Phoenix9
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Runway Use At The Airports

Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:16 pm

Hello everyone! I just joined the A.Net community and first would like to say Hello to fellow A.Netters!!

Now on to my question:

How do I find out which runway is being used at the airports for take off and landing? YYZ is my closest airport (still an hour drive) and sometimes I end up at the wrong end and can't take any good pictures. I've tried calling the airport info line but to no help. Any other ways? Any help will be greatly appreciated!

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AirTranTUS
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RE: Runway Use At The Airports

Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:24 pm

Does ATIS (Automatic Terminal Information Service) have a phone number you can call. I know at many airports in the US, you can call up the ATIS recording which has the weather observation from the top of the hour along with runways in use. I don't know if Canada also has this. The numbers for US airports are in Airport Facilities Directories (AFD's) which can be bought at any flight school. Again, I don't know about Canadian private pilot resources, so it may or may not be there, if it is available by phone at all.
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RE: Runway Use At The Airports

Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:56 pm

Welcome to A.net!

As AirTranTUS mentioned, probably the easiest way is to call the ATIS number if there is a phone number associated with it, or get a scanner and as you approach the airport listen to an approach control frequency or tower frequency to figure out which runways are being used for takeoff/landing. You should also be able to hear the ATIS broadcast as you approach the airport as well to get the active runway information.

Best of luck and again, welcome to A.net.
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RE: Runway Use At The Airports

Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:06 pm

Or you could listen to the APP/DEP/TWR channel on Live ATC, or get the weather report to see which way the winds are coming from. (Usually works for the East West rwys' but not so much for the North South, since they only use them when the winds are quite strong (+15K)

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rfields5421
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RE: Runway Use At The Airports

Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:18 pm

A scanner is the cheapest and best purchase a spotter can make. You will want to program buttons for ATIS, the tower and approach frequencies. With gas prices today it only takes being at the wrong end a few times to make up the cost of the scanner.

Most airports and air spaces have a "light and variable winds" runway(s) which are used in wind conditions under 8 or 12 kts. The airport charts should tell you that information - or a section on the airport web site for GA pilots.

Turning an airport like CYYZ is a complex task which isn't done with every little wind shift. But with an hour drive to the airport, it can be turned from when you check the internet before you arrive. You really need a scanner.
 
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RE: Runway Use At The Airports

Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:52 pm

Thanks for the info guys! I'll get a scanner first! I'm quite new at this so still working out everything!
I really appreciate your help.
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RE: Runway Use At The Airports

Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:55 pm

Any scanners recomended, perhaps at the lower end of the money scale?

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InnocuousFox
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RE: Runway Use At The Airports

Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:56 am

There's really only going to be 3 or 4 different patterns at CYYZ. Lick your finger and stick it up. They will run the pattern facing into the wind.
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RE: Runway Use At The Airports

Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:02 am

Quoting InnocuousFox (Reply 7):
There's really only going to be 3 or 4 different patterns at CYYZ. Lick your finger and stick it up. They will run the pattern facing into the wind.

Not too reliable at YYZ. The E-W runways have preference over the N-S pair, and if winds are relatively light and in line with 33 or 15 they may still be using 05/06 or 23/24. Then there are different combinations of arrival and departure runways.
 
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RE: Runway Use At The Airports

Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:41 am

Quoting BHD (Reply 6):
Any scanners recomended, perhaps at the lower end of the money scale?

Do they have Radio Shack in Canada?

That's the first place I'd recommend you look.
 
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RE: Runway Use At The Airports

Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:59 am

You can usually find a ton of them on Ebay. Especially from people whose local fire and police are going to trunked systems thereby rendering typical scanners obsolete. That's how I got mine (Radio Shack Pro-89). Cost me $50 about 6 years back. There's a few out there right now.
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