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Question On The 1st B747

Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:56 am

Hi everyone, I was going thru some pictures and I found that the 1st B747 had more than 10 windows on each side on the upper level during the 80s and then it became 3 windows on each side again. Any reason why?

Did Boeing take those windows down or they needed to re-skined the plane?


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RE: Question On The 1st B747

Wed Sep 12, 2007 2:03 am

They were covered with window plugs.
 
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RE: Question On The 1st B747

Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:09 am

werent the extra windows actually painted on 001? I remember seeing that somewhere.
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RE: Question On The 1st B747

Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:15 am

Quoting NorthStarDC4M (Reply 2):
werent the extra windows actually painted on 001?

I suspect you are right; most of the -100's had just the three windows, and I'm sure the prototype did. Certainly it only had three when it rolled out of the factory for the first time.
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RE: Question On The 1st B747

Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:18 am

hi all

off topic, who got the first 747 and what happened to it?
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RE: Question On The 1st B747

Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:24 am

Quoting Bullpitt (Reply 4):
hi all

off topic, who got the first 747 and what happened to it?

Right now it's sitting in Seattle at the Museum of Flight (across the road at the static outside display behind the Concorde). You can get within a foot or two of it, but no ability to go inside of it.
 
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RE: Question On The 1st B747

Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:26 am

Quoting Bullpitt (Reply 4):

See also N7470 in database.
 
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RE: Question On The 1st B747

Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:29 am

Quoting SEPilot (Reply 3):
I suspect you are right; most of the -100's had just the three windows, and I'm sure the prototype did. Certainly it only had three when it rolled out of the factory for the first time.

I doubt that by the time of rollout, those additional windows were plugged, so I presume that later on, the aircraft got modified for testing the 10 window layout, and later got those windows plugged.
 
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RE: Question On The 1st B747

Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:30 am

thanks for the feed back guys.
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RE: Question On The 1st B747

Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:31 am

Quoting Bullpitt (Reply 4):
off topic, who got the first 747 and what happened to it?

Nobody. Boeing kept it and it's now in the Seattle Museum of Flight. Well, across the road actually.
 
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Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:24 pm

 
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RE: Question On The 1st B747

Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:39 pm

Quoting NorthStarDC4M (Reply 2):
werent the extra windows actually painted on 001? I remember seeing that somewhere

I recall reading on here that the first 747's were structurally limited to only three windows in the upper deck. Later aircraft had a structural modification that allowed more windows in the upper deck. It's also been stated that some airlines (TWA) actually plugged the extra windows so that all their 741's would look the same.
 
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RE: Question On The 1st B747

Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:08 pm

Quoting Visityyj (Reply 9):
Nobody. Boeing kept it and it's now in the Seattle Museum of Flight. Well, across the road actually.

As far as I know, nobody other than Boeing has ever flown it. N7470 did some flight testing for the 777 engines prior to first flight/in service, but aside from that, I don't think it's done much besides sit in storage (in LAS if I recall) and look good at BFI.

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