flydreamliner
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US-Brazil Bilateral

Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:15 am

Can anyone help me in what the major points of the US-Brazil bilateral aviation agreement are, and where I can find the particulars?

I know it is fairly restrictive, but I was curious what the exact structure was, how many frequencies, and how it is decided who can fly where?
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RE: US-Brazil Bilateral

Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:28 am

104 weekly flights for each country's carriers, which are currently used as follows:

AA: 53x
CO: 14x
DL: 21x
UA: 14x

JJ: 35x

There are also exemptions beyond the bilateral. AA and DL both have exemptions that allow them to operate additional flights during peak periods, but they have to re-apply every season for them. This year, AA has five additional frequencies, and DL has four. There are actually two US-carrier frequencies that are unused, believe it or not.
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RE: US-Brazil Bilateral

Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:49 pm

many thanks! do you know if there have been any recent talks on a concluding an open skies agreement? Is there cargo open skies between Brazil and the US?
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RE: US-Brazil Bilateral

Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:01 pm

Does the bilateral also stipulate which cities in each country can be served?
 
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RE: US-Brazil Bilateral

Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:07 pm

Quoting FlyDreamliner (Thread starter):
Can anyone help me in what the major points of the US-Brazil bilateral aviation agreement are, and where I can find the particulars?

The following url is the US State Depts "Treaties in Force" database which may have what you are looking for:
http://www.state.gov/s/l/treaty/treaties/2007/index.htm

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RE: US-Brazil Bilateral

Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:33 pm

Quoting Greenair727 (Reply 3):
Does the bilateral also stipulate which cities in each country can be served?

Yes. Airlines from the US can serve: MAO, BSB, GIG, GRU, REC, POA, BEL, CNF and SSA and from these cities to Uruguay, Paraguay, Argentina and Chile.

They can also codeshare to up to 30 destinations in Brazil, 14 of which were alredy selected by the american airlines: CGR, CGB, CWB, FLN, FOR, IGU, GYN, JPA, JOI, MCZ, NAT, RAO, SLZ and VIX.

The brazilian airlines can serve: JFK, ATL, MIA, ORD, DTW, IAD, IAH, MCO, LAX, SFO, BOS, SJU and from these cities the flight can go on to destinations in Germany, Belgium, Switzerland, the Netherlands, Canada, Taiwan, Macau, ICN, PEK and BKK. Also from LAX to one or two destinations in Japan.

They can also codeshare to up to 30 destinations in the US, 26 of which were selected: DEN, LAS, SAN, SEA, HNL, CLE, PDX, PHX, TUS, MSY, MSP, DFW, PHL, CVG, TPA, PIT, STL, SLC, RDU, BNA, AUS, SJC, TUS, JAX, CMH and IND.

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RE: US-Brazil Bilateral

Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:44 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 1):
104 weekly flights for each country's carriers, which are currently used as follows:

In fact it's 105 weekly frequencies Mark, not 104.

http://www.anac.gov.br/arquivos/pdf/...rdosBilaterais/E/EstadosUnidos.pdf

And i believe AA holds only 52 weekly flights not 53:

GIG-MIA 7
GRU-MIA 26
GIG-GRU-JFK 7
GRU-DFW 12

And considering Brazilian side, Ocean Air holds 7 LAX and Varig 13 MIA, 10 JFK plus 4 LAX frequencies.


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