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Emirates To US?

Mon Aug 14, 2000 5:03 am

Does anyone know why Emirates does not fly to the US? Not even to New York! Is this because of traffic or government restrictions, or do they not want to? Can't their 777s fly between Dubai & New York nonstop?


 
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RE: Emirates To US?

Mon Aug 14, 2000 5:23 am

I am going to guess that Emirates will fly to EWR one they begin their planned alliance with Continental. The 777 can make it to Newark from Dubai, because MAS 777s make the trip a few times a week.
 
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RE: Emirates To US?

Mon Aug 14, 2000 5:26 am

I don't really know, but it's probably because their a/c are pretty tied up with the present route network. They need a few more planes methinks.
 
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RE: Emirates To US?

Mon Aug 14, 2000 6:04 am

Emirates will fly to the US from 2002/3 on, when their new A340-500's will be delivered.
I think they already got the traffic rights for JFK, ORD and LAX.

Regards,
the WorldTraveller
 
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RE: Emirates To US?

Mon Aug 14, 2000 6:26 am

I am sure Emirate Airlines will be expanding soon to the U.S and to Canada. Emirate Airlines has been ordering many aircraft lately including the Airbus A340-500 and Boeing 777-200 ER. Emirate Airlines will probally fly to Los Angeles, Detroit and New York and maybe Washington.

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777gk

Mon Aug 14, 2000 9:53 am

Do you have any more information on this planned alliance between Continental and Emirates?

I thought Emirates code-shared on a limited basis with United from LHR to the Gulf?

Their new Skywards frequent flyer program features airline partners from many different alliances:

Sri Lankan - Emirates has invested heavily in them.
British Airways - oneworld.
United Airlines - Star Alliance.
Continental Airlines - alliance-less - "Wings"?
South African Airways - alliance-less - close to Qualiflyer - SR is in talks to increase its 25%? stake in SAA, but the carrier also code-shares with DL.
 
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RE: Emirates To US?

Mon Aug 14, 2000 10:15 am

I think Emirates is takings its time right now. I don't think they want a disaster like the Gulfair BAH-JFK route.
 
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RE: Nickofatlanta

Mon Aug 14, 2000 10:35 am

Continental is unofficially a member of the Wings alliance. Wings has not formally been launched yet, although some airlines talk about themselves being members.

Continental is planning an alliance with Emirates. Here are the details from

Emirates () is the international airline of the United Arab Emirates. In April 1998, Emirates acquired a stake in Air Lanka. They have won a number of prestigious awards including: Airline of the Year for 94, 98, 99, and 00 by Executive Travel and OAG Travel Awards; Best Airline to the Middle East for eleven years running since 1988 by Air Cargo News and many passenger service awards given by Air Transport World. Emirates operates services to 48 destinations in 37 countries in the Middle East, Europe, Africa, West Asia, the Indian Subcontinent, the Pacific Rim, and Australia. In addition, Emirates serves numerous cargo destinations around the world.

Scope of Cooperation
Continental and Emirates recently announced that they will expand their cooperative marketing relationship to include enhanced schedule coordination, codesharing on each others' flights, and reciprocal frequent flyer program participation. Once government approval has been obtained, CO will display its CO designator on Emirates' flights between London/ Gatwick (LGW) and Dubai, United Arab Emirates (DXB). Likewise, Emirates will display its EK designator on Continental's flights between London/ Gatwick and both Houston and New York/ Newark.

Frequent Flyer Benefits
Continental OnePass customers will be able to earn OnePass miles anywhere on Emirates effective August 1, 2000. Frequent flyer redemptions will be announced at a later date.

Airport Lounge Information
Continental Presidents Club and BusinessFirst customers will have access to Emirates' lounges in London/ Gatwick and Dubai when travelling on an Emirates flight.

Services
Emirates operates a fleet of modern Airbus A310-300s, A300-600Rs, A330-200s, and Boeing 777-200s and 777-300s. As an innovator in the airline industry, Emirates became the first airline to provide a personal video system in every seat in all classes of service. Every aircraft is also equipped with inflight telephone and fax services. Professional, friendly, multi-lingual cabin crew members encompass over 75 nationalities.


 
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RE: Emirates To US?

Mon Aug 14, 2000 10:38 am

Hmm... OAG Airline of the Year in 94,98,99,00? Sounds like a bit of nepotism going on over there, huh?
 
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RE: Emirates To US?

Mon Aug 14, 2000 10:53 am

One thing I have noticed is that EK is not planning to fly from Dubai to DTW. That is quite disappointing because a DUB-DTW route could be extremely popular given the fact that there is a very substantial (and rich) Arab-American community in the Detroit, MI area and would gladly welcome direct service to Dubai for connections to other points in the Middle East, avoiding the need to change planes at LHR/LGW, FRA, CDG, ZRH, and so on.
 
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RE: Emirates To US?

Mon Aug 14, 2000 12:47 pm

Emirates plans to operate to the US from October 2002. Initial operations will commence into JFK using the Airbus A340-500. Thereafter, as more aircraft are delivered new routes will be added eg. LAX, ORD, SFO, YYZ, ATL, IAH and frequencies increased.

EK doesn't currently fly to the US because it doesn't have the right aircraft. Sure, the B777-200ER can make it but not with a full pax and cargo payload. The latter is a very important part of Emirates' business hence they are unlikely to just fly to the US unless they can take advantage of both the pax and cargo market. The A345 will be able to address this. Furthermore, EK mgt. commented that the 777 is a little too big for pax purposes for the US. The A330-200 is the right size but lacks the range (it can only make it as far as Keflavik with a full payload).

Finally given Gulf Air's failure to the US, Emirates is not rushing into the market until it has the right plane with the right economics and the appropriate feeder traffic and of course the cargo business.

Rgds,
Mo.
 
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RE: Emirates To US?

Mon Aug 14, 2000 12:50 pm


Why did Gulfair's American flights fail?
 
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RE: Emirates To US?

Mon Aug 14, 2000 3:40 pm

Mohd is right, those are the exact reasons to why Emirates isn't in the US now, however, in 2002 they plan on flying to JFK nonstop using A340-500, twice daily. I also found out that Emirates can't fly to the US unless they change their uniforms, US law requires the cabin crew's clothes to be 100% unflammable, while Emirates Airlines cabin crew's clothes aren't so.

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RE: Emirates To US?

Mon Aug 14, 2000 4:57 pm

what Mohammed and Marco said was 100% correct but dont u think .........gulf air sux ?!? what emirates said last time in a conference is that it will use A3XX in 2006
instead of A345 . plus , they might change the
B777-300 to London HEATHROW into A3XX ......i think it's a waste......
plus , they will be going to JFK and Los Angeles for sure.... i dont whether they will also add one of the canadian airports to their network ............
yes , its true , Emirates won so many awards in 94 , 97 , 98 , 99 , 00 , voted by british and eurpoen travellers ........

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