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CO 738 In NRT

Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:04 am

what is a Coontinental 737-800 doing at NRT?

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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:06 am

coming back from Guam or Saipan, that's what they send there.
 
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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:12 am

It's a Continental Micronesia plane from Guam or Saipan as indicated above.

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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:12 am

That a/c is operated by Continental Micronesia a.k.a. Air Mike
 
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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:13 am

Air Micronesia is their operation....they use mainline aircraft now without air mike titles.
 
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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:20 am

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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:24 am

Also at Narita, NW had 727-200s in the 90's and now a few A320's....or did a year ago.

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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:36 am

Air Mike used to fly 727s into HKG back in the day as well...

Same reason we see CO 762/738 here at NGO in addition to NW 752.
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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:49 am

CMI (Air Micronesia/Air Mike) aircraft are:

737-800 (73M - CO designated aircraft type)

ship numbers 201, 227, 228, 232, 235, 236, 240, 246 and 249

767-400 (76H - CO designated aircraft type)

ship numbers 62, 63, 64, 65 and 66

This according to our fleet info page on the CO intranet.
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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:24 am

Didn't NW also have the 752 at NRT?

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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:29 am

Quoting Isitsafenow (Reply 6):
Also at Narita, NW had 727-200s in the 90's and now a few A320's....or did a year ago.

The A320s based there were replaced by the 752s.  Smile

Quoting UN_B732 (Reply 9):
Didn't NW also have the 752 at NRT?

Indeed they do, operating to GUM, PUS, CAN, and NGO-SPN.  Wink
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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:38 pm

"what is a Coontinental 737-800 doing at NRT?"

I like how this keeps comming up... everyone in the "Mainland USA" forgets about Guam and the CO mini Hub there...so the 737 goes to HKG, MNL, CNS, DPS, to support Guam Tourists and residents and North South connects from Japan..the 737 is CO 6/7 (737-777-737) GUM-NRT-IAH-SAT RT
 
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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:42 pm

How do the 738s rotate back to the mainland? THrough HNL like the 764s?
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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Mon Aug 27, 2007 3:10 pm

Air Mike serves more destinations in Japan than any other US carrier.
AA: NRT
UA: NRT, NGO, KIX
NW: NRT, NGO, KIX
CO/CS: NRT, NGO, KIX (seasonal), CTS, SDJ, KIJ, OKJ, HIJ, FUK

CO/CS serves Japan from IAH, EWR, HNL, SPN and GUM.

As a result of this network, CO/CS serves more locations in South Pacific Islands than any US carrier.

Quoting N751PR (Reply 10):
Indeed they do, operating to GUM, PUS, CAN, and NGO-SPN.

I have been told that these routes have done well for feeding back to the main network. NGO-SPN starts in NRT so that those needing to get to NGO can either fly DTW-NGO non-stop but if the flight is full, which it is frequently, then one can fly via NRT and connect to NGO that way. Also those flying on DTW-NGO can connect to NGO-SPN or NGO-GUM (CO). I have met many people on DTW-NGO going on to GUM or SPN.

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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Mon Aug 27, 2007 3:18 pm

I'm pretty excited I am going to fly the CO Mike "Island Hopper" next month from HNL-GUM!!
 
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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:28 pm

Quoting Bok269 (Reply 12):
How do the 738s rotate back to the mainland? THrough HNL like the 764s?

They're based on Guam so they don't come back to the mainland during normal operations.

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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:58 pm

Quoting Tdscanuck (Reply 15):
They're based on Guam so they don't come back to the mainland during normal operations.

Do they have a different layout than the domestic ones?
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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:30 pm

Quoting Centrair (Reply 16):
Do they have a different layout than the domestic ones?

Not anymore.

Though some of the B738 aircraft, maybe all the CMI birds, probably have internal air stairs for the remote airports without jetways or even external stairs.

When they are rotated back to the US for maintenance checks which cannot be done in Guam or Honolulu, a regular mainline aircraft will be brought out to fill the fleet.

I flew on the Combi B727 and the DC-6 in the early 70's, but by the early 80's NRT-GUM and all the Guam based aircraft were regular mainline aircraft.

In 1974 when the combi B727 had to go back for maintenance, they brought out a regular Continental B727 - only modifying it with rock guards for the gravel runways. They had to fly the DC-6 for the cargo parts of the runs.
 
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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:47 pm

Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 17):
When they are rotated back to the US for maintenance checks which cannot be done in Guam or Honolulu, a regular mainline aircraft will be brought out to fill the fleet.

I would think they would rotated to HKG where CO has some of their other MX done.
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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:03 pm

They might - I haven't been to that region for several years Sad
 
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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:46 pm

Are these 738's ETOPS certified since they fly over parts of the Pacific?
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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:54 pm

Quoting EA772LR (Reply 20):
Are these 738's ETOPS certified since they fly over parts of the Pacific?

All our 737NG's are ETOPS.
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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:55 pm

Easy question: how does a 738 get from the continental United States to Asia? Is SEA-ANC-NRT possible?
 
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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:00 am

Quoting CoolGuy (Reply 22):
Easy question: how does a 738 get from the continental United States to Asia? Is SEA-ANC-NRT possible?

LAX-HNL-MAJ-GUM is one way.
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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:06 am

Quoting CoolGuy (Reply 22):
Easy question: how does a 738 get from the continental United States to Asia?

The Pacific isn't as big as it seems some times.

The US to Hawaii leg is the longest.

Air Mike flies a regular roundtrip route twice a week from Guam to Honolulu in the B738

PGUM-PTKK-PTPN-PTSA-PKWA-PKMJ-PHNL

On some flights they might skip one of the islands.

The US Army used to fly King Air (RC-12) aircraft Adak-Midway-Wake-Guam-Okinawa-Korea - 1500 nm was the longest leg.
 
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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:56 am

Somewhat off topic, but why no direct service from continental US to Guam? According to Wikipedia, through HNL would be the only option.

I'd imagine Guam isn't a high O&D destination for US mainlanders, but certainly there are many connection opportunities CO doesn't serve directly from IAH or EWR.
 
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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:59 am

Quoting RafflesKing (Reply 25):
Somewhat off topic, but why no direct service from continental US to Guam? According to Wikipedia, through HNL would be the only option.

Flight 6 is direct service. IAH-NRT-GUM (change of aircraft in NRT).
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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:34 am

CO 1 operates 1-stop IAH-GUM via HNL with a 764 and the return is CO 2.

Flight 7 is the westbound change of gauge via NRT and the eastbound is Flight 6

Flight 7 leaves only 1:15 after Flight 1 Via HNL.
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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:46 am

Quoting Asuflyer05 (Reply 14):
I'm pretty excited I am going to fly the CO Mike "Island Hopper" next month from HNL-GUM!!

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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:50 am

Quoting EA772LR (Reply 20):
Are these 738's ETOPS certified since they fly over parts of the Pacific?

Yes. These are maintained with 180 minute ETOPS unlike the mainland ones which are 75 minutes. Different MEL/CDL codes as well (slightly different subcodes).

Quoting Bok269 (Reply 12):
How do the 738s rotate back to the mainland?



Quoting Centrair (Reply 18):
I would think they would rotated to HKG where CO has some of their other MX done

Centrair is right. When the winglets were installed, for instance, they were all flown to HKG instead of going all the way back to MCO. These 9 737s that EWRCabinCrew noted haven't been to the mainland US since their delivery flights. Routine checks are done in GUM itself at their facility.

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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:55 am

Quoting Asuflyer05 (Reply 14):


I'm pretty excited I am going to fly the CO Mike "Island Hopper" next month from HNL-GUM!!

Lucky! I've wanted to do that for years.
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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:44 am

Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 29):
Centrair is right. When the winglets were installed, for instance, they were all flown to HKG instead of going all the way back to MCO. These 9 737s that EWRCabinCrew noted haven't been to the mainland US since their delivery flights. Routine checks are done in GUM itself at their facility.

THanks for the info. Do the 764s make it back to the mainland?
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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:56 am

Quoting Bok269 (Reply 31):
Do the 764s make it back to the mainland?

Every day...They get rotated through HNL, LAX, IAH, EWR and even make it over to European destinations sometimes when the loads and rotations allow. Ship 066, for instance, is heading to MAD at the moment.

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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:59 am

Quoting Bok269 (Reply 31):
Do the 764s make it back to the mainland?


They Operate GUM-HNL-IAH (Houston-Intercontinental) everyday.

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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:11 am

Thanks. Anyshot that the CM 764s operate CO14 HNL-EWR?
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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:21 am

Quoting Bok269 (Reply 34):
Anyshot that the CM 764s operate CO14 HNL-EWR?

For September, according to our bid packet, the CMI (also known as the 76H (or Hawaii) configuration (20/236) aircraft operate flight 14 (HNL-EWR) on Sundays. It operates flight 15 (EWR-HNL) on Mondays. They operate flight 62 (EWR-MAD) everyday but Sunday and flight 63 (MAD-EWR) everyday but Monday.
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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:11 pm

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 35):

For September, according to our bid packet, the CMI (also known as the 76H (or Hawaii) configuration (20/236) aircraft operate flight 14 (HNL-EWR) on Sundays. It operates flight 15 (EWR-HNL) on Mondays. They operate flight 62 (EWR-MAD) everyday but Sunday and flight 63 (MAD-EWR) everyday but Monday.

What about during August?
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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:34 pm

Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 29):
These 9 737s that EWRCabinCrew noted haven't been to the mainland US since their delivery flights. Routine checks are done in GUM itself at their facility.

Are you 100% certain of this? I'll have to check my reg book, but I am certain to have seen one of those ETOPS 738s on the mainland.
 
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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:54 pm

Quoting Carpethead (Reply 37):
I am certain to have seen one of those ETOPS 738s on the mainland.

All of our 738s are ETOPS. They are Air Mike dedicated. The closest they go to the mainland US is HNL.
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RE: CO 738 In NRT

Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:32 pm

Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 17):
Though some of the B738 aircraft, maybe all the CMI birds, probably have internal air stairs for the remote airports without jetways or even external stairs.

Only the 727s had them but eventually, all the Pacific islands gained airstairs. Out of the ones still using the stairs, ROR updated to a jetway though when a second jet is in town, only one gets the jetway.

Quoting RafflesKing (Reply 25):
Somewhat off topic, but why no direct service from continental US to Guam?

Currently, there is no non-stop service but there is an influx of Marines from Okinawa expected in the coming years and that will certainly call for more personnel from the mainland (contractors, government officials, family, etc.) so perhaps a nonstop will make sense later on. The last rumor off the board was GUM-LAX and that could support local traffic. A fair number of locals have migrated to Los Angeles and the surrounding areas so having at least a 1x or even 2x weekly service could make sense especially during the summer. Other than that, HNL is really the only nonstop link to the 50 States that we'll have for now. Better than nothing, if you ask me.

Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 24):
On some flights they might skip one of the islands.

Currently, CS 951 flies GUM-MAJ-HNL and 952 does the opposite. The flight helps loosen the congestion on CS 2 making the connecting time to flights 72, 14, and 12 a little shorter. I think this flight operates for half a year and then it switches to GUM-KWJ-HNL. Either way, it's a one-stopper to HNL on a 738.
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