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Airline Interior Quality -- Which Is Best?

Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:22 am

This morning I was on a flight and noticed that there was quite a bit wear and tear and damage on the interior of the aircraft (see photos). This particular aircraft went into service on 8/99 and is part of an airlines that has been through bankruptcy since it went into service. I have flown on a lot of types of aircrafts and have seen wear on them all. My question is this, which aircraft company has the most durable interiors? Does one hold up longer versus another or is it more a function of the investment the airlines makes into keeping up the interiors? What other factors need to be considered?

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RE: Airline Interior Quality -- Which Is Best?

Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:25 am

Emirates is the best , take time and look at their suites in their A345 and soon to come the revolutionary interior with the A380
 
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RE: Airline Interior Quality -- Which Is Best?

Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:07 am

Quoting Jakeflyer (Thread starter):
most durable interiors

It all depends... in your photos, one is of the cabin fixtures (Aircraft Manufacturer) and the other is seat (not Aircraft Manufacturer)
 
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RE: Airline Interior Quality -- Which Is Best?

Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:10 am

Any airline that goes through Ch. 11 is usually forced by the bankruptcy court to suspend all but the most critical capital expenditures. Non-safety related maintenance is deferred. That is the big disadvantage of bankruptcy. Management loses control over the company and hands a good portion of decision making to the creditors and bankruptcy judge.

Even after the airline exits Ch. 11 there is a limited budget to catch up with the deferred maintenance. It often takes several years before things get fixed and sometimes they never get fixed.

The damage shown may not be due to the durability of the materials but due to lack of maintenance, deferred seat replacement or whatever. Seats on an aircraft are normally changed during a major MX check but they could have just put the old seats back in the plane if the airline was short of cash. The airline also could have selected cheap interiors.
 
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RE: Airline Interior Quality -- Which Is Best?

Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:55 am

I spy someone who flew a US Airbus  Wink. Seriously, their interiors are starting to get really bad. I hope US revamps their premium product, because it's becoming less and less premium by the day.
To answer your question, it's all dependent on how much time a certain airline is willing and able to devote to maintenance of aircraft interiors. Quite obviously, the 'bus above hasn't been maintained too well, but as you say, the airline has been through 2 bankruptcies and a merger- not the easiest of times. Every airline has the oddball aircraft that looks like crap inside, but I'd say (based on personal experience) that DL and CO have the nicest aircraft interiors of all US majors.
 
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RE: Airline Interior Quality -- Which Is Best?

Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:10 am

My votes for mainline DELTA... Over the past 2-3 years the company has done intensive cleanings on all their aircraft. Flying on an M88 today is a remarkably different experience than just a few years ago, with most planes having new white PSUs, overhead doors that are spotless, new carpet, new leather seat covers, faux wood floors in bathrooms along with new/newer counters, and bright clean LED reading and side panel lights. Out of the US Majors I have been on in the past year, DL's have been by far the best and close to even CO's 738s which were newer than every DL plane I've been on.
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RE: Airline Interior Quality -- Which Is Best?

Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:15 am

Quoting AADC10 (Reply 3):
Any airline that goes through Ch. 11 is usually forced by the bankruptcy court to suspend all but the most critical capital expenditures. Non-safety related maintenance is deferred. That is the big disadvantage of bankruptcy. Management loses control over the company and hands a good portion of decision making to the creditors and bankruptcy judge.

Even after the airline exits Ch. 11 there is a limited budget to catch up with the deferred maintenance. It often takes several years before things get fixed and sometimes they never get fixed.

While sometimes true, it's not an excuse.

Delta increased retrofitting new cabins to aircraft, and increased the deep-cleaning schedule during their Chap 11 stint.
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RE: Airline Interior Quality -- Which Is Best?

Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:15 am

SQ and NH are nice. UA has been hit or miss. I've been on a few birds with a newly refurbished interior during their maintenance checks and they look great, but then I've been on older ones that look, not terrible or even "bad", but less then spiffy.  Smile
 
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RE: Airline Interior Quality -- Which Is Best?

Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:25 am

That cracked up table surface appears to also be a safety hazard. I am sure those edges are sharp enough to slice someone. At least they could put some duct tape over the edge to prevent anyone from getting cut.
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RE: Airline Interior Quality -- Which Is Best?

Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:34 am

Well those are pretty sad. I can't see a dab of glue or something on the PSU and a new chunk of plastic (or as said earlier, atleast a few pieces of white duct tape even) costing too much...


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RE: Airline Interior Quality -- Which Is Best?

Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:31 am

Quoting Type-Rated (Reply 8):
At least they could put some duct tape over the edge to prevent anyone from getting cut.

Is duct tape FAA-PMA approved?
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RE: Airline Interior Quality -- Which Is Best?

Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:39 am

Quoting Dl_mech (Reply 10):
Is duct tape FAA-PMA approved?

Must be. UA sure uses a lot of it. Big grin
 
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RE: Airline Interior Quality -- Which Is Best?

Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:48 am

Quoting Dl_mech (Reply 10):
Is duct tape FAA-PMA approved?

Well on certain aircraft I'm familiar with there are areas that are frequently converted from pax to cargo and back to pax, and some fancy colour duct tape seems to do quite well at fixing the bangs and scrapes on the non-important interior parts. The tape doesn't last forever and the pieces get repaired or replaced eventually, but the tape is awesome for a quick, easy and effective "good enough for now" fix.


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