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Did ACA Get A New 772 Yesterday?

Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:47 pm

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RE: Did ACA Get A New 772 Yesterday?

Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:17 pm

It looks like we did. Fin 702 shows arriving as AC7077-07 yesterday.
 
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RE: Did ACA Get A New 772 Yesterday?

Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:18 pm

That would be fin 702 I believe, Air Canada's 2nd 777-200LR.

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RE: Did ACA Get A New 772 Yesterday?

Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:39 pm

Can't wait to see it at YYZ. I have seen all of the 77W and the 77L in service already although still haven't flown on one yet. My timings have been too tight to rearrange my schedule to accomodate it so far.
 
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RE: Did ACA Get A New 772 Yesterday?

Wed Aug 08, 2007 11:17 pm

I was wondering why Atlantic Coast Airlines (ACA) (a Delta Connection Carrier) would be buying a widebody aircraft.

It make much more sense for AC.
 
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RE: Did ACA Get A New 772 Yesterday?

Thu Aug 09, 2007 12:33 am

Geez, and I thought we were talking about Acapulco, ACA Iata code. I was actually wondering who would
be flying a B777 down there.
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RE: Did ACA Get A New 772 Yesterday?

Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:49 am

Quoting GARUDAROD (Reply 5):
Geez, and I thought we were talking about Acapulco, ACA Iata code. I was actually wondering who would
be flying a B777 down there.

 hyper  Me too!

No schedule flights, but AM sent its first 777 to ACA shortly after arriving from Everett with journalists, tour operators and the media to promote the new aircraft back in 03/2006.

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RE: Did ACA Get A New 772 Yesterday?

Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:59 am

Yes, C-FIUF.

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RE: Did ACA Get A New 772 Yesterday?

Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:28 am

Nice to see AC finally updated their 777 fleet info...  yawn 

http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/fleet/index.html#current

I assuming these are the current route assignments?

YYZ-LHR 77W
YYZ-FRA 77W
YYZ-NRT 77W
YYZ-HKG 77L
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RE: Did ACA Get A New 772 Yesterday?

Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:29 am

She took long enough...was suposed to be here in the latter part of July. Fin 703 will come in November, and that will be the last AC 777 delivery until January.
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RE: Did ACA Get A New 772 Yesterday?

Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:18 am

So can we put AC vs. ACA in the thread title. ACA does not exist anymore.
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RE: Did ACA Get A New 772 Yesterday?

Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:40 am

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 10):
So can we put AC vs. ACA in the thread title. ACA does not exist anymore.

ACA is the official 3-letter identifier for Air Canada, so there is no good reason to change it to a 2-letter one, unless of course you are one of the minority of people that can't be bothered educating yourself with the 3-letter airline codes.  duck 

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RE: Did ACA Get A New 772 Yesterday?

Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:37 am

Quoting RobK (Reply 11):
ACA is the official 3-letter identifier for Air Canada, so there is no good reason to change it to a 2-letter one, unless of course you are one of the minority of people that can't be bothered educating yourself with the 3-letter airline codes.

The only codes recognised by A.net mouse over are 2-letter codes for airlines and 3-letter airport codes. Therefore ACA is Acapulco. You, as a 3-year A.net member should have educated yourself to use the 2-letter airline codes by now.
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RE: Did ACA Get A New 772 Yesterday?

Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:47 am

Quoting Olympus69 (Reply 12):
You, as a 3-year A.net member should have educated yourself to use the 2-letter airline codes by now.

I am fully educated with both IATA and ICAO airline identifiers thank you, unlike others that demand they be changed to suit their own agenda/lack of education!

Additionally, as the database editor yourself, wouldn't ones time be better spent adding the ICAO codes to the "mouse over" facility, rather than spending that time reprimanding the forum members?

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RE: Did ACA Get A New 772 Yesterday?

Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:23 am

Quoting Olympus69 (Reply 12):
The only codes recognised by A.net mouse over are 2-letter codes for airlines and 3-letter airport codes.

They're also the codes most people are most familiar with since they're the only codes used in reservations, ticketing, on baggage tags etc. Only people directly involved in technical issues like ATC or operations have much familiarity with the ICAO 3-letter airline and 4-letter airport codes. The shorter codes also have the benefit of brevity.
 
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RE: Did ACA Get A New 772 Yesterday?

Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:27 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 14):
"Only" people directly involved in technical issues like ATC or operations have much familiarity with the ICAO 3-letter airline and 4-letter airport codes.

Which I think you'll find, considering that this is an aviation site, is one hell of a lot of people !

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RE: Did ACA Get A New 772 Yesterday?

Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:36 am

Quoting RobK (Reply 15):
Which I think you'll find, considering that this is an aviation site, is one hell of a lot of people !

I politely disagree!
 
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RE: Did ACA Get A New 772 Yesterday?

Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:37 am

Settle down you nerds. It's 2 letters vs. 3 letters and I'm sure we'll all still be alive in the morning whether it gets changed or not.

Quoting DLPMMM (Reply 4):
I was wondering why Atlantic Coast Airlines (ACA) (a Delta Connection Carrier) would be buying a widebody aircraft.

Did they hire Leo Mullin out of retirement? That would explain it.  Wink
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Fly747
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RE: Did ACA Get A New 772 Yesterday?

Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:40 am

Jeez, what's the big deal he used the 3 letter code? What codes do you use when searching for a flight on Flightaware???
Same difference...

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RE: Did ACA Get A New 772 Yesterday?

Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:45 am

Quoting Fly747 (Reply 18):
Jeez, what's the big deal he used the 3 letter code? What codes do you use when searching for a flight on Flightaware???
Same difference...

 yes  I couldn't agree more.

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RE: Did ACA Get A New 772 Yesterday?

Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:30 am

Next time on Air Canada mainline check your boarding pass. It will indicate ACA.
For Jazz flights it will indicate ACJ.
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RE: Did ACA Get A New 772 Yesterday?

Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:33 am

I guess it's ok to use the three letter codes when refering to DAL, AMR, UAL....
ACA is the official identifier of AC so get over it!
In the mean time, nice to see the 777's coming strong. I wonder when we will see the first one in YYT/CYYT on a diversion?
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RE: Did ACA Get A New 772 Yesterday?

Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:52 am

Quoting AC_B777 (Reply 21):
DAL, AMR, UAL

DAL is somewhat okay because it's in acronym for the official name of the company, Delta Air Lines. Concerning AA, I rarely see them referred to as AMR, but perhaps it's because AA is a wholly owned subsidiary of the AMR Corporation. UAL, again: United Air Lines, Inc.
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RE: Did ACA Get A New 772 Yesterday?

Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:12 am

Quoting RobK (Reply 15):
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 14):
"Only" people directly involved in technical issues like ATC or operations have much familiarity with the ICAO 3-letter airline and 4-letter airport codes.

Which I think you'll find, considering that this is an aviation site, is one hell of a lot of people !

I agree but I generally find most of the technical people are postiing in the Tech/Ops forum, while this forum tends to get more people talking about service, inflight products, competitive issues etc. Obviously you can't please everyone, but on the whole I think the 3-letter airport and 2-letter airline codes are more familiar. I would be willing to bet that a much higher percentage of people, even A.net users, would be able to identify LHR, AMS, FRA and CDG without looking them up, compared to EGLL, EHAM, EDDF and LFPG.
 
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RE: Did ACA Get A New 772 Yesterday?

Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:53 am

And ACJ used to be Atlantic Coast Jet. So lets use the 2 letter identifier to make it easier for most. By the way I am very educated and have been in the Airline industry for 12 years.
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RE: Did ACA Get A New 772 Yesterday?

Thu Aug 09, 2007 12:57 pm

A bit out of topic, since we now seem to be arguing about ICAO and IATA codes... but...

Quoting Bmacleod (Reply 8):

YYZ-LHR 77W
YYZ-FRA 77W
YYZ-NRT 77W
YYZ-HKG 77L

I've seen the 77W listed for AC870 YUL-CDG in early september... I may well fly on it !  crossfingers   crossfingers   pray   pray   pray 
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RE: Did ACA Get A New 772 Yesterday?

Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:45 pm

Quoting Aircellist (Reply 25):
I've seen the 77W listed for AC870 YUL-CDG in early september... I may well fly on it !

Yup, you're going to steal her away from the YYC folks, with whom she was running 850/851 to LHR. Calgary spotters are certainly enjoying two daily Boeing 777's. Looks like Friday, September 7th is the changeover day.
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RE: Did ACA Get A New 772 Yesterday?

Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:03 am

Quoting RobK (Reply 13):
Additionally, as the database editor yourself, wouldn't ones time be better spent adding the ICAO codes to the "mouse over" facility, rather than spending that time reprimanding the forum members?

I agree. It annoys me sometimes when mousing over gives no result. Perhaps the major changes coming up in Airliners.net will mean that more time will become available for making improvements to features of this kind.. Incidentally, I am only involved with corrections to the photo database in a very minor way.
 
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RE: Did ACA Get A New 772 Yesterday?

Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:13 am

Quoting Olympus69 (Reply 27):
I agree. It annoys me sometimes when mousing over gives no result. Perhaps the major changes coming up in Airliners.net will mean that more time will become available for making improvements to features of this kind.. Incidentally, I am only involved with corrections to the photo database in a very minor way.

Actually, thinking about it more logically, it would probably cause more confusion than solve as with the present system, mousing-over ACA should show up Acapulco airport, so what would happen if 3-letter airline codes were added? It wouldn't know whether to show Acapulco or Air Canada !!

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RE: Did ACA Get A New 772 Yesterday?

Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:30 am

Quoting Bmacleod (Reply 8):
Nice to see AC finally updated their 777 fleet info...

I wonder why the 77W illustration on the AC fleet page has the nose gear doors open!
 
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RE: Did ACA Get A New 772 Yesterday?

Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:05 am

Quoting RobK (Reply 28):
Actually, thinking about it more logically, it would probably cause more confusion than solve as with the present system, mousing-over ACA should show up Acapulco airport, so what would happen if 3-letter airline codes were added? It wouldn't know whether to show Acapulco or Air Canada !!

Agreed! Most rookie(average)aviation/airline enthusiasts(like myself)will likely be more familiar with the IATA codes,as they are in general use and commonly shown on airline itineraries/ticket receipts etc,. True hard-core members tend to learn and become more familiar with the ICAO codes as found on flight tracking software,etc,. I should think that since english is used by ATC globally to avoid confusion,we should apply the same common sense and avoid a pissing match over this issue.
 
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RE: Did ACA Get A New 772 Yesterday?

Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:13 am

Is this her?
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w87/Osprey88/Pacific%20Northwest%20trip/IMG_2574.jpg

That is a pic from June 30 that I took during my visit to the Boeing plant.
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RE: Did ACA Get A New 772 Yesterday?

Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:22 am

Quoting Osprey88 (Reply 31):
Is this her?

No, that's C-FIUR, a 300.

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