kl911
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A-380 As A Holiday Charter

Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:55 pm

I was just thinking, when the 747 had proven itself it was and is widely used as a holiday charter, short and longhaul. Look for example at the KLM 747 from AMS to Tenerife and the PanAm 747 from the USA to Tenerife, a sad example that is....

Will the A-380 eventually be used by the likes of Corsair and TuiFly on very high density holiday routes? And what would be the minimum distance flown for making this plane operate effectively?

This ofcourse all depending of airports capable of handling the A-380. But remember that they said that the 747 was way to big for airports, and now most holiday destinations can accomodate 747's, although not fully loaded, which is no problem for short and mediumhaul flights.

Another great example woulde be the famous European cup football finals where you often see 40 planes on a single day transporting fans to the city where the final is held, often with a few 747's as well.

What are your thoughts about this? Guess we'll have to wait for the first second hand A380?

KL911

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Joost
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RE: A-380 As A Holiday Charter

Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:10 pm

For regular holiday charters, I think wel still have to wait for a long time. But for occasional charters for sport events, I think we might see them pretty soon. Air France is using it's 772s on ORY-NCE during the Monaco Formula 1 Grand Prix - so why not the A380?
 
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RE: A-380 As A Holiday Charter

Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:23 pm

Quoting KL911 (Thread starter):
Look for example at the KLM 747 from AMS to Tenerife and the PanAm 747 from the USA to Tenerife, a sad example that is....

Yea but they were still big scheduled airlines. I'd rather look at Excel (Travel City Direct) and Corsair like you mentioned! Less despressin.
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RE: A-380 As A Holiday Charter

Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:44 am

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 2):
I'd rather look at Excel (Travel City Direct) and Corsair like you mentioned! Less despressin.

Less roomy too. I think Corsair puts more than 500 pax in their 747, if I'm not mistaken.
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RE: A-380 As A Holiday Charter

Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:52 am

Quoting Joost (Reply 1):
Air France is using it's 772s on ORY-NCE during the Monaco Formula 1 Grand Prix

Air France is using its Orly based B777-300ER on ORY-NCE, but also on ORY-BIA.
These are not charter services but regular flights to provide extra capacity on the route, not only for big events like the Monaco Grand Prix or Cannes Film Festival, but all along the high summer season.

Though not Charter services either, Emirates plans to configure some of its A380 is a high density version ( + 600 Pax) for flights to India, so why not Corsair/TUI or any other big T.O in the future, when some second hand A380 will be available ...
 
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RE: A-380 As A Holiday Charter

Fri Sep 07, 2007 1:13 am

Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 3):
Less roomy too. I think Corsair puts more than 500 pax in their 747, if I'm not mistaken.

You're right: 580pax.
I remember the former Corsair boss, Jacques Maillot, saying he was interested in putting 800 pax in an A380...
The time will eventually come, just wait for the A380 to be available on the used market. The acquisition cost may be too high for this kind of operator.

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