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A380 Next Deliveries

Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:57 pm

with the first plane due on October 15th, when will we see the next deliveries of A380s and to which customers?
how many planes are already flying and how many more fully assembled? Anyone with info?
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RE: A380 Next Deliveries

Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:37 pm

Well Emirates first A380-861, Test reg F-WWSH and final reg A6-EDA is moving under it's own power at TLS.

http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=665663

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RE: A380 Next Deliveries

Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:39 pm

How many 380s have been built so far?
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RE: A380 Next Deliveries

Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:47 pm

Quoting 777STL (Reply 2):
How many 380s have been built so far?

Depends what you mean by "built" as there's complete and ready for delivery that's only 1 but I think that there's about another 15 that look like A380s ie with wings and that. I remember about 18 months ago Leahy said that the first parts for the 32nd aircraft were being fabricated so I'm guessing that parts for 50 planes exist !

The next 3 planes for SQ are currently in Hamburg for rewiring and, as shown above, the first one for EK looks like it's ready to go for painting and interior - assuming that the re-wiring has been done in TLS rather than in Germany?
 
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RE: A380 Next Deliveries

Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:26 pm

Assuming Airbus is in a position to do serial deliveries, once SQ receives MSN003 this year, in 2008:

  • SQ will receive up to five additional planes
  • EK will receive up to six planes
  • QF will receive up to two

I am not sure if EY's four planes will be ready in 2008 (they're built, but they're all test-program birds so they need all the test equipment removed and then their cabins installed and possibly re-wired). If they are, then some of the SQ/EK/QF deliveries will likely be pushed back to 2009.
 
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RE: A380 Next Deliveries

Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:44 pm

Quoting Stitch (Reply 4):

I am not sure if EY's four planes will be ready in 2008 (they're built, but they're all test-program birds so they need all the test equipment removed and then their cabins installed and possibly re-wired). If they are, then some of the SQ/EK/QF deliveries will likely be pushed back to 2009.

Didnt EY defer deliveries of their aircraft earlier this year?
 
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RE: A380 Next Deliveries

Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:50 pm

Quoting Moo (Reply 5):
Didnt EY defer deliveries of their aircraft earlier this year?

They might have. That would give the folks in Hamburg more time to get SQ, EK and QF birds out in 2008 since the EY refurbs will take some time, I imagine.
 
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RE: A380 Next Deliveries

Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:05 pm

Quoting Stitch (Reply 6):
They might have.

Just confirmed it, they deferred until 2013. I wonder if Airbus will keep their aircraft around for 5 years or if they will see if another airline will take them.
 
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RE: A380 Next Deliveries

Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:46 pm

Quoting Moo (Reply 7):

Just confirmed it, they deferred until 2013. I wonder if Airbus will keep their aircraft around for 5 years or if they will see if another airline will take them.

If I had to speculate, I would say that Kingfisher would be the most likely candidate to grab those test frames. They have recently expressed their interest in acquiring an earlier delivery date for their A380's (2009) and it would seem that it would be an ideal opportunity for Airbus if Kingfisher were to take hold of these frames.

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RE: A380 Next Deliveries

Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:50 pm

Or could these be the order for 4 that EK placed in Feb/March this year?
 
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RE: A380 Next Deliveries

Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:54 pm

Quoting Moo (Reply 7):
Just confirmed it, they deferred until 2013. I wonder if Airbus will keep their aircraft around for 5 years or if they will see if another airline will take them.

There is no way Airbus will let five A388s sit on the ground, so they're going somewhere. WING's suggestion for IT seems as good as any.
 
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RE: A380 Next Deliveries

Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:18 am

Quoting Stitch (Reply 10):
There is no way Airbus will let five A388s sit on the ground, so they're going somewhere. WING's suggestion for IT seems as good as any.

I heared rumours that these planes are to being used to persuade BA to order the A380. If BA orders the A380, they can lease those 5 frames for very convenient prices and add the planes earlier than 2012.

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RE: A380 Next Deliveries

Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:01 am

Quoting LifelinerOne (Reply 11):
I heared rumours that these planes are to being used to persuade BA to order the A380. If BA orders the A380, they can lease those 5 frames for very convenient prices and add the planes earlier than 2012.

Where did you hear these rumours? Interesting theory. They also are RR right?

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RE: A380 Next Deliveries

Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:16 am

Quoting GlobeEx (Reply 12):
Quoting LifelinerOne (Reply 11):
I heared rumours that these planes are to being used to persuade BA to order the A380. If BA orders the A380, they can lease those 5 frames for very convenient prices and add the planes earlier than 2012.

Where did you hear these rumours? Interesting theory. They also are RR right?

GlobeEx

Who would lease the planes ??

Does BA need such planes befor 2012 ??

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RE: A380 Next Deliveries

Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:29 am

Here is the production list of the first A380. Dates indicated are the dates of the first flight.

msn 1 380-841 Airbus Industrie 27/04/2005 F-WWOW Active
msn 2 380-841 Airbus Industrie 04/11/2005 F-WXXL Active
msn 3 380-841 Singapore Airlines 07/05/2006 9V-SKA On order - to be delivered in October 2007
msn 4 380-841 Airbus Industrie 18/10/2005 F-WWDD Active
msn 5 380-841 Singapore Airlines 19/07/2006 9V-SKB On order
msn 6 380-841 Singapore Airlines 17/11/2006 9V-SKC On order
msn 7 380-841 Airbus Industrie 19/02/2006 F-WWJB On order
msn 8 380-841 Singapore Airlines 19/03/2007 9V-SKD On order
msn 9 380-861 Airbus Industrie 25/08/2006 F-WWEA Active
msn 10 380-841 Singapore Airlines 9V- On order
msn 11 380-841 Emirates A6-EDA On order
msn 12 380-841 Singapore Airlines 9V- On order
msn 13 380-861 Emirates A6- On order
msn 14 380-800 Qantas VH- On order
msn 15 380-841 Qantas VH- On order
msn 17 380-861 Air France F-HPJA On order - to be delivered in March 2009.
msn 18 380-861 Malaysia Airlines 9M- On order
msn 22 380-800 Malaysia Airlines 9M- On order
msn 23 380-861 Air France F-HPJB On order - to be delivered in May 2009.
 
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RE: A380 Next Deliveries

Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:36 am

My original data shows MSN-017 and MSN-023 were for EK. Did EK defer delivery to allow AF to take them?
 
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RE: A380 Next Deliveries

Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:40 am

FlySSC,

What does Active and On Order mean?
 
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RE: A380 Next Deliveries

Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:42 am

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 14):
msn 11 380-841 Emirates A6-EDA On order
msn 12 380-841 Singapore Airlines 9V- On order
msn 13 380-861 Emirates A6- On order

Which engine type is Emirates getting? 841 or 861?
 
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RE: A380 Next Deliveries

Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:39 am

Quoting United787 (Reply 16):
What does Active and On Order mean?

Active = aircraft built, and flying.

On Order = firmed order, still to be built.

-841 = Trent 970
-861 = GP7270

Quoting Stitch (Reply 15):
Did EK defer delivery to allow AF to take them?

Actually, I think EK did not defer deliverey to allow AF to take them ....AF took them because EK deferred delivery
 
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RE: A380 Next Deliveries

Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:08 am

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 18):
Actually, I think EK did not defer deliverey to allow AF to take them ....AF took them because EK deferred delivery

Got it.

Quoting United787 (Reply 17):
Which engine type is Emirates getting? 841 or 861?

All of EK's planes should be GP7270-powered -861s.
 
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RE: A380 Next Deliveries

Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:37 am

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 14):
msn 9 380-861 Airbus Industrie 25/08/2006 F-WWEA Active

As I understand it, isn't this bird officially an A380-841? I thought it was to be converted to RR power and delivered that way...the EA power was "temporary" in order to jumpstart the certification with the Engine Alliance powerplants.
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RE: A380 Next Deliveries

Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:45 am

On Order = firmed order, still to be built.

could this also be interpreted as built or partially built. As I have seen an QF A380 already built with QF painted tail but fuselage still not painted.
 
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RE: A380 Next Deliveries

Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:54 am

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 20):
isn't this bird officially an A380-841? I thought it was to be converted to RR power

Just a few weeks ago, in July 2007, F-WWEA msn 009 was still powered by EA engines, so still an A380-861
 
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RE: A380 Next Deliveries

Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:22 am

Didn't Air France put off their planes till 2013?

Also any news on ILFC being able to place any of their frames? They have a few years to go before they have to cancel, but IMO they are by far the most likely to cancel.
 
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RE: A380 Next Deliveries

Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:35 am

Quoting XT6Wagon (Reply 23):
Didn't Air France put off their planes till 2013?

VS did. I don't recall AF deferring any deliveries.
 
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RE: A380 Next Deliveries

Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:32 pm

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 14):
msn 7 380-841 Airbus Industrie 19/02/2006 F-WWJB On order

Should be 'active'.

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 14):
msn 3 380-841 Singapore Airlines 07/05/2006 9V-SKA On order - to be delivered in October 2007



Quoting FlySSC (Reply 18):
On Order = firmed order, still to be built.

 scratchchin  seems rather built to me...

Quoting Macc (Thread starter):
how many planes are already flying and how many more fully assembled?

Nine currently flown, soon to be ten (MSN011), probably within the next week.

Oversize road convoys have now delivered enough structural sections to the final assembly line to build 20 complete airframes (not including the structural test airframe). Some are being built out of sequence, since there is word of MSN026 being assembled already. The latest convoy arrived in Toulouse today, and all convoys for 2007 have tracked the schedule exactly, suggesting that there are no new schedule problems. The next two convoys are planned for October... they better get some birds in the air to make some space!
 
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RE: A380 Next Deliveries

Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:07 pm

I understand that delivery of the first tranche (ten aircraft) of SQ's WhaleJets is now expected to be complete in 2009. When is delivery scheduled for SQ's second tranche (nine aircraft)?
 
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RE: A380 Next Deliveries

Fri Aug 31, 2007 4:44 pm

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 14):

Where did you get this info from? Interesting list!!!!

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RE: A380 Next Deliveries

Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:07 pm

Quoting Stitch (Reply 24):
VS did. I don't recall AF deferring any deliveries.

After the 2nd A380 delay, AF deferred there deliveries to prevent a "3rd A380" delay.. so other airlines jumped the queue ahead of AF. Then Airbus announced a 3rd delay anyway.
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RE: A380 Next Deliveries

Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:31 pm

Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 9):
Or could these be the order for 4 that EK placed in Feb/March this year?

I have

Quoting WingedMigrator (Reply 25):

Nine currently flown, soon to be ten (MSN011), probably within the next week.

Oversize road convoys have now delivered enough structural sections to the final assembly line to build 20 complete airframes (not including the structural test airframe). Some are being built out of sequence, since there is word of MSN026 being assembled already. The latest convoy arrived in Toulouse today, and all convoys for 2007 have tracked the schedule exactly, suggesting that there are no new schedule problems. The next two convoys are planned for October... they better get some birds in the air to make some space!

Thanks for that.  Smile I have recently lost track with what is going on at Toulouse.

Quoting StarGoldLHR (Reply 28):

After the 2nd A380 delay, AF deferred there deliveries to prevent a "3rd A380" delay.. so other airlines jumped the queue ahead of AF. Then Airbus announced a 3rd delay anyway.

Wasn't ILFC also to take some early delivery slots?

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RE: A380 Next Deliveries

Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:58 pm

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 14):
msn 14 380-800 Qantas VH- On order
msn 15 380-841 Qantas VH- On order

I have just come back from Sydney airport and QF must be fairly irritated at seeing Singapore 380 ads and models all over the place. I wonder when 14 and 15 will be close enough to delivery for QF to return fire!

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RE: A380 Next Deliveries

Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:59 pm

Just noticed this on F-WWSH

Why has it got Pre painted Airbus House Livery Emergency Slide covers?

http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=666203

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RE: A380 Next Deliveries

Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:14 pm

Quoting AirbusA346 (Reply 31):

Why has it got Pre painted Airbus House Livery Emergency Slide covers?

Looks like it came off another aircraft - possibly only installed on MSN011 for the trip to Hamburg?
 
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RE: A380 Next Deliveries

Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:14 pm

Quoting XT6Wagon (Reply 23):
Didn't Air France put off their planes till 2013?



Quoting Stitch (Reply 24):
I don't recall AF deferring any deliveries.

Air France will be the first European airline to fly the A380 and F-HPJA is due to be delivered for the summer program 2009 starting April 2009, with F-HPJB following not long after. A third aircraft should be delivered by the end of 2009.

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 18):
Active = aircraft built, and flying.



Quoting WingedMigrator (Reply 25):
Quoting FlySSC (Reply 14):
msn 7 380-841 Airbus Industrie 19/02/2006 F-WWJB On order

Should be "active".

I apologize for this misunderstanding. I didn't explain correctly.

ACTIVE mean that the aircraft is built, delivered, and flying (for its owner). Which means that, for the A380, only the planes used by Airbus are marked "Active", as none of them has been delivered yet to an airline.
 
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RE: A380 Next Deliveries

Sat Sep 01, 2007 2:40 am

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 14):
Here is the production list of the first A380.

Your list is in error a little, some of the frames you have marked Airbus Industrie are going to EY.

Next year the plan is for 13 aircraft to be delivered, 2009 25, ontop of this years deliveries, that is according to the last public statement by Airbus on the matter in Feb of this year. AFAIK the 38 planned deliveries in 2008/09 do not include the refurbished aircraft going to EY.

The production plan is for only SQ, QF, EK, and EY to get aircraft in 2007/08/09.

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RE: A380 Next Deliveries

Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:19 am

Quoting WingedMigrator (Reply 25):
The next two convoys are planned for October... they better get some birds in the air to make some space!

Msn. 12-15 are due to leave the hangar soon. That will make some space.
 
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RE: A380 Next Deliveries

Sat Sep 01, 2007 2:04 pm

Quoting Zeke (Reply 34):
some of the frames you have marked Airbus Industrie are going to EY.

We've come full circle.... EY has deferred their deliveries to 2013. See replies 7 through 11.

In other news, I've seen clues that MSN011 (the first Emirates frame) will make her maiden flight on Monday.
 
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RE: A380 Next Deliveries

Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:05 pm

Quoting WingedMigrator (Reply 36):
EY has deferred their deliveries to 2013. See replies 7 through 11.

They were originally meant to go to EY once Airbus had finished with them.

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RE: A380 Next Deliveries

Sat Sep 01, 2007 10:22 pm

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MSN 003 (SQ): arriving in TLS after finishing the works in XFW to be delivered to SQ in October 2007.


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MSN 005 (SQ): currently in XFW. Last picture more than one year ago (not only airliners.net, I googled for F-WWSB but didn%u2019t find anything) !!!!


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MSN 006 (SQ): exactly the same


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MSN 008 (SQ): currently in XFW


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MSN 010 (SQ):


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