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Sands' 747SP Enroute Back To LAS-8-8

Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:17 am

Just got a flightaware notice that the Las Vegas Sands' 747SP-31 is returning from paint in SBD.

Sorry,it's returning to LAS...

[Edited 2007-08-08 22:26:42]
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RE: Sands' 747SP Enroute Back To LAS-8-8

Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:23 am

Cool, can't wait to see a picture of both the 747 and L1011 together.

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RE: Sands' 747SP Enroute Back To LAS-8-8

Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:04 am

Sorry again,reg is now N992MS....

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RE: Sands' 747SP Enroute Back To LAS-8-8

Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:33 pm

http://www.747sp.com/viewphoto.asp?1058

Nice to see a new private-jet-like livery on a 747SP.
 
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RE: Sands' 747SP Enroute Back To LAS-8-8

Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:55 pm

Cool,now the -SP and L1011 match!
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RE: Sands' 747SP Enroute Back To LAS-8-8

Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:30 am

I saw this plane in Vegas on Saturday. Sweet looking bird.
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RE: Sands' 747SP Enroute Back To LAS-8-8

Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:40 am

Quoting SJUSXM (Reply 5):
I saw this plane in Vegas on Saturday. Sweet looking bird.

is it where OAI usually puts their DC10 and 757? or is it on the corner of Trop and Koval, if you know the street names? i managed to miss the SP on its departure date...i thought it wasnt going to be back for a while..
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RE: Sands' 747SP Enroute Back To LAS-8-8

Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:20 am

Does Vegas Sands still have a BBJ and that 767? Cause I recall seing both of these airplanes in the same livery, but I don't know if the L-1011 and SP are replacements or additions to the Vegas Sands Fleet, if their add-ons then that's an impressive VIP fleet! Big grin

I need to go drive down by Koval or by the South Strip to see if I catch the SP, never seen one live, so that'll be something!!!

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RE: Sands' 747SP Enroute Back To LAS-8-8

Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:40 am

Quoting MX77W (Reply 7):
Does Vegas Sands still have a BBJ and that 767

I believe so. Is this it.

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/photos/small/6/1/6/1136616.jpg

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Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:43 am

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RE: Sands' 747SP Enroute Back To LAS-8-8

Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:25 pm

Pardon my ingnorance, but I am a native of Las Vegas and have never heard of these Las Vegas Sands planes. Granted I haven't lived there for a few years, but are they used for junkets or high rollers? Thanks for the info!
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RE: Sands' 747SP Enroute Back To LAS-8-8

Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:39 pm

Quoting RW717 (Reply 10):
but are they used for junkets or high rollers?

High rollers to/from Sheldon's new casino in Maccua.
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RE: Sands' 747SP Enroute Back To LAS-8-8

Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:27 am

Looks like it was re-registered in Bermuda as VP-BLK. (blackjack maybe  Smile ).


http://flightaware.com/live/flight/VPBLK
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RE: Sands' 747SP Enroute Back To LAS-8-8

Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:46 am

The 747Sp was seen in Macau a couple of days ago for the opening of the Venetian Hotel/Casino in Macau....the 2nd largest building in the world after the Boeing hangar at Everett!!
 
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RE: Sands' 747SP Enroute Back To LAS-8-8

Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:14 pm

Quoting CX flyboy (Reply 13):
the 2nd largest building in the world after the Boeing hangar at Everett!!

Didn't know about this, had to google it...what a HUGE hotel bldg, I'm sure more than one guest will get lost trying to find the room!

On the topic, the 747SP is such an unusual A/C, I'm happy to see a few still in the air. Anyone happen to know how many SP's are still in service and with whom?

Thanks!

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RE: Sands' 747SP Enroute Back To LAS-8-8

Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:44 pm

CX Flyboy...Sounds like an incorrect report. The aircraft has not left LAS since arriving two weeks ago. More than likely, it was the 763...The L10's have not been seen at all and maybe getting some work done on them. From what I have heard, there were a whole bunch of AD's that needed to be addressed on these a/c prior to being put in service.
 
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RE: Sands' 747SP Enroute Back To LAS-8-8

Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:52 pm

So which Venetian is bigger? The Las Vegas one or the Macau one? I suppose the one in Las Vegas is bigger since they have 4000+ rooms. The Macau one has around 3000 only.

I thought Hong Kong Chek Lap Kok International Airport Terminal 1 is the largest single building!

From what I heard Macau's income on gambling has surpassed Las Vegas's. Can anyone confirm that? But I am sure Las Vegas has a much higher GNP than Macau right?
 
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RE: Sands' 747SP Enroute Back To LAS-8-8

Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:58 pm

Apparently the Venetian in Macau is FAR larger than the Vegas equivalent
 
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RE: Sands' 747SP Enroute Back To LAS-8-8

Wed Aug 29, 2007 8:46 pm

But the Macau one has 3000 rooms while the Las Vegas one has 4000+
 
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RE: Sands' 747SP Enroute Back To LAS-8-8

Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:39 pm

Quoting Crownvic (Reply 15):
CX Flyboy...Sounds like an incorrect report. The aircraft has not left LAS since arriving two weeks ago. More than likely, it was the 763...The L10's have not been seen at all and maybe getting some work done on them. From what I have heard, there were a whole bunch of AD's that needed to be addressed on these a/c prior to being put in service.

I have a photo of it in Macau sitting next to their BBJ, 767-300 and two Gulfstreams.

Quoting Aussie_ (Reply 17):
Apparently the Venetian in Macau is FAR larger than the Vegas equivalent

The Macau Venetian is 3 times larger than the Vegas one. The minimum room size is almost 700sq ft, which makes them the size of the average Hong Kong flat if not bigger!!

Quoting United Airline (Reply 16):
From what I heard Macau's income on gambling has surpassed Las Vegas's. Can anyone confirm that?

There is an article in today's SCMP. Macau's gambling has already surpassed that of Vegas and next year is expected to surpass that of the entire Nevada state. The Sands hotel/casino which has been up and running for a while now, recouped the entire cost of building the building and casino in the first 6 months of operations! It's madness.

The Venetian have bought their own S76 helicopters for their own shuttle service as well as 10 new catamaran ferries for services to Hong Kong and other chinese cities. Their intention is to have a VIP aircraft fleet larger than that of Air Macau and with the 747, 763, BBJ and Gulfstreams they are already on their way to it (Although it is shared by the other Venetian and Sands hotels.)
 
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RE: Sands' 747SP Enroute Back To LAS-8-8

Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:27 am

Quoting Charles79 (Reply 14):
On the topic, the 747SP is such an unusual A/C, I'm happy to see a few still in the air. Anyone happen to know how many SP's are still in service and with whom?

http://www.747sp.com/Prodlist.asp
 
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RE: Sands' 747SP Enroute Back To LAS-8-8

Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:03 am

But I am sure Las Vegas's total GDP/GNP is a lot higher than Macau's total GDP/GNP right?

So how does MGM compare to Venetian Macau?
 
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RE: Sands' 747SP Enroute Back To LAS-8-8

Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:42 am

Quoting United Airline (Reply 18):
But the Macau one has 3000 rooms while the Las Vegas one has 4000+

Well Venetian Las Vegas as of the end of the year (if they make it on time) with the addition of The Palazzo will have 7000+ rooms making it the official new World's Largest Hotel, but I guess in terms of Casino Sq. Footage the Macau one might be bigger since the LV Venetian complex is really tight on space.

In any case, I had the chance to see the 747SP the other day from across the tarmac (I was at T2 waiting to board an MX A320) so I was glad I got to fainally see one live!!! Big grin

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RE: Sands' 747SP Enroute Back To LAS-8-8

Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:13 am

Quoting United Airline (Reply 21):

So how does MGM compare to Venetian Macau?

MGM has somewhere around 6200 something rooms when you include their "Signature" Tower suites, thus making it the current worlds largest hotel. However.. When palazzo at the venetian opens....

Quoting MX77W (Reply 22):
7000+ rooms making it the official new World's Largest Hotel

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So in less then a year, the Venetian Las vegas will be the largest hotel in the world, surpassing the MGM, as well as its Macau equivilant  Smile
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RE: Sands' 747SP Enroute Back To LAS-8-8

Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:51 am

Quoting CX flyboy (Reply 13):
The 747Sp was seen in Macau a couple of days ago for the opening of the Venetian Hotel/Casino in Macau....the 2nd largest building in the world after the Boeing hangar at Everett!!



Quoting CX flyboy (Reply 19):
I have a photo of it in Macau sitting next to their BBJ, 767-300 and two Gulfstreams.

Saw all of them on the ramp at MFM this past weekend (but only saw one gulfstream)...I was wondering who they belonged to because they all have the same livery!

Now I know.

And the Ventian Macau is Enormous, it's right next to the airport literally so you'll see it on landing. Huge...
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RE: Sands' 747SP Enroute Back To LAS-8-8

Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:06 pm

CX Flyboy...I stand corrected and apologize. The a/c was on the ramp at LAS on Monday, so I assume it never left. It is possible that it flew over the w/e and came back. Regardless, it did leave sometime Monday night again and went to Macau fo rthe opening. What day did you shoot it in MFM?
 
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RE: Sands' 747SP Enroute Back To LAS-8-8

Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:10 pm

So overall which one will be bigger with the addition of The Palazzo ? Venetian Las Vegas?

And which one is bigger in terms of land? Venetian Las Vegas?

It seems to me that the Macau Airport is bigger than Venetian Macao

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RE: Sands' 747SP Enroute Back To LAS-8-8

Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:09 pm

Quoting Crownvic (Reply 25):
CX Flyboy...I stand corrected and apologize. The a/c was on the ramp at LAS on Monday, so I assume it never left. It is possible that it flew over the w/e and came back. Regardless, it did leave sometime Monday night again and went to Macau fo rthe opening. What day did you shoot it in MFM?

Not a problem!!! Unfortunately it was not me who shot it but I saw the photo. The 747SP has been doing shuttle flights between Taipei and Macau...well a couple of them anyway. Rich Taiwanese perhaps?
 
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RE: Sands' 747SP Enroute Back To LAS-8-8

Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:43 pm

Coming back to LAX this afternoon,someone get a shot of it!

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/VPBLK
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RE: Sands' 747SP Enroute Back To LAS-8-8

Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:25 am

Flightaware also shows an SV -SP enroute from CDG-LAX . Wow,how often do you see 2 -SP's in one place,active!!
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