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LH Plans Aquisitions In Europe

Sun Aug 26, 2007 1:27 am

According to the German "Wirtschaftswoche" LH plans aquisitions of airlines in Europe.
LH-CEO Wolfgang Mayrhuber calls BMI "an option".
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RE: LH Plans Aquisitions In Europe

Sun Aug 26, 2007 1:37 am

I'm sorry to say this is a "no news" -that statement has been floating around since three,four months.
It basically boils down to "..yes-we observe the market,Iberia is to expensive,no interest in AZ,yes BMI looks interesting.."
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RE: LH Plans Aquisitions In Europe

Sun Aug 26, 2007 5:08 am

Would they buy SN? Or is that too small to make any difference to them?
 
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RE: LH Plans Aquisitions In Europe

Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:56 am

I'd laugh (and jump with joy!) if the rumor of LH buying JU materializes; its been doing the rounds for a few months now Big grin
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RE: LH Plans Aquisitions In Europe

Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:04 pm

Did Alitalia fold? Would they be interested in any bit of that?
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RE: LH Plans Aquisitions In Europe

Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:28 pm

Wait, isn't LH still integrating LX into the system?

I speculate OS, they're still a small airline, and I could easily see LH integrating the two. That would also effectively make LH the largest airline in the German speaking part of Europe.
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RE: LH Plans Aquisitions In Europe

Sun Aug 26, 2007 5:29 pm

Quoting DL777LAX (Reply 5):
Wait, isn't LH still integrating LX into the system?

I speculate OS, they're still a small airline, and I could easily see LH integrating the two. That would also effectively make LH the largest airline in the German speaking part of Europe.

Isn't that already the case?
 
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RE: LH Plans Aquisitions In Europe

Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:15 pm

Any one of the following would be fairly easy to integrate with LH's operation, as they already have close cooperation through Star Alliance.

BD
JP
OU
OS
LO

but I'd be prepared to bet on JK, AP, Aegean or even SAS. LH have a lot of money to spend.
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RE: LH Plans Aquisitions In Europe

Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:07 pm

I guess OS is pretty unlikely. LH was already saying that the fact that LXs Hub Zurich was close to other LH-Hubs is a small problem for them. So getting an Airline with an Hub (Vienna) that is that close to one of their Hubs (MUC) seems pretty unlikely. Having a Hub in Vienna might be interesting for them, looking at connections to Easter Europe. However, LH is doing that pretty well already from MUC, which already has more connections to Eastern Europe than FRA.

The speculation that they could do something with Spanair in Connection with TAP also seems unlikely, as the still could not expand into South America, which LHs would love to do, due to Spanairs foreign ownership.

Taking over SAS seems to be an interesting option, if they would be able to expand SASs longhaul network.

I don't see, what they would do with YAT, since they, as already mentioned do get a good feed from Eastern Europe by MUC.

The most likely would seem to be BMI. They already have a nice amount ot shares. BMI offers an interesting amount of slots in LHR and together with LH they would have close to 25% of the slots in LHR (Is that right? LH~9-10% and BMI ~14%? Or does LH have ~ 5%)

Looking at what is happening in Italy right now, expanding in that market would be a very interesting option as well. In case the Alitalia story will not end with an happyend, there would be a huge vacuum, where LH could take a very nice share.

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RE: LH Plans Aquisitions In Europe

Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:23 pm

Quoting GlobeEx (Reply 8):
The most likely would seem to be BMI. They already have a nice amount ot shares. BMI offers an interesting amount of slots in LHR and together with LH they would have close to 25% of the slots in LHR (Is that right? LH~9-10% and BMI ~14%? Or does LH have ~ 5%)

LH has 29 daily flights to LHR (HAM 3x, DUS 4x, CGN 3x, FRA 10x, STR 2x, MUC 7x), so 58 daily slots. Does that even qualifies for 5%?
 
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RE: LH Plans Aquisitions In Europe

Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:31 pm

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 7):
Aegean

That would be my guess also A3 would be a good choice.They are already codesharing and co operating with their FFP's also.
 
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RE: LH Plans Aquisitions In Europe

Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:35 pm

Quoting JoFMO (Reply 9):
LH has 29 daily flights to LHR (HAM 3x, DUS 4x, CGN 3x, FRA 10x, STR 2x, MUC 7x), so 58 daily slots. Does that even qualifies for 5%?

If you add the Swiss-slots into LHR, you can add ten flights/day for the LH group.
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RE: LH Plans Aquisitions In Europe

Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:45 pm

I think it's pretty obvious that LH want to buy BD and their slots in LHR, especially with the open-sky agreement coming up. By acquiring BD, *A could FINALLY have a regular service LHR-JFK and LH could improve it's position in the UK so I think this will be a top priority for them.
I really don't see anything else happen for LH in the near future. Maybe, but just maybe, LH will try to get some control over AirOne and help them to become a long-haul carrier and a member of *A.
 
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RE: LH Plans Aquisitions In Europe

Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:03 am

Hm, not sure, howmany slot they do have. Thought, i had something like that in mind. But checkt about the BMI slots and there I was right. Anyway. At the moment, LH is the biggest Airline at LHR, isn't that true?
But 40 Flights per day equal 80 movements. Isn't that close to what LHR handels /hour? So close to 5% could well be, couldn't it?
So 14% plus ~ 4 comes close to 20% which would be more than a third of BAs capacity.

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RE: LH Plans Aquisitions In Europe

Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:29 am

Quoting GlobeEx (Reply 13):
...At the moment, LH is the biggest Airline at LHR, isn't that true?

LH are the biggest not-british carrier at LHR.
And i think BA have around ~35+% of the slots in LHR
 
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RE: LH Plans Aquisitions In Europe

Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:32 am

SAS!!! Forget it... LH would be buying Union problems - not an airline!

Austrian Airlines would not bring the Lufthansa Group any added value... They are already rooted in the Star Alliance throug the Miles&More program with very little chance of defection unless they have a wish to rid themselves of all their loyalty program clients.

I agree with GlobeEx with his reasonning regarding Air One... This would be a very good investment if (when) Alitalia joins the TWA/PAN AM/SABENA/Swissair club.

BMI British Midland is also, in my opinion, the top contender!!! Their Heathrow slots, the open skies agreement between the US and EU that's about to hit the industry, the will of SAS to sell their remaining shares in BMI, and the idea of a direct competitor to BA on their home turf, all add up to make BMI a very attractive opportunity to LH.

So BMI and Air One would be the priority in my opinion, and I believe that LH has the cash to pull both purchases off without blinking.

In future years however, LOT and TAP would also be good contenders to join the LH empire.

I believe big changes in Spannair need to be brought to the airline before it becomes attractive for purchase.

As of Croatia Airlines and Adria Airways - I believe that if they are ever purchased by LH, the transaction would be swift, smooth and dwarfed by the size of LH comparative to these two other airlines.

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RE: LH Plans Aquisitions In Europe

Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:33 am

Don't they have close to 50% of the slots?
And yes, they are the biggest non-british carrier at LHR and the third biggest after BA and BMI and in front of Virgin.
Another thing, just out of interest. Is AA bigger than AF (without KL) at LHR?

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RE: LH Plans Aquisitions In Europe

Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:38 am

Quoting Qazar (Reply 15):
So BMI and Air One would be the priority in my opinion, and I believe that LH has the cash to pull both purchases off without blinking.

They sure would have the cash. However, I would guess they would not do it simultaneously as usually LH masters one thing at a time. After a successful integration of one of these they could try the other one. There is a reason they waited (still wait) to take over another airline after the takeover of LX and its not money, just the fact that they want to do everything right with an integration of one after going on to another.

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RE: LH Plans Aquisitions In Europe

Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:44 am

So I think that's why we can see LH buying BD in the nearer future...SK have already mentioned that LH are the main clients for their BD shares and I read somewhere that SMB is willing to sell his remaining shares in BD so LH can have full control of the carrier.
 
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RE: LH Plans Aquisitions In Europe

Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:57 am

Let Virgin Atlantic swallow bmi and join star alliance... I can imagine that this would give a lot of posibilities to VS regarding connecting traffic, as their codeshares to European destinations could use some upgrade. But having bmi in the LH group would indeed give LH a lot of opportunities in the UK market, when the open-sky agreement comes.

With AirOne and AirDolomiti, they could make a really good step into Italy.

What about TK? Not truly European, but that could mean a big step for Lufthansa in the mid-east sector. But one the other hand... That would be a really HUGE step into intercultural differences and problems and I don't think people would be too happy about the whole thing... But I still kind of like the idea... isn't TK supposed to join *A in 2008 anyway?
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RE: LH Plans Aquisitions In Europe

Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:10 am

Quoting XXMHxLHx5LXx (Reply 19):
Let Virgin Atlantic swallow bmi and join star alliance

Don't know how the chances for VS joining Star are, but I think they got slimmer with the idea of VS of buying its stock from SQ back. However for VS joining star would indeed be an good idea. Getting quite a good feed by LH, LX, OS, Lot, Tap etc. by basically contributing nothing (/little) to the others networks as they don't have short haul flights, which could feed into the other star-members networks. On the other hand, they would have a couple of Virgin expresses all over the world. So could these feed the other *A-Members networks?

Beside that, I think the chances are really slim, that LH would leave BD to Virgin with openskies coming.

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RE: LH Plans Aquisitions In Europe

Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:15 am

I think the most likely for Lufthansa to buyout if they decide to is BMI...

BMI is not the most profitable of airlines, but is at least making money, unlike some other airlines in Europe which are struggling. Also this gives LH a key to one of the most lucrative and profitable airports to fly from in the world...

I think they would cut the majority of BMI's short haul destinations to Europe and only leave the domestic flights, and with the flights they cut this would give them slots for Long Haul routes. I would think LHR passengers would be expected to connect via MUC or FRA for onward connections in Europe.

With BMI recently acquiring BMED, I think this also makes them more attractive... As these "long thin" routes can be very profitable if operated correctly and many of the routes only allow one UK airline to fly the route and would give LH access to this market too.

My views are a little old fashioned here and don't apologise for saying so, but it would be ashame to see a majority British owned airline being sold to a foreign carrier. But in the world of multi-international businesses, I think this is the way forward... For many years I think BMI has lacked focus and this has prevented them from major growth and investment and if LH took them over this would be the kick start they need. I think we would then be looking at three major UK long haul airlines, with BMI being able to and ready to kick BA and Virgin's butt!

One thing I can tell you is, the day Bishop sells his 51% stake in BMI, there will be a very bitter and long drawn out bidding war! It will be of interest to see how the chairman of BMI sways - if he will put the interests of the airline first or sell to the highest bidder to line his pocket... Even though airlines like easyJet would deny an interest, it would not surprise me if they tried to get a cut of the cake. Like FR did with Aer Lingus. I think EI and BM are very similar and have a lot in common.

I think BMI is also the only Star Alliance member in Europe to have their own Frequent Flyers program as alL the other airlines like Swiss, Austrian, LOT, Adria and Croatian use Lufthansa's "Miles&More" program. So this could be integrated and reduce further costs of BMI.

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 7):
Any one of the following would be fairly easy to integrate with LH's operation, as they already have close cooperation through Star Alliance.

BD
JP
OU
OS
LO

I don't think LH has any interest in JP or OU, they may have close links with the airline, but their market and operatations are so small. Under European Open-Skies agreements LH could go and base aircrafts in both countries and starts flights up from Croatia and Slovenia. If they undercut both airlines, JP and OU would be shut down in a year!

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RE: LH Plans Aquisitions In Europe

Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:26 am

Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 21):
I think they would cut the majority of BMI's short haul destinations to Europe and only leave the domestic flights, and with the flights they cut this would give them slots for Long Haul routes.

Well if they would cut the majority of their short haul ops that would be that many long haul flights, they couldn't fill .... but they sure would cut quite a number of the flights to FRA, MUC and ZRH, if not most of them.

Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 21):
One thing I can tell you is, the day Bishop sells his 51% stake in BMI, there will be a very bitter and long drawn out bidding war! It will be of interest to see how the chairman of BMI sways - if he will put the interests of the airline first or sell to the highest bidder to line his pocket...

Can Bishop do that? To what extend is he bound to LH when selling his stocks? Even if he could, LH probably would only have to be afraid of AF/KL since BA wouldn't even try to start bidding for BD as they know, there wouldn't be the slimmest chance of success, as there wouldn't be any competitor left.

Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 21):
For many years I think BMI has lacked focus and if LH took them over this would be the kick start they need.

Agree. Same seemed the case with LX. Okay, they did have an excellent restructuring program before LH took over, which helped a lot. LH said themselves that the restructuring, that took place before LH took over helped alot in saving costs, which is also reflected in the profitability of LX, even when comparing LX results to LH's.
Beside that BD could definately profit from alot of synergies, when merging with LH. Their fleets fit perfectly as well.

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RE: LH Plans Aquisitions In Europe

Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:43 am

Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 21):
One thing I can tell you is, the day Bishop sells his 51% stake in BMI, there will be a very bitter and long drawn out bidding war! It will be of interest to see how the chairman of BMI sways - if he will put the interests of the airline first or sell to the highest bidder to line his pocket...

I think you have hit the core of the problem here, Sir Michael Bishop continually insists that BD is not for sale and as he owns 50% +1 share he knows what he is talking about! The other shares can be bought or sold at will but they will never give their owners control of the airline and Bishop is not showing any signs of allowing that to change.
 
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RE: LH Plans Aquisitions In Europe

Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:47 am

Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 21):
Under European Open-Skies agreements LH could go and base aircrafts in both countries and starts flights up from Croatia and Slovenia. If they undercut both airlines, JP and OU would be shut down in a year!

They wouldn't need to - JP/OU are fully integrated in Star + Miles and More, they have all the benefits of owning JP and OU without the administrative hassle. Seems to be the trend with all LH's "little friends" - OU, LO, JU, etc etc - they get assimilated without a shot being fired or a cent spent.
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RE: LH Plans Aquisitions In Europe

Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:51 am

The situation with SMB seems pretty unclean and uncertain- so to me there is no way LH can get any form of control over BMI.
SMB might outsmart himself though,in that BMI don't have the critical size to finance required investments and growth by themselves.So either he concedes his actual control over BMI to LH or he get's cornered.
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RE: LH Plans Aquisitions In Europe

Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:52 am

Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 21):
With BMI recently acquiring BMED, I think this also makes them more attractive... As these "long thin" routes can be very profitable if operated correctly and many of the routes only allow one UK airline to fly the route and would give LH access to this market too.

Would an LH owned bmi keep all of those traffic rights as it could be arugued a German owned bmi is not British?
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RE: LH Plans Aquisitions In Europe

Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:06 am

Quoting Humberside (Reply 26):

Would an LH owned bmi keep all of those traffic rights as it could be arugued a German owned bmi is not British?

Well, I guess, LH would find a way. Eventually by founding a British holding company like they did with LX.

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RE: LH Plans Aquisitions In Europe

Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:13 am

Several strategies can be adopted when LH takes over BD. Sure, they can cut several of the BD's redundant routes with respect to LH & LX and use these slots to launch longhaul routes. But I believe that BD's short haul network and its connectivity to all of Europe and the entire UK is one of the airline's biggest strengths.

Sir Richard Branson has expressed several times that the BD network is very complimentary to VS's longhaul network, and let's face it, I can't think of any 2 airlines anywhere in the world that have a routes network that would be more complimentary to each other.

Also, Richard Branson has also expressed that he has no intention to join an alliance... The last I had heard of this however was quite a few years back and I'm not sure whether he publicly changed his opinion about the matter or not.

Besides being able to exchange Heathrow slots between themselves (BD, LH & LX), BD can serve as the worm on the hook to entice VS to come aboard *A. Whether he publicly admits it or not, you can't possibly ignore the feeder capability of all those European airlines serving LHR and able to fill and contribute to the future expansion of VS internationally. VS would enormously benefit from this, but the *A would also control more slots out of LHR, and that in itself would give BA quite the run for their money... Can you imagine when BD, LH, LX, OS, SK, LO, AP Air Portugal">TP, JK, AP, TK, MS, QR, AI, SQ, TG, CA, NH, OZ, SA, AC, UA, US (all present and future airlines serving LHR), are all contributing to feed your airline with passengers at the most in-demand airport in the World .... An airline's dream come true!!!

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RE: LH Plans Aquisitions In Europe

Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:04 am

Is Brussel Airlines no option? They are a fine target, if you ask me  Smile
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RE: LH Plans Aquisitions In Europe

Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:08 am

Quoting Zillox (Reply 29):
Is Brussel Airlines no option? They are a fine target, if you ask me

I would guess already the geographical location (close to frankfurt) makes it a no-go for Lufthansa. I mean, its not just like a 100km but still to close. Same reason why OS (close to muc) apart from a lot of other reasons will probably be not become a takeover target for LH.

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RE: LH Plans Aquisitions In Europe

Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:16 am

Quoting GlobeEx (Reply 13):
But 40 Flights per day equal 80 movements. Isn't that close to what LHR handels /hour? So close to 5% could well be, couldn't it? So 14% plus ~ 4 comes close to 20% which would be more than a third of BAs capacity.

LHR receives an average of 1150 flights a day, so 80 (LH+LX) corresponds to around 7% + 14% (BD) = 21% of LHR's slots, so that's about right!

Quoting Adicool (Reply 12):
By acquiring BD, *A could FINALLY have a regular service LHR-JFK

For the *A to have flights between LHR-NYC, LH does not need to buy BD. It only needs for BD to start operating them, which will most likely happen from next year.

Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 21):
I think BMI is also the only Star Alliance member in Europe to have their own Frequent Flyers program as alL the other airlines like Swiss, Austrian, LOT, Adria and Croatian use Lufthansa's "Miles&More" program.

At least TP has its own FFP, called Victoria.
 
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RE: LH Plans Aquisitions In Europe

Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:25 am

Quoting Tiago701 (Reply 31):
Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 21):
I think BMI is also the only Star Alliance member in Europe to have their own Frequent Flyers program as alL the other airlines like Swiss, Austrian, LOT, Adria and Croatian use Lufthansa's "Miles&More" program.

At least TP has its own FFP, called Victoria.

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RE: LH Plans Aquisitions In Europe

Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:31 am

Quoting GlobeEx (Reply 13):
But 40 Flights per day equal 80 movements. Isn't that close to what LHR handels /hour? So close to 5% could well be, couldn't it?



Quoting Tiago701 (Reply 31):

LHR receives an average of 1150 flights a day, so 80 (LH+LX) corresponds to around 7% + 14% (BD) = 21% of LHR's slots, so that's about right!

LH has currently 58 movements to LHR and LX has 12.
 
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RE: LH Plans Aquisitions In Europe

Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:06 am

Quoting JoFMO (Reply 33):
LH has currently 58 movements to LHR and LX has 12.

Okay but still. BD/LH/LX would be a very big number at LHR, looking at the fact that even BA holds quite a small percentage of the slots at LHR, given that it is their hub. And the around 20% of flights don't even include all the other *A flights. I'm just guessing, but with the other *A members that could come to more than maybe 30% of the flights at LHR being *A flights.
By taking over BD LH could gain control over a third of traffic going through LHR, which I guess would then be more than 50% of Oneworld's traffic at LHR. Quite impressive!

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RE: LH Plans Aquisitions In Europe

Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:12 am

Just for reason of comparison. LH has 45 daily flights to CDG (90 movements) and LX has 5 (12). Although the amount of regional jets is much higher to Paris. LHR currently has no scheduled regional jet f;lights with LH, even CGN is flown with an 735 these days.
 
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RE: LH Plans Aquisitions In Europe

Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:30 am

Quoting DL777LAX (Reply 5):
Wait, isn't LH still integrating LX into the system?

Actually LX is already more or less integrated to the LH net. The flight plans are coordinated and at most airports their lounges, check-in and other services are together or will be soon. At Moskau LH even changes to DME where LX already flies in. Of course it is not because of LX primarily but if they did not change LX would have had to change back to SVO.

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