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A380 In Hartford In October

Sat Aug 11, 2007 11:21 pm

From today's Hartford Courant:

The European airframe maker Airbus intends to land one of its A380 "superjumbo" jets - the world's largest passenger aircraft - at Bradley International Airport in early October, airport officials said Friday.

http://www.courant.com/business/hc-airbus0811.artaug11,0,7311331.story

Thanks to the guys on the BDL Yahoo! Group for the heads-up.
 
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RE: A380 In Hartford In October

Sat Aug 11, 2007 11:36 pm

Very interesting. Does anyone know if it will be coming to IND (which is equipped to handle it) anytime soon?
 
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RE: A380 In Hartford In October

Sat Aug 11, 2007 11:45 pm

May I ask why it will go to BDL? Surely NW's BDL-AMS isn't going to perform that well  wink 

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RE: A380 In Hartford In October

Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:07 am

Remember that the first 777 made a visit to PW's company airport in East Hartford. Since then, the airport has been closed due to the UCONN football stadium and other developments on the property.

Its a nice PR move. Its no coincidence that it goes on to Cincinati. Thats where GE is. So they are sending the 380 to the GP7000 partner airports.

I might have to go over to see it. I remember thinking I went back in time a few months ago because there was a 747-200 and a Pan-Am liveried 727 at BDL on the same day.
 
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RE: A380 In Hartford In October

Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:19 am

I can schedule business in BDL around that time, so I say we have a little get together. I'm not what you would call an organizer of events by any stretch of the imagination, but how about the BDL locals come up with an idea of where we can meet?

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RE: A380 In Hartford In October

Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:40 am

Quoting Coal (Reply 2):
May I ask why it will go to BDL?

"An exact date has not been announced, but the latest plans call for an A380 to depart Airbus headquarters in Toulouse, France, and make the first of three U.S. stops in Hartford, according to Pratt & Whitney [located near Hartford], which makes engines for the A380 with partner General Electric.

"The plane, a double-decker that can seat between 555 and 853 passengers, would take off for Cincinnati [GE] the next day and then fly to San Francisco."

"San Francisco International Airport, the final destination for the October tour, is one of 18 U.S. airports being retrofitted to accommodate the giant aircraft. Bradley is not among them. But Kiran Jain, Bradley's marketing director, said the airport, which also serves as an Air National Guard base, can handle the plane, which has a wingspan of about 262 feet and takeoff weight of up to 1.2 million pounds."
 
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RE: A380 In Hartford In October

Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:02 am

Some of the best weather New England sees is in early October, so if that's the case I and hundreds or thousands of New England aviation enthusiasts will be there! So much for my prediction that Bangor would be the first New England airport to see the A380!

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RE: A380 In Hartford In October

Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:58 am

What about all those criticisms of the A380 program that only a handful of larger airports could handle this very large plane? Of course this plane will be lighter than a regular A380 loaded with luggage and 500+ passengers, and in this case it will not have to taxi to a gate, but still it is encouraging to see that the A380 can fly into smaller airports like BDL.
 
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RE: A380 In Hartford In October

Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:05 am

Quoting PYP757 (Reply 7):
What about all those criticisms of the A380 program that only a handful of larger airports could handle this very large plane? Of course this plane will be lighter than a regular A380 loaded with luggage and 500+ passengers, and in this case it will not have to taxi to a gate, but still it is encouraging to see that the A380 can fly into smaller airports like BDL.

I agree. A vs. B aside, it'll be good to see the how the "whale" performs. I still have some reservations on the "hot and high" performance specs, but I'm sure the folks at Airbus have those worked out.

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RE: A380 In Hartford In October

Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:14 am

Quoting Rdwelch (Reply 8):
I agree. A vs. B aside, it'll be good to see the how the "whale" performs. I still have some reservations on the "hot and high" performance specs, but I'm sure the folks at Airbus have those worked out.

I must confess that I have always been a Boeing fan personally, but at the same time wish the A380 every success. It's a remarkable plane, and I can't wait to fly it one day. I can't believe the strong emotions that this A vs B battle sometimes ignite on this forum, but like you say in another one of your posts, it's entertaining (more than soap operas on US TV for sure!).

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RE: A380 In Hartford In October

Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:21 am

Quoting Reality (Reply 5):

"San Francisco International Airport, the final destination for the October tour, is one of 18 U.S. airports being retrofitted to accommodate the giant aircraft. Bradley is not among them. But Kiran Jain, Bradley's marketing director, said the airport, which also serves as an Air National Guard base, can handle the plane, which has a wingspan of about 262 feet and takeoff weight of up to 1.2 million pounds."

..they are finally deciding to bring the A380 to SFO when we were one of the first airports to be A380 ready?

edited for content..

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RE: A380 In Hartford In October

Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:34 am

Quoting PYP757 (Reply 9):
I can't believe the strong emotions that this A vs B battle sometimes ignite on this forum, but like you say in another one of your posts, it's entertaining (more than soap operas on US TV for sure!).

True, but if we didn't have a debate on A.net then we'd be patting each other on the butt saying "great play" with every post.

Back on topic, I have to agree with you in so much that Airbus has put so much time and effort (I hope) in to this product. I love both Boeing and Airbus, and in many repects, Embrear and Canadiar. But, I've got to get my eye ball on the big girl to see what she might bring, economics aside.

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RE: A380 In Hartford In October

Sun Aug 12, 2007 3:00 am

Hello,

Quoting Reality (Reply 5):
the first of three U.S. stops in Hartford, according to Pratt & Whitney [located near Hartford], which makes engines for the A380 with partner General Electric.

Hamilton Sundstrand, another UTC-subsidiary, is also involved in the A-380, I believe, and they are literally across the street from the BDL terminals and parking decks.
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RE: A380 In Hartford In October

Sun Aug 12, 2007 4:11 am

Quoting Ordfrbdl (Reply 12):
Hamilton Sundstrand, another UTC-subsidiary, is also involved in the A-380, I believe, and they are literally across the street from the BDL terminals and parking decks

Yes they are.
 
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RE: A380 In Hartford In October

Sun Aug 12, 2007 5:28 am

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 10):
..they are finally deciding to bring the A380 to SFO when we were one of the first airports to be A380 ready?

Get over it, we'll all go down there and meet each other in person for once!  Smile
 
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RE: A380 In Hartford In October

Sun Aug 12, 2007 5:39 am

BDL has a larger than normal runway width, that should help. BDL also sees the An-124 on a monthly basis and the An-224 has landed there before.
 
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RE: A380 In Hartford In October

Sun Aug 12, 2007 6:12 am

Quoting WingedMigrator (Reply 14):
Get over it, we'll all go down there and meet each other in person for once!  Smile

...that would certainly be cool... thumbsup  as I'm sure there will be quite a few A.netters there for arrival pah-tee... Smile
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RE: A380 In Hartford In October

Sun Aug 12, 2007 7:42 am

Quoting MarkC (Reply 3):
Remember that the first 777 made a visit to PW's company airport in East Hartford. Since then, the airport has been closed due to the UCONN football stadium and other developments on the property.

Made it a great jogging path.  Wink

Quoting MarkC (Reply 3):
Its a nice PR move.

Yes it is. The Pratt people who worked the program get a big "ego boost" seeing their product fly. I'm sure it will do an overflight of the East Hartford plant.  Smile

If nothing else, it makes BDL a great diversion for JFK.  spin 

Quoting Ordfrbdl (Reply 12):
Hamilton Sundstrand, another UTC-subsidiary, is also involved in the A-380, I believe, and they are literally across the street from the BDL terminals and parking decks.

As already noted, yep!

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RE: A380 In Hartford In October

Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:26 am

I am already planning on being at the Cincy airport when it arrives! All I need is a date for it's arrival.
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RE: A380 In Hartford In October

Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:03 pm

Quoting Rdwelch (Reply 4):
I can schedule business in BDL around that time, so I say we have a little get together. I'm not what you would call an organizer of events by any stretch of the imagination, but how about the BDL locals come up with an idea of where we can meet?

As long as it is not on October 5-9, I'll do my best to be there. There is a small spotting area on the access road that gives pretty good views of the main runway. Been there once before. When the date is announced, we'll see if something can be set up. Hoping for Friday October 12 since that fits best with my schedule  Wink

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RE: A380 In Hartford In October

Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:16 pm

Quoting Texan (Reply 19):
Texan

It is a start. We'll build from there.

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RE: A380 In Hartford In October

Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:38 pm

BDL could also be good for an emergency airport for the A380, especially if serious delays at JFK/EWR. Now if they would do a run in/out of EWR that would make me very happy Big grin
 
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RE: A380 In Hartford In October

Sun Aug 12, 2007 4:50 pm

 bigthumbsup  Thats great news!!! Will definitely not miss this chance to see this exciting airplane!!! Hey anyone here knows of a great place to spot at BDL?
 
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RE: A380 In Hartford In October

Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:41 pm

Quoting B757LVR (Reply 22):

There are a couple of good vantage points for spotting at BDL. The best would be for runway 6. There is a dirt and gravel parking area just North of the approach lighting for 6. Also, just across the road from the parking area is a small field where one could stand right on the approach path for runway 6 arrivals. Just follow Rte. 20 West from the terminal. You can't miss them. You can also get a good shot from Perimeter Road for arrivals on 24. The local police force might ruffle your feathers there, though, as they have it marked "no parking both sides" on that road. Something tells me, though, that they might be in over their heads the day the A380 comes in.
 
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RE: A380 In Hartford In October

Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:33 am

Yeah, I would bet they are going to do some serious organizing for this arrival. BDL fortunately has a lot of places where it is very easy to see the runway and airport. While much of them are normally off limits, I bet with the demand that they may end up staffing some security at them and offering some observation points where they can people out of the way of normal airport operations.

There's a hotel at BDL, right? Do they have windows that overlook the runway?
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RE: A380 In Hartford In October

Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:29 am

Quoting Cloudboy (Reply 24):
There's a hotel at BDL, right? Do they have windows that overlook the runway?

Yes there is a Sheraton in the airport. Half the rooms offer good airport views (one side faces the airport, the other faces the parking lots). If the a/c lands on R/W 24, you'd have a great view. If it lands on R/W 6, you won't have a view of the touchdown, but you would see the roll-out.
 
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RE: A380 In Hartford In October

Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:52 am

Quoting MarkC (Reply 3):
Remember that the first 777 made a visit to PW's company airport in East Hartford. Since then, the airport has been closed due to the UCONN football stadium and other developments on the property.

Ah, I was there that day. Great memories. Have several photos of the 777's fly-by from the then Frank's Nursery on Silver Lane.
 
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RE: A380 In Hartford In October

Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:06 am

Quoting PresRDC (Reply 25):
If it lands on R/W 6, you won't have a view of the touchdown, but you would see the roll-out.

Not true, you will get a decent view of it from the lot on Rte 20

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RE: A380 In Hartford In October

Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:21 am

http://www.daily-bourse.fr/news.php?news=AFP070813161306.bixmn959

MSN 009 GP7200 equipped will go to Hartford , Cincinnati and SFO

MSN 003 RR equipped will go to BKK , Hanoi , HKG , ICN.
 
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RE: A380 In Hartford In October

Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:12 am

Quoting FCKC (Reply 28):
MSN 009 GP7200 equipped will go to Hartford , Cincinnati and SFO

And the dates, from the above article, are:

L'avion sera à Bradley (Connecticut) les 2 et 3 octobre, au North Kentucky Airport de Cincinnati (Ohio) les 3 et 4 octobre et à San Francisco (Californie) les 4 et 5 octobre.

(Seems to make sense even if we don't speak French)
 
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RE: A380 In Hartford In October

Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:04 pm

The way I understand it, #009 coming to Hartford et al will be just a hollow cabin with nothing in it aside from test gear. Is that correct?

Also, I really, really hope that officials at Bradley are planning for an onslaught of New England enthusiasts interested in seeing the plane. They had better be 'up' on what they will be facing on those two days...and especially the times that the plane will land and take off. There should be NO excuse for not having a proper plan in place, with nearly two months to prepare for this.

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RE: A380 In Hartford In October

Wed Aug 15, 2007 1:01 am

Quoting Golftango (Reply 27):
Not true, you will get a decent view of it from the lot on Rte 20

Read what I wrote. You won't have a view FROM THE HOTEL if it lands on R/W6.
 
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RE: A380 In Hartford In October

Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:12 am

Quoting PresRDC (Reply 31):
Read what I wrote. You won't have a view FROM THE HOTEL if it lands on R/W6.

Gotcha! My bad. Yes, from the hotel, no dice.
 
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RE: A380 In Hartford In October

Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:32 am

Got an internal notice confirming the October 2 arrival date and October 3 departure date.
 
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RE: A380 In Hartford In October

Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:04 pm

Is this particular plane painted in the Airbus livery, or will it have a carrier's color scheme? I've seen Singapore and Emirates, although I think those might have been decals or temporary graphics to suit a particular promotional trip.

Hopefully the security people (police, et al) will be briefed beforehand to expect a sizable contingent of aircraft enthusiasts to descend on BDL the day it arrives. All they need to do is check YouTube for video showing what happened when the A380 came to LAX and then (probably) divide by two. That still makes for a big crowd of people and slow-moving cars.

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RE: A380 In Hartford In October

Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:07 pm

Reg. is F-WWEA. So yeah, it's painted in the standard Airbus livery.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1230127/M/
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