ushermittwoch
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Ever Attempted To Open Emergency Exit?

Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:01 pm

Hi!

I was just on a U2 flight from CMN to MAD sitting in 11F, when the guy sitting infront of me pulled off the cover of the emergengy exit lever. All I could say, admittedly baffled, was: "Well at least we know it works..."
He then put the cover back on and the F/As did not see it, so nothing happened.

Anybody have similar experiences?
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jamotcx
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RE: Ever Attempted To Open Emergency Exit?

Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:25 pm

Were you on an A319? Pulling the cover off the emergency exit is annunciated in the flightdeck.

We had it happen recently in our airline. Its no real big deal taking off the cover, just dont try to pull the lever!


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RE: Ever Attempted To Open Emergency Exit?

Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:18 pm

Yeah in the 319 a light comes up in the flightdeck, it happened to us before V1 on takeoff, about 100kts. Aborted the takeoff. The reason was however, that the panel fell off, poor guy sitting next to it got blamed though to start with!
 
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RE: Ever Attempted To Open Emergency Exit?

Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:28 pm

Some things are best left alone.
 
UA772IAD
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RE: Ever Attempted To Open Emergency Exit?

Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:29 pm

I'm having trouble visualizing this one. Since when is the lever covered?
 
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RE: Ever Attempted To Open Emergency Exit?

Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:56 pm

Quoting Ushermittwoch (Thread starter):
Anybody have similar experiences?

Well, yes! I like the shocked expression on people's faces when I do that in mid-air screaming some Arabic phrases  duck 

Now, on a more serious note, I was once on a KLM flight from LAX to AMS and I had a very, very drunk passenger sitting next to me who was fumbling with the lever and scaring me to hell. He was mumbling about how nice it was if it would end here and now. After alarming the F/A's, the man was escorted to another place away from doors.

Can be scary!

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RE: Ever Attempted To Open Emergency Exit?

Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:13 pm

Quoting LifelinerOne (Reply 5):
Now, on a more serious note, I was once on a KLM flight from LAX to AMS and I had a very, very drunk passenger sitting next to me who was fumbling with the lever and scaring me to hell. He was mumbling about how nice it was if it would end here and now. After alarming the F/A's, the man was escorted to another place away from doors.

Can be scary!

Certainly sounds like it! What an idiot that must have been.

Actually anyone who fumbles with any emergency exits when it's not an emergency pretty much would qualify to be an idiot.
 
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RE: Ever Attempted To Open Emergency Exit?

Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:19 pm

The overwing exits on the A320 series are always armed.
If you pull the lever to open the exit, the overwing slide WILL inflate.

The B737 classic has similar overwing exits, but no slide. Pilots were in the
habit of opening the exit to check the wing for ice.
They were soon reminded that it is not a good idea on an A320!
 
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ADent
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RE: Ever Attempted To Open Emergency Exit?

Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:26 am

What doors can be opened in flight? None that I know of in the A/C is pressurized. Even the 727 rear had to be depressurized before opening.

Is there a reason the press always makes a big deal about this. Maybe the slide?
 
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RE: Ever Attempted To Open Emergency Exit?

Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:31 am

Had to on a CRJ to work for the airline. Was rather easy. Wasn't much of a big deal though.
 
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RE: Ever Attempted To Open Emergency Exit?

Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:43 am

Quoting Ushermittwoch (Thread starter):
I was just on a U2 flight from CMN to MAD sitting in 11F, when the guy sitting infront of me pulled off the cover of the emergengy exit lever. All I could say, admittedly baffled, was: "Well at least we know it works..."
He then put the cover back on and the F/As did not see it, so nothing happened.

And errrr, you didnt think about reporting him???
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RE: Ever Attempted To Open Emergency Exit?

Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:47 am

I sat next to a deadheading WN F/A once, who told me about some drunken bozo at MAF who boarded a flight, and managed to get an overwing emergency exit open shortly after pushback and before the engines were started. The flight got cancelled, as apparently, it takes a mechanic to put everything back the way it belongs when this happens  Sad
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RE: Ever Attempted To Open Emergency Exit?

Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:47 am

Quoting Kstatepilot (Reply 9):
Had to on a CRJ to work for the airline. Was rather easy. Wasn't much of a big deal though.

Did you place on the seat next to you or toss it out the door?? Big grin
 
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RE: Ever Attempted To Open Emergency Exit?

Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:50 am

Quoting ADent (Reply 8):
What doors can be opened in flight?

I await the interesting answers....
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RE: Ever Attempted To Open Emergency Exit?

Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:51 am

Quoting Ushermittwoch (Thread starter):
Anybody have similar experiences?

Nope. However, if I had, I would have probably not thought to have said "Well at least we know it works..."... more like "What the **** do you you think you're doing?" Followed closely by pressing the call bell and alerting someone...

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RE: Ever Attempted To Open Emergency Exit?

Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:53 am

About two months ago I opened one on the CRJ and ended up standing out on the wing. But, don't do this... I fly the plane and had an official reason to do so (although, its kind of a long story). They're a lot harder to take out than they are to put back in. Especially the cockpit overhead one... man that thing can be a pain.
 
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RE: Ever Attempted To Open Emergency Exit?

Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:08 am

Quoting ADent (Reply 8):
What doors can be opened in flight?



Quoting Andz (Reply 13):
I await the interesting answers....

I thought an AA flight attendant was killed at MIA a couple of years ago (or maybe it was a gate agent?) opening a door on a still-pressurized A300, and got blown out onto the tarmac (the plane was on the ground....).

EDIT: Here we go, from the NTSB database:

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20001212X22314&key=1

[Edited 2007-09-12 21:11:45]
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RE: Ever Attempted To Open Emergency Exit?

Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:17 am

I got to pull an overwing exit for a F-100 at an American Airlines maintenance facility where my parents worked quite a while ago. I must admit the 70 lbs door caught me by surprise. I was not expecting it to weight as much as it did. In an emergency however, I'm sure it would have feel like 7 lbs. Putting it back it was a snap...
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RE: Ever Attempted To Open Emergency Exit?

Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:19 am

Quoting Ushermittwoch (Thread starter):
when the guy sitting infront of me pulled off the cover of the emergengy exit lever.

The "Slide Armed" light would have also illuminated if not already done so.

Quoting ADent (Reply 8):
What doors can be opened in flight?

The answer is NO, unless the cabin is de-pressurized.

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 16):
I thought an AA flight attendant was killed at MIA a couple of years ago (or maybe it was a gate agent?) opening a door on a still-pressurized A300, and got blown out onto the tarmac (the plane was on the ground....).

This is a unique situation as the door design did not incorporate a venting system (like those found on Boeing and Embraer aircraft). The cabin pressure differential was not large enough to totally impede door opening (as you would find in a cabin at 35,000 ft)...but it was just enough to make the door opening difficult allowing the door to burst open once the flight attendant finally managed to unhinge the door. This is actually the second death involving a A300 aircraft exit as reported to the NTSB.

What many passengers do not understand is how difficult and unwieldy a "plug type" overwing exit is. I have had a chance to open MD-80, B-737-CL and Gulfstream style plug type exits for training and manipulating them can be difficult. The new B737NG design is so much better.

Quoting Brick (Reply 17):
70 lbs

Most overwing exits are from 35-45 lbs in weight.

[Edited 2007-09-12 21:21:43]
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RE: Ever Attempted To Open Emergency Exit?

Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:32 am

I got the honor of opening the armed forward passenger entry door (1L) on the 717 during F/A training at Hawaiian. All I have to say is that the slide inflates VERY VERY VERY fast.

Also have opened all the 717 and 767 doors in real life or in the mock-up room.

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RE: Ever Attempted To Open Emergency Exit?

Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:59 am

Quoting ADent (Reply 8):
What doors can be opened in flight?

Cockpit door, and the lav door.  Smile

Quoting UA772IAD (Reply 4):
I'm having trouble visualizing this one. Since when is the lever covered?





Video of door opening and slide deployment.



http://youtube.com/watch?v=RCFzEg-t_Bk

http://youtube.com/watch?v=F75gyPxoHh8
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RE: Ever Attempted To Open Emergency Exit?

Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:05 am

Quoting Flyf15 (Reply 15):
Especially the cockpit overhead one... man that thing can be a pain.

When we were doing door pulls, it took 2 mechanics to get it back in the slot of a CRJ-200. It was about 105 degrees out and we didn't have any air. When the mechanics came out they told the instructor he could start the APU. This was after 30 out of the 40 people had already pulled the doors.

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