QF175
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JAL 747-400s To Brisbane

Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:46 am

Effective SUN 28OCT 07, Japan Airlines will replace 747-300s with 747-400s on its NRT-BNE-NRT services. If my information serves me correctly, this will also mean that JAL International will replace JALways to Brisbane.

Does anyone know why JL are moving to 747-400s on Brisbane services? Is it simply to bring us into line with Sydney or provide some sort of consistency with the Australian product? Now if my information serves me correctly again, I believe Skyluxe J seats will be on offer on BNE services and not the Executive shell seats - if true are there any plans to introduce these seats on SYD/BNE services?

I will certainly miss seeing the classics, in particular JA8186 - Reso'cha in Brisbane...


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paladin87
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RE: JAL 747-400s To Brisbane

Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:14 am

Are they fazing out the 747-300s?
 
777way
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RE: JAL 747-400s To Brisbane

Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:55 am

JAL could be transferring some 744s to JALways or JAL aircraft will be operating these flights for JALways.
 
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RE: JAL 747-400s To Brisbane

Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:25 am

Quoting 777way (Reply 2):
JAL could be transferring some 744s to JALways or JAL aircraft will be operating these flights for JALways.

I believe they are doing both. 77Ws are replacing some 744s on JAL routes, 743s are being retired, 744s are flying for JALways. Natural progression.
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RE: JAL 747-400s To Brisbane

Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:35 am

That brings up another question for me:
is QF still sending their remaining 747-300s to NRT from SYD? I remember, back in 2005, it was the only route (expect for an occasional SYD-AKL) where they used the 743. Was there a special reason for that?
 
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RE: JAL 747-400s To Brisbane

Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:15 am

The move to 744 will mean the cockpit crew will be JL and flight attendants Jalways. No Jalways 744 cockpit crews yet.

Quoting PA101 (Reply 4):
is QF still sending their remaining 747-300s to NRT from SYD?

No longer. It is now done by an A333.
 
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RE: JAL 747-400s To Brisbane

Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:19 pm

Quoting QF175 (Thread starter):
this will also mean that JAL International will replace JALways to Brisbane.

I flew JL BNE-NRT in JAN and it was JAL not -ways

Quoting QF175 (Thread starter):
Does anyone know why JL are moving to 747-400s on Brisbane services?

Why not?
 
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RE: JAL 747-400s To Brisbane

Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:23 pm

@carpethead
No longer. It is now done by an A333.

Ah - didn't know that! Thanks for the update!
 
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RE: JAL 747-400s To Brisbane

Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:46 pm

Will also miss seeing the irregular appearance by the quickly disappearing 747-200 that JL flew in occassionally, and 747-300 that was the most common. I saw one of these earlier this year on the 10th of March, and do occassionally see them out of my office window on climb when taking off over the Brisbane river. Will miss seeing the 742 when they eventually leave the skies.
 
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RE: JAL 747-400s To Brisbane

Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:27 pm

Quoting TruemanQLD (Reply 6):
I flew JL BNE-NRT in JAN and it was JAL not -ways

it was JALways, but you wouldn't have known about it.
It's a similar situation to what QF operated after AO folded.
AO crew, but QF uniforms etc etc.

9:30p NRT 2 7:05a+1 BNE I JO 761 Non-stop 747 8:35
9:30p NRT 2 7:05a+1 BNE I *JL 761 Non-stop 747 8:35

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RE: JAL 747-400s To Brisbane

Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:59 pm

So where will they fly their B 747-300s to? Asia as well as Hawaii?
 
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RE: JAL 747-400s To Brisbane

Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:03 am

Quoting PA101 (Reply 4):
is QF still sending their remaining 747-300s to NRT from SYD? I remember, back in 2005, it was the only route (expect for an occasional SYD-AKL) where they used the 743. Was there a special reason for that?

The B743 were moved elsewhere now. NRT SYD service is on a A333 now.
 
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RE: JAL 747-400s To Brisbane

Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:45 am

Now that JAL is OneWorld and QF is sending SkyBeds to NRT from PER/MEL/SYD (sometimes a 767 gets assigned but more often then not the schedule is nor for A333s from most of Australia to Narita on Qantas) let' s hope JAL will upgrade its products to Australia. In the past, they have advertised the new first class (we had a sample JAL F pod seat in the lobby of our office tower in Sydney for months) but have chosen to fly the antique fleet interiors. Would be a good 77W route eventually (NRT-SYD).
 
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RE: JAL 747-400s To Brisbane

Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:42 am

Quoting PA101 (Reply 4):
is QF still sending their remaining 747-300s to NRT from SYD? I remember, back in 2005, it was the only route (expect for an occasional SYD-AKL) where they used the 743. Was there a special reason for that?

Service was upgraded to an A333 roughly 2 years ago... Not sure if you wanna call it an upgrade considering the A333
is configured 30J/267Y compared to 52J/398Y...

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RE: JAL 747-400s To Brisbane

Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:12 pm

Quoting EK413 (Reply 13):
Service was upgraded to an A333 roughly 2 years ago... Not sure if you wanna call it an upgrade considering the A333
is configured 30J/267Y compared to 52J/398Y...

An upgraded down-gauge?  Smile
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RE: JAL 747-400s To Brisbane

Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:46 pm

JAL website shows the following served by JL planes for other airlines:

Kaohsiung operated for Japan Asia Airways
Bangkok/Denpasar/Jakarta/Sydney operated for JALways, plus Delhi from October.
Most JALways services to Guam, Honolulu and Kailua-Kona.