luisinho
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Real World Routes

Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:00 am

HI folks  Big grin

One of my hobbies, is flying Flight simulator. Generally i use the FSflightPlanner to generate the route that i was going to use.

But in real world, the things are a bit different... specially on north Atlantic routing.

I'd like to know if there is an application out there to help to calculate this routes.
I tried FSRoute, but the route from EGLL to KJFK was completely wrong. The route came down near Madeira and then near venezuela and up again to new york... almost 6400 nm...  eyepopping 

In north Atlantic, let's say... operating EGLL to KJFK, generally they fly the great circle.

My doubt is... what is the last point before they go direct to the "reentry point" ont he other side of the Atlantic. What are de corridors for Eastbound and Westbound?

How can i make a more real planification of my simulated flights?

Thanks in advance for any explanations....


Cheers!!!

Luis

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Viscount724
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RE: Real World Routes

Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:20 am

These documents may be of interest.
http://occ.ivao.ca/NATOP%20CZQX-EGGX%20150806.pdf
http://occ.ivao.ca/pilots.php
http://occ.ivao.ca/controllers.php
http://www.nat-pco.org/nat/MNPSA/MNPSA_2005.pdf

There's other relevant information and links on the home pages of the sites above.
http://occ.ivao.ca/
http://www.nat-pco.org/

[Edited 2007-08-23 23:32:23]
 
luisinho
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RE: Real World Routes

Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:30 am

Hi Viscount724  bigthumbsup 


Thanks for your precious documents... The North Atlantic Operacions manual is a great document, also the JOINT NORTH ATLANTIC AIRSPACE STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES.

I'm printing them right now, and i'm going to read them carefully, i think that when i finished my reading i'll know a lot more about north atlantic operations...

And what about concorde routes? Did it operated normal routes from FL500 to 600 or had "special Concorde" ones?


Thanks  bouncy 

LUIS
 
Viscount724
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RE: Real World Routes

Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:36 am

Quoting Luisinho (Reply 2):
And what about concorde routes? Did it operated normal routes from FL500 to 600 or had "special Concorde" ones?

I noted at the end of the document in the 2nd link in my message (How to Cross the North Atlantic), there is still a section on Concorde operations which may answer some of your questions. It sounds like the procedures are basically the same except for the altitudes and the "cruise climb" procedure.

Also just edited my message to add a simillar document covering Controller procedures. It's now the 3rd link in the first group.

[Edited 2007-08-23 23:37:50]
 
luisinho
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RE: Real World Routes

Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:55 am

hiii

Thanks again... eheh  thumbsup 

I noticed that about the Concorde immediately after posting.... sorry ehehe!!!!

Thank you very much!!!!  bouncy   bouncy   bouncy   bouncy   bouncy   bouncy   bouncy   bouncy   bouncy   bouncy   bouncy 


Portuguese compliments!!!!


Cheers....  veryhappy   veryhappy   veryhappy 

LUIS
 
Viscount724
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RE: Real World Routes

Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:37 am

Quoting Luisinho (Reply 4):
Thanks again... eheh

You're welcome. Good luck with your simulator flights!!

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