flavio340
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Clarification Of DL Fleet

Sat Aug 18, 2007 5:22 am

Hello all, I have just a quick question for all the Delta folks out there: What is the specific breakdown of DL fleet? Here is what I know:

737-800: 71
757-200: 121
767-300: 24
767-300ER: 59
767-400ER: 21
777-200ER: 8
MD-88: 120
MD:-90: 16
CRJ-100/200: 133
CRJ-700: 27

* How many 767-400ER's are transatlantic?
* How many MD-88 are Shuttle?
* How many 757-200 are transcontinental?
* Are all 767-400ER going to be converted into transatlantic, and will these allow for new routes?

Thanks for the info
 
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RE: Clarification Of DL Fleet

Sat Aug 18, 2007 5:35 am

767-300ER-60
767-300-20
757-136
CRJ-200-270
CRJ-700-74
CRJ-900-17
ERJ-135-17
ERJ-145-80
ERJ-170-16
EMB-120-12
BE1-8
ATR-72-12

[Edited 2007-08-17 22:36:06]

[Edited 2007-08-17 22:37:26]
 
deltal1011man
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RE: Clarification Of DL Fleet

Sat Aug 18, 2007 6:10 am

Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 1):
767-300ER-60
767-300-20
757-136

no 24 is right and its only 134 (121+13) for the 757s
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FlagshipAZ
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RE: Clarification Of DL Fleet

Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:17 am

Slightly off topic here, but I got a trivia question regarding Delta's past widebody fleet. I know the answers, but how many true DL' s fans here will know this?
How many individual A310s, 747s, DC-10s, MD-11s & L-1011s has Delta Air Lines operated in times past?
Regards.
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RE: Clarification Of DL Fleet

Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:22 am

Quoting Flavio340 (Thread starter):
How many 767-400ER's are transatlantic?
* How many 757-200 are transcontinental?
* Are all 767-400ER going to be converted into transatlantic, and will these allow for new routes?

Currently 8 of 21 764ERs have international BusinessElite seating; in the summer though, they have been using 4 domestic-configured 764ERs in addition for transatlantic as well (ATL-FCO, ATL-SNN, JFK-SNN, CVG-FCO) and selling the whole aircraft as coach.

757-200 transcontinental - if you mean equipped with the individual PTVs: total of 48 ex-Song 757s.

Yes, all 764ERs will eventually be converted; 8 done already; 5 will be done this coming winter in time for service next spring; and the remaining 8 will be done next winter in time for spring/summer 2009 deployment.
 
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RE: Clarification Of DL Fleet

Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:25 am

Quoting FlagshipAZ (Reply 3):
How many individual A310s, 747s, DC-10s, MD-11s & L-1011s has Delta Air Lines operated in times past?

Thats a hard question....

There were five 747-132s.

There were five DC-10-10s.

The L1011s, need to check , it gets confusing with the ex-UA/PA and ex-AC L1011-500s and the L1011-100s leased from TW.

Concerning the MD11s, DL took delivery of 15 (I think) plus the two leased airplanes that ended up with VASP...so 17 in total?

And, there were 7 A310-200s from Pan Am, 14 A310-300s from Pan Am, and then DL ordered another 7 A310-300s to replace the A310-200s, making 28 altogether operated by DL.

Am I close, I am doing this from memory without any research....so be kind!
 
FlagshipAZ
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RE: Clarification Of DL Fleet

Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:32 am

DutchJet...you are correct on the 747s & MD-11s. 5 747s and 17 MD-11s individually is what DL operated.
Try again on the rest.
Regards.
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dutchjet
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RE: Clarification Of DL Fleet

Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:39 am

Quoting FlagshipAZ (Reply 6):
Try again on the rest.

DL ordered 10 (not 7) additional A313s.......lets make that total 31instead of 28.

I really thought that there were 5 DC10s, but I forgot about the ex-WA airplanes (DL's second round with the DC10) making 14 in total.

How am I doing.
 
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RE: Clarification Of DL Fleet

Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:49 am

Correct on the DC-10s. DL operated 14 individual DC-10s...5 from their own order, and 9 again from the Western buyout.
Incorrect on the A310s.
Hint on the Tristar fleet here...DL operated more L-1011s than any other carrier in the world.
Regards.
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RE: Clarification Of DL Fleet

Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:49 am

IIRC, DL ordered 9 A310-300s in addition to the Pan Am birds.
 
dutchjet
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RE: Clarification Of DL Fleet

Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:55 am

DL's A310s

7 A312s ex PA
14 A313s ex PA

Quoting Panamair (Reply 9):
IIRC, DL ordered 9 A310-300s in addition to the Pan Am birds.

That would mean 30 all together?
 
FlagshipAZ
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RE: Clarification Of DL Fleet

Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:04 am

Bingo! On the A310 fleet, DL did indeed operated 30 different birds...21 from PA, and 9 new orders. DutchJet, you're 4 for 5 now. Keep going on the Tristar fleet.
Regards.

P.S. Another hint for the Tristar fleet. DL operated more L-1011s than the A310s, 747s, DC-10s & MD-11s fleets combined.

[Edited 2007-08-18 02:12:00]
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dutchjet
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RE: Clarification Of DL Fleet

Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:58 am

Quoting FlagshipAZ (Reply 11):
Bingo! On the A310 fleet, DL did indeed operated 30 different birds...21 from PA, and 9 new orders. DutchJet, you're 4 for 5 now. Keep going on the Tristar fleet.
Regards

I must give partial credit for the A310 to Panamair (thanks...)

As for the 1011s, thats so hard, 75 in total?
 
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RE: Clarification Of DL Fleet

Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:08 am

Quoting Flavio340 (Thread starter):
Hello all, I have just a quick question for all the Delta folks out there: What is the specific breakdown of DL fleet?

And soon you'll be able to add 6 777-232LRs by end of January 2009. Ship numbers and delivery months are readily available. 2 additional later that year.

10 or so 737-700s.

And possibly more 777s  Wink
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RE: Clarification Of DL Fleet

Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:19 am

Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 2):
no 24 is right and its only 134 (121+13) for the 757s

ok i was wrong DL web has 24 4 owned i have 28 12 owned(and mine is from TechOps so im right)

shuttle a/c ship: 9008-9015 N908DE-N915DE
8 764ER (anyone have the tail numbers?)

Quoting Flavio340 (Thread starter):
* How many 757-200 are transcontinental?
* Are all 767-400ER going to be converted into transatlantic, and will these allow for new routes?

i do not have the numbers for the transcons but DL will make all 752s able to do transcons so they will all be which means 121 757s
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RE: Clarification Of DL Fleet

Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:35 am

Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 14):
ok i was wrong DL web has 24 4 owned i have 28 12 owned(and mine is from TechOps so im right)

DL has 24 767-300s. Soon to be 23 as one is being returned to the lessor.
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deltal1011man
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RE: Clarification Of DL Fleet

Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:39 am

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 15):
DL has 24 767-300s. Soon to be 23 as one is being returned to the lessor.

no sorry i try not to say your wrong because you never are but your wrong on this one.....i will send the list if you want but i got it from a buddy in Atlanta(in TechOps) and there numbers say your wrong(they work on the planes so i think they would know)
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RE: Clarification Of DL Fleet

Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:46 am

Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 16):
no sorry i try not to say your wrong because you never are but your wrong on this one.....i will send the list if you want but i got it from a buddy in Atlanta(in TechOps) and there numbers say your wrong(they work on the planes so i think they would know)


Sorry bro, I hate beating a dead-horse, but others and myself are right. The number is 24.

You can confirm this via Delta Air Lines, Inc.'s 10K filed with the SEC on 3/02/2007. Page 33 of 399.

I would copy and paste, but don't believe it's allowed from an SEC filing.

That being said, there are 24 on property now, and one is being returned to the lessor, making it 23 soon.

[Edited 2007-08-18 03:52:42]
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deltal1011man
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RE: Clarification Of DL Fleet

Sat Aug 18, 2007 11:04 am

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 17):
Sorry bro, I hate beating a dead-horse, but others and myself are right. The number is 24.

You can confirm this via Delta Air Lines, Inc.'s 10K filed with the SEC on 3/02/2007. Page 33 of 399.

I would copy and paste, but don't believe it's allowed from an SEC filing.

That being said, there are 24 on property now, and one is being returned to the lessor, making it 23 soon.

dammit you are right didn't DL have to send 4 back to the leaser?(which went to HA)
Can someone get me some N-numbers or Ship numbers along with the one thats about to go
Alitalia744 your there man sorry about that bro
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RE: Clarification Of DL Fleet

Sat Aug 18, 2007 12:38 pm

IIRC, three more 763 (Domestic) , three MD-88's and one 757 (ship 620) are leaving the fleet in the fall.
This plane is built to withstand anything... except a bad pilot.
 
FlagshipAZ
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RE: Clarification Of DL Fleet

Sat Aug 18, 2007 1:02 pm

DutchJet...the correct total for the L-1011 fleet is 70 airframes. 53 standard-body Tristars and 17 Tristar 500s.
And yes, PanAmAir does get partial credit for the A310 fleet answer. You both have earned a place on my respected user list. Well done, guys.
Regards.
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RE: Clarification Of DL Fleet

Sat Aug 18, 2007 4:11 pm

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 17):
That being said, there are 24 on property now, and one is being returned to the lessor, making it 23 soon.

Which one?

Quoting DL_Mech (Reply 19):
IIRC, three more 763 (Domestic) , three MD-88's and one 757 (ship 620) are leaving the fleet in the fall.

Wow, that's a lot. Why is DL continuing to downsize their fleet despite being clearly short of mainline planes. Doesn't make sense. Anyone know which specific aircraft are going and why?

Jeremy
 
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RE: Clarification Of DL Fleet

Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:51 pm

Quoting SESGDL (Reply 21):
Wow, that's a lot. Why is DL continuing to downsize their fleet despite being clearly short of mainline planes. Doesn't make sense. Anyone know which specific aircraft are going and why?

I have heard that DL did not want to pay the lease rates that the leasors wanted.
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RE: Clarification Of DL Fleet

Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:59 pm

Quoting Dl_mech (Reply 22):
I have heard that DL did not want to pay the lease rates that the leasors wanted.

Exactly, the lessors wanted $X and DL was willing to pay $Y. No deal, so the planes are going back.
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RE: Clarification Of DL Fleet

Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:59 am

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 23):
Quoting Dl_mech (Reply 22):
I have heard that DL did not want to pay the lease rates that the leasors wanted.

Exactly, the lessors wanted $X and DL was willing to pay $Y. No deal, so the planes are going back.

How many of the MD-88's and 752's are owned and leased?
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