nuggetsyl
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737-900 Going Transcon Tonight

Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:20 am

I was shocked to see the 7:10 to lax tonight is a 737-900!!! I have flown it to las weight restricted so i cant see how it can make it to lax tonight?
 
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RE: 737-900 Going Transcon Tonight

Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:24 am

On who, from where, you need a bit more information before we make and judgement...
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RE: 737-900 Going Transcon Tonight

Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:25 am

Are we talking Continental, Alaska, just curious of the airline and the 7:10 from where ?

Thanks

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RE: 737-900 Going Transcon Tonight

Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:29 am

I don't think that is much of a surprise, the -900er has a range of 3,200 nautical miles (5,925 km) - two-class layout, 2 aux. tanks 2,700 nautical miles - one class layout (per the Boeing website).
 
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RE: 737-900 Going Transcon Tonight

Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:30 am

AS had them regularly scheduled for transcons when they first came on board. Occasionaly caused problems westbound, but nothing new.
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RE: 737-900 Going Transcon Tonight

Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:36 am

The winds have been light to none this past week.

Actually it's taken anywhere from 15-20 minutes longer to go East than West. My LAX-PHL red-eye on 8/28 took 5 hours, where my PHL-LAX yesterday took 4:45. Seems like a reverse of the normal wind pattern/jet stream.
 
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RE: 737-900 Going Transcon Tonight

Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:36 am

Quoting Chris133 (Reply 3):
I don't think that is much of a surprise, the -900er has a range of 3,200 nautical miles (5,925 km) - two-class layout, 2 aux. tanks 2,700 nautical miles - one class layout (per the Boeing website).

Can't be a -900er...

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RE: 737-900 Going Transcon Tonight

Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:46 am

I believe the SEA-MCO flight on AS was originally a 737-900 when the route was launched (now a 737-800).
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RE: 737-900 Going Transcon Tonight

Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:11 am

Quoting Nuggetsyl (Thread starter):
I was shocked to see the 7:10 to lax tonight is a 737-900!!! I have flown it to las weight restricted so i cant see how it can make it to lax tonight?

This has already been done before, nothing new...see below....

Quoting Flynavy (Reply 7):
I believe the SEA-MCO flight on AS was originally a 737-900 when the route was launched (now a 737-800).

 checkmark  CO has done it with the IAH-ANC route, I believe.
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RE: 737-900 Going Transcon Tonight

Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:30 am

He's talking about Continental Airlines flight 1502 EWR-LAX tonight departing at 7:10pm.

The 739 has the range to do it. With strong winds or when the load is high, then the plane can struggle to make the route. But this isn't completely new. AS went to the 738 because it had more practial operating range. The figures on Boeing's website are representative of the best case condition with no winds.

It is definitely not a 739ER since only 5 have been built and all have gone to Lion Air in Indonesia.
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RE: 737-900 Going Transcon Tonight

Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:39 am

Shorter transcons like EWR-LAX would rarely cause a problem for the 739A in the summer. AS's seasonal second SEA-BOS-SEA flight has been a 739A for a couple of years. It hasn't had anything like the troubles that AS had when they tried to do SEA-MCO-SEA year round with the 739A.

Given the frequently ridiculous demand, I'm surprised that AS doesn't operate SEA-DCA-SEA with 739s in the summer.

[Edited 2007-09-05 23:43:20]
 
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RE: 737-900 Going Transcon Tonight

Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:27 am

Quoting Flynavy (Reply 7):
I believe the SEA-MCO flight on AS was originally a 737-900 when the route was launched (now a 737-800).

SEA-MIA was operated with the 739 for awhile as well. Again, transcon 739s are nothing to get too excited about.
 
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RE: 737-900 Going Transcon Tonight

Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:42 am

I just wonder of CO and AS will eventually add the 739ER to their respective fleets or not. I hope they will....
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RE: 737-900 Going Transcon Tonight

Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:47 am

CO already have quite a few 900ERs on order which will probably start being delievered within the next year.

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RE: 737-900 Going Transcon Tonight

Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:00 am

IIRC, 12 of the 30 737s to be delivered to CO in 2008 will be -900ERs. But I could be wrong and I didn't take the time to look it up.
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RE: 737-900 Going Transcon Tonight

Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:20 am

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 8):
CO has done it with the IAH-ANC route, I believe.

Absolutely correct, in fact IIRC during the summer season they had 3 daily IAH-ANC non-stops on the 738's.

[Edited 2007-09-06 01:21:10]
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RE: 737-900 Going Transcon Tonight

Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:02 am

Quoting FlyHoss (Reply 14):
IIRC, 12 of the 30 737s to be delivered to CO in 2008 will be -900ERs. But I could be wrong and I didn't take the time to look it up.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought I read in one of CO's recent reports that they are going to take delivery of 18 737-900ERs in 2008.
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RE: 737-900 Going Transcon Tonight

Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:59 pm

Strange...

737:s on 6 hour flights is every day business in Europe on charter flights
to for example Canary Islands.

And we do not even think about it.
 
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RE: 737-900 Going Transcon Tonight

Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:30 pm

Quote:
Strange...

737:s on 6 hour flights is every day business in Europe on charter flights
to for example Canary Islands.

And we do not even think about it.

 checkmark 

But not necessarily 739s, usually 737-800 units with turkish, UK charter airlines etc.

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RE: 737-900 Going Transcon Tonight

Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:08 pm

Quoting ThePRGuy (Reply 18):
But not necessarily 739s, usually 737-800 units with turkish, UK charter airlines etc.

Apart from that, EWR-LAS is a whole lot further than many European routes anyway.
If your compare TFN-DUB or TFN-NRN (1560nm and 1716nm resp) both operated with 738 to EWR-LAS (1935nm) you will get the point.
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RE: 737-900 Going Transcon Tonight

Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:50 pm

Quoting Seabosdca (Reply 10):
Given the frequently ridiculous demand, I'm surprised that AS doesn't operate SEA-DCA-SEA with 739s in the summer.

Because of the runway length in DCA and other issues the 739 can't make it all the way to SEA with a useful load of fuel/pax. It has been done a few times but that flight would usually make a flagstop in DEN though on a one occasion they made it to GEG for the flagstop for fuel.
 
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RE: 737-900 Going Transcon Tonight

Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:13 pm

Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 17):

737:s on 6 hour flights is every day business in Europe on charter flights
to for example Canary Islands.

And we do not even think about it.

Yet everyone seems to complain about a 6 hour flight across the pond in a 757?
 
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RE: 737-900 Going Transcon Tonight

Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:42 pm

Quoting Corey07850 (Reply 21):
Yet everyone seems to complain about a 6 hour flight across the pond in a 757?


Usually the people in C-class.
 Smile

Ps. Stockholm-Las Palmas is 2333 nautical miles and it
is many flights per week with 737-800. Ds.
 
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RE: 737-900 Going Transcon Tonight

Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:33 pm

Hi,
Right now on flightaware AS25 from BOS to SEA in a 739:
Live 739 FlightAware
Greetings
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RE: 737-900 Going Transcon Tonight

Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:47 pm

Quoting XAAPB (Reply 23):
Hi,
Right now on flightaware AS25 from BOS to SEA in a 739:
Live 739 FlightAware
Greetings

...and it also looks like they blocked 16 seats for weight and balance (not counting the last row of seats blocked).

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RE: 737-900 Going Transcon Tonight

Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:52 pm

Quoting ASMD11 (Reply 20):
runway length in DCA

(slaps head) duh... should have thought of that.  blush 
 
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RE: 737-900 Going Transcon Tonight

Fri Sep 07, 2007 1:16 am

I like how the OP posts some uninforming garbage post with no discriptions, then hits the road with no further words.

[Edited 2007-09-06 18:17:59]
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RE: 737-900 Going Transcon Tonight

Fri Sep 07, 2007 1:35 am

For the record, the flight in question, CO 1502, left the gate early at 1908, took off at 2010, landed at 2224 and got to the gate at 2233, 7 minutes late.

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RE: 737-900 Going Transcon Tonight

Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:14 am

Quoting JetsGo (Reply 26):
I like how the OP posts some uninforming garbage post with no discriptions, then hits the road with no further words.

This tactic if more formally known as: "hit 'n run" Big grin
 
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RE: 737-900 Going Transcon Tonight

Fri Sep 07, 2007 6:41 am

AS just did it last week ferrying the Washington Huskies Football team to SYR on a 739.
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RE: 737-900 Going Transcon Tonight

Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:45 pm

Quoting Typhaerion (Reply 1):
On who, from where, you need a bit more information before we make and judgement...

sorry I typed it and ran. It was continental ewr to lax
 
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RE: 737-900 Going Transcon Tonight

Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:00 pm

OS has a regular flight from DXB-VIE, which clocks in at about 6 hours. They use a 737-800 for the route.
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