now i see that KLM has replaced the IAD flight with either a 777 or an A330, then the Dubai route has been replaced by a 777. does KLM has a lot of 767's left? and if so, what are their routes?

thanks for the responses in advance.
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RE: KLM 767, What Routes

Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:45 am

Afraid that KLM has no 767s left any more, they have been completely replaced by the A332.


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RE: KLM 767, What Routes

Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:55 am

The 767s were retired since March and I can only recall some cities that they used to serve from AMS:

LHR
IAD
ATL
MIA (KL axed MIA years ago, though)
CCS
YVR
IAH
MEM (now flown by a NW A332)
Almaty

beyond that I'm drawing a blank
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RE: KLM 767, What Routes

Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:02 am

WOW! didnt know they are already out.

Dubai, Abu Dhabi and Bahrain were always served by klm 767.
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RE: KLM 767, What Routes

Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:03 am

They also flew them to JFK, SFO, YUL, and EWR. It's a shame, they wore the KL livery very well.
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RE: KLM 767, What Routes

Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:40 am

Quoting Flynavy (Reply 4):
They also flew them to JFK, SFO, YUL, and EWR.

You can add DAR and JRO.
 
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RE: KLM 767, What Routes

Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:28 pm

Don't forget the Almaty flight, always operated with 767 equipment until March 2007...
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RE: KLM 767, What Routes

Mon Aug 06, 2007 5:13 pm

And SVO in the old days.... I took them often on that route.
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RE: KLM 767, What Routes

Mon Aug 06, 2007 7:11 pm

Quoting Flynavy (Reply 4):
and EWR

Yes I remember seeing a KLM 767 in EWR back in 2001 (before 9-11), it used to occupy its gate at the Northwest Concourse.

That's right. KLM has no more 767's, neither does Air France. Some of the KLM 767's went to Aeroflot, Malev picked up one or two, that's all as far as I know where the KLM 767's went.

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RE: KLM 767, What Routes

Mon Aug 06, 2007 7:38 pm

As mentioned above, the B763ERs were deployed network wide and over the years many destinations have seen the aircraft: YUL, YVR, JFK, EWR, IAD, ATL, MEM, MIA (now closed), IAH, SFO, CCS, LOS, ABV, KAN, LFW (now closed), DLA (now closed), ABJ (now closed), ACC, DAR, JRO, NBO, CAI, DXB, AUH, DMM, BAH, DOH, KWI, THR, ALA, DEL, to name just a few. The aircraft was also deployed regularly in the European network, including to LHR, SVO, LIS and OPO and was used very regularly for high density substitutions within Europe. The last KLM B763ER flight took place on March 03 0f this year, as KL651/652 AMS IAD AMS.
 
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RE: KLM 767, What Routes

Mon Aug 06, 2007 7:57 pm

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Freetown
Monrovia
Baku
Entebbe
Karthoum
Addes Abeba
 
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RE: KLM 767, What Routes

Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:23 pm

And a few others which came to mind:

Amman
Damascus
Tel Aviv
Jeddah
Sana'a
Muscat
Calgary

I believe Milan Linate used to see regular 767 service as well.
 
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RE: KLM 767, What Routes

Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:50 am

Quoting LHboyatDTW (Reply 2):
MEM (now flown by a NW A332)

AMS-MEM used to be operated by a NW DC-10 and is now done by a NW A330. When did KLM's 763s do the route?

Quoting LHboyatDTW (Reply 2):
YVR

IIRC AMS-YVR was always and still is done by a MD-11.
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RE: KLM 767, What Routes

Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:52 am

Quoting DIJKKIJK (Reply 12):
IIRC AMS-YVR was always and still is done by a MD-11.

Oh yeah? :-P


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RE: KLM 767, What Routes

Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:54 am

Quoting DIJKKIJK (Reply 12):
Quoting LHboyatDTW (Reply 2):
MEM (now flown by a NW A332)

AMS-MEM used to be operated by a NW DC-10 and is now done by a NW A330. When did KLM's 763s do the route?

Quoting LHboyatDTW (Reply 2):
YVR

IIRC AMS-YVR was always and still is done by a MD-11.

KLM started the MEM route in 1994 or 1995 IIRC, it was usually served with a MD11 in summers and a 767 in winters. NW took the route over in (?) 2000 or thereabouts. Vancouver has been served by different types including 767, it is now served with a A332.
 
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RE: KLM 767, What Routes

Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:11 am

Quoting DIJKKIJK (Reply 12):
When did KLM's 763s do the route?

In September 1998 I flew to MEM on KL625, operated with a MD11 ("Maria Montessori"). May 2003 I went to MEM again, also flight KL625, at that time operated with a B767-300.

Quoting DIJKKIJK (Reply 12):
AMS-YVR was always and still is done by a MD-11.

May 2006 I took KL681 to YVR, a MD11 ("Ingrid Bergmann"). A few months later, in september, I took KL681 again, but now it was an A330 ("Parliament Square, EDI"). Before KL operated the A330, it was a B767-300.

Currently the route is operated with a MD11.

[Edited 2007-08-06 19:12:30]
 
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RE: KLM 767, What Routes

Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:30 am

Quoting American 767 (Reply 8):
Some of the KLM 767's went to Aeroflot, Malev picked up one or two, that's all as far as I know where the KLM 767's went.

Add:

Zoom Airlines
North American Airlines
NEOS
PrivatAir
Ethiopian Airlines
Air Astana

then we've all  Wink
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RE: KLM 767, What Routes

Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:56 am

i am surprised they got rid of them before the MD-11's. or did they already stop operating those?
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RE: KLM 767, What Routes

Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:02 am

Quoting HAMAD (Reply 17):
did they already stop operating those?

No, KL is even refurbushing the MD11 fleet (was REALLY necessary!). The MD11s get the same WBC seat as the B777/A330 (don't know if that's an real improvement....). Also the nice AVOD will be installed in the MD11, also in m-class. KL will operate the MD11 until at least 2012 (that seems far away in the future, but it's only 5 years....)
 
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RE: KLM 767, What Routes

Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:11 am

They were used also within Europe:

AMS-LHR
AMS-FAO
AMS-LIS
AMS-MXP
AMS-FCO
AMS-ZRH
AMS-SVO


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RE: KLM 767, What Routes

Tue Aug 07, 2007 5:32 am

Also MUC and CPH occasionally received KL767.

[Edited 2007-08-06 22:42:44]