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Cayman Airways To End IAH,BOS; Other Winter Change

Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:41 pm

Cayman Airways has unveield their full winter schedule, which goes into effect 9 November 2007. The major news is that service to Houston, which Cayman Airways, IIRC, has operated for a very, very long time will be discontinued. They have also decided against renewing seasonal service to Boston. This follows their ending of service to Fort Lauderdale earlier ths year.

Service to New York City, however, will increase to 5x weekly during peak season, while service to Tampa will increase to daily. They will also resume two weekly seasonal flights to Chicago O'Hare, and add two additional weekly flights to Kingston (for 14x weekly). Service to Miami will remain at three daily flights.

http://www.caycompass.com/cgi-bin/CFPnews.cgi?ID=1024287
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RE: Cayman Airways To End IAH,BOS; Other Winter Change

Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:45 pm

What is the equipment on those? Reading the article it mentions averaging well under 100 pax per flight, so surely not anything more than a 733 I hope.
 
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RE: Cayman Airways To End IAH,BOS; Other Winter Change

Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:02 pm

Sad to see IAH lose such a long serving int'l operator, their 737s will be missed.

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RE: Cayman Airways To End IAH,BOS; Other Winter Change

Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:42 pm

Shame to see KX retreating from Houston after so many years. I flew this wonderful little airline back in 1998 from Miami to spend the summer in the Cayman Islands. Friendly staff and well kept 737-200s. I think KX would benefit by adding the E190 to the fleet and testing the thinner routes, such as Boston, with a smaller aircraft.
 
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RE: Cayman Airways To End IAH,BOS; Other Winter Change

Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:22 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
Cayman Airways has unveield their full winter schedule, which goes into effect 9 November 2007. The major news is that service to Houston, which Cayman Airways, IIRC, has operated for a very, very long time will be discontinued.

I think KX added this route in 1979 / 1980. KX has flown IAH-GCM longer than AA has flown DFW-SJU. Definitely sad to see this route discontinued.
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RE: Cayman Airways To End IAH,BOS; Other Winter Change

Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:16 am

Quoting WA707atMSP (Reply 4):

I think KX added this route in 1979 / 1980. KX has flown IAH-GCM longer than AA has flown DFW-SJU. Definitely sad to see this route discontinued.

The earliest photo of KX at IAH is from 1978.


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I flew IAH-GCM on KX back in 1998. Shame to see it go, but it isn't a huge loss as CO flies this route 4x weekly.
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RE: Cayman Airways To End IAH,BOS; Other Winter Ch

Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:35 am

Quoting NateDAL (Reply 5):
Shame to see it go, but it isn't a huge loss as CO flies this route 4x weekly

Indeed, but it is the loss of another int'l carrier, especially one that has been at IAH for 29 years, that hurts.

A little off topic perhaps but I brought up an interesting point regarding services by foreign carriers from IAH over at Houston Spotters. I' ve posted it below.

I have asked this before and in light of losing KX, I'll ask it again. Why can't IAH get past hosting 12 foreign carriers at any one time? Seems to me just when we are about to acquire a new carrier, another departs.

So with the departure of KX, we have;

1 British Airways
2 Air France
3 KLM
4 (just for arguments sake, I'll add Privat Air)
5 Lufthansa
6 China Airlines
7 Air Canada
8 AeroMexico
9 Aviasca
10 Taca
11 Emirates
12 Sonair/World (kinda of a gray area, I know but it is bank rolled by the Angolan government)

Did I forget anyone?

Pending
13 Korean

Now just for giggles, let's say all of the foreign (pax) carriers over the last 25 years, stayed put, no mergers, no political bs (as in the case of South African), ect... what would we have.....?
14 Gulf Air
15 Pakistan
16 South African
17 Royal Jordanian
18 Viasa
19 LTU
20 Condor
21 Aviteca
22 Shasa
23 Lacasa
24 Air Jamaica
25 Caymen
26 ALM
27 Air Aruba

While no JFK, LAX, MIA or even an ORD, a pretty respectable line up, imo.

Thomas

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RE: Cayman Airways To End IAH,BOS; Other Winter Change

Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:50 am

When did LTU or Lacasa (the house) LACSA have regular flights to IAH? I know they flew to MSY but I don't think IAH. They do now in a way through TACA. As you could say somewhat the same for SAHSA although they are gone. CO could do the same as AA does in DFW and try to run everyone that does not codeshare with them out of town but luckily they do not so you still have some selection there to see and travel on.

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RE: Cayman Airways To End IAH,BOS; Other Winter Ch

Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:07 am

Quoting Notdownnlocked (Reply 7):
When did LTU or Lacasa (the house) LACSA have regular flights to IAH? I know they flew to MSY but I don't think IAH. They do now in a way through TACA. As you could say somewhat the same for SAHSA although they are gone. I did witness TAN-Shasa's 737s at IAH on several occasions.

Well I am basing this on what I have been told by ex-PA and BI rampers who worked IAH during that era. I was not a Houston resident at the time but I did frequent the city. I actually did see an LTU L1011 at 'B' in the early 80s. From what I understand, LTU and Condor services were purely charters that ran during the summers, some years before LH began scheduled ops. As for LASACA, I was surprised to hear that they had flights, I will have to trust my source on this, perhaps these too were seasonal charters, I can't say.

Quoting Notdownnlocked (Reply 7):
CO could do the same as AA does in DFW and try to run everyone that does not codeshare with them out of town but luckily they do not so you still have some selection there to see and travel on.

As much as I love CO, I am afraid that is what is happening, especially with regards to the Caribbean and Latin America. I wonder how long it will be before Aviasca, Aeromexico or Taca will be nothing more than memories.

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RE: Cayman Airways To End IAH,BOS; Other Winter Change

Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:02 am

I thought for sure I used to see LR (Lacsa) at IAH back in the early 80s. I know for certain I saw Sahsa's 737-200s. That plane used every bit of Rwy 13L for take off, as did Taca's a/c. KX was nice to see over the years, it drummed up visions of pristine beaches only a few hrs away on a BAC111.  thumbsup 

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RE: Cayman Airways To End IAH,BOS; Other Winter Change

Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:14 am

I thought the SAHSA 727's and 737s had one of the nicest paints schemes around....they are sure missed in MSY as well as IAH I can tell you!

As far as LR in IAH....not sure. They might have. They flew SJO-CUN-MSY for many years with equip. ranging from 72S to 73S to 320.
 
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RE: Cayman Airways To End IAH,BOS; Other Winter Change

Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:31 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
Cayman Airways has unveield their full winter schedule, which goes into effect 9 November 2007. The major news is that service to Houston, which Cayman Airways, IIRC, has operated for a very, very long time will be discontinued. They have also decided against renewing seasonal service to Boston. This follows their ending of service to Fort Lauderdale earlier ths year.

Cayman Airways has never been run like a commercial airline, but rather almost a branch of the tourism dept, making huge losses on ill conceived routes, namely the aforementioned routes which are now being discontinued. They were boind to fail, and it did not help that BOS service commenced shortly after hurricane Ivan when travel to the island plummeted for several months, into years afterwards.

In fact it seems it has still not recovered to pre storm levels, as AA does not operate nearly the capacity into GCM from MIA as they used to, used to be 3 dailies 7x week, often 752s or 738s and they ran full most of time. I am not sure but I don't think AA has even resumed twice daily service, at leat not twice daily 7x week.
 
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RE: Cayman Airways To End IAH,BOS; Other Winter Change

Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:33 am

I grew up around DFW and IAH and know for sure that Lacsa LR never had scheduled flights with its own a/c to IAH. Probably charters just the same with LTU. Condor flew around 1978/79 scheduled charters a few days a week IAH-DFW-FRA with their yellow and silver DC-10-30s. They were owned by LH and the flights were a way to test the market before LH started their own DFW/ATL flights in 1980. IAH started a year or two later tied with DFW and split with MEX. I remember the VA DC-8s as well the SAHSA 727s too watching them and getting photos from the roadways and parking garage. I have some of the old timetables where Condor printed the DFW/IAH schedules.
 
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RE: Cayman Airways To End IAH,BOS; Other Winter Ch

Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:16 am

Quoting Notdownnlocked (Reply 12):
I grew up around DFW and IAH and know for sure that Lacsa LR never had scheduled flights with its own a/c to IAH. Probably charters

Come to think of it, I do recall seeing a Lasca A320 rotating off one the 15s back in the early 90s. I just returned a rental and was on the shuttle back to 'C' when we passed 15L and a strange red white and blue A320 passed overhead, I caught the title Lasca. Again as you suggest t was probably a charter.

With regards to the other Central American carriers, I curse the day that 'Grupo Taca' was born that led to the deaths of some of the most stunning liveries in the skies.


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These certainly added a lot of color to the ramps of MIA, IAH and MSY .

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RE: Cayman Airways To End IAH,BOS; Other Winter Change

Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:57 am

There used to be a great billboard on the airport access road in MSY which said something like "New Orleans is proud to host these international airlines"...and it had the tails of Lacsa, Taca, Aviateca, Sahsa, and Aeromexico. My how times have changed. Those Central American carriers really did have unique liveries. I too curse TA....now if they would be so bold as to have some logojets with the old color schemes, I wouldn't be quite as mad.

I remember my folks went to GCM one year and I was trying to convince them to try Cayman via IAH, but my mother insisted that it was "too far out of the way".  Wink
 
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RE: Cayman Airways To End IAH,BOS; Other Winter Change

Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:10 am

Threre are still some TACA planes around with LACSA titles and the CR registration but still not the same. I was lucky enough to fly one DFW-SAL. The old GU 727 is one of my all time favorites as the photos do not do it justice. It had to be seen and heard in person. There was a time that KX flew charters or diversions to DFW and one came through the DL ramp between the satellite and terminal and back out. We heard they crew was lost as they were trying to make their way to terminal A. Too bad to see them leave IAH after decades. The old SAHSA 727 is also one of my old favorites with the small lettering below the window line.
 
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RE: Cayman Airways To End IAH,BOS; Other Winter Change

Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:21 am

Quoting Thomasphoto60 (Reply 6):
26 ALM
27 Air Aruba

These two airlines never flew to Houston if that is what you mean (?)

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RE: Cayman Airways To End IAH,BOS; Other Winter Change

Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:21 am

I only flew them once and it was when I was young. I recall summer of 1996 I think on a 737 from TPA roundtripping. What is their service like and what kind of class config do they hold.

I agree it is a shame to see them go though. With a history like so at IAH it would be a shame to see any carrier go.
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RE: Cayman Airways To End IAH,BOS; Other Winter Ch

Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:51 am

Quoting A388 (Reply 16):
These two airlines never flew to Houston if that is what you mean (?)

Well Air Aruba did, I was there when their inaugural flight arrived, snapping pics as evidenced below and a party inside the terminal with airline officials and local politicos.


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As for ALM, well, like my comments regarding Lasca and others I was not here and I am only passing on info from those that worked IAH's ramps and worked the flights. Perhaps ALM's service was short lived charter. Air Aruba's service was also short lived, I believe less than 2 months. The Air Aruba flights were not charter rather a scheduled service.

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RE: Cayman Airways To End IAH,BOS; Other Winter Change

Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:34 am

It will be hard on IAH since IAH always has it for very long time. So is there a reason for cut on IAH routes now after long time service on that route?? not enough passengers loads or cost of money to use that route?
 
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RE: Cayman Airways To End IAH,BOS; Other Winter Change

Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:43 am

Quoting Boeing743 (Reply 19):
So is there a reason for cut on IAH routes now after long time service on that route?? not enough passengers loads or cost of money to use that route?

Yep...... it likely starts with the initials 'CO'.

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