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American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Fri Sep 21, 2007 5:43 am

Will AE ever serve ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD from MIA? They are in perfect range from there EMB-CRJ aircraft. They would have pretty good capicity. Half would be people going to Miami another half would be conncting travelers to Europe, South A, Latin Am., Mex., and Carrib. I think they are waiting till they get more fleet. Is that right?
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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Fri Sep 21, 2007 5:49 am

PVD has very strong caribean and latin american demographics for a market of its size, even comprable to some larger markets, though NK just walked away from thinking they could get them at BOS, only to get their @$$ handed to them....

Very large population of Dominicans and Guatemalans in the Rhode Island area, both of which could be very well served from MIA. Heck with NK gone, i think AA could even support PVD-MIA mainline, which is saying alot since we all know what AA thinks of PVD. But the demographics and numbers ARE there.
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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:15 am

MIA-PVD could easily support a year-round 737-800 service. The connection oppurtunities are just a bonus. MIA-ALB/BUF/SYR, as well as MIA-ROC, are also large enough markets to support a daily American Airlines flight. Sans ALB, all have non-stops to FLL, and only ROC's is seasonal, the rest are year-round.

The problem is that AA does not have the proper equipment. These are not ideal ERJ routes, and even the CR7 is not best for these. AA needs a good-sized 100-seat aircraft to operate MIA-ALB/BUF/SYR/ROC. When that happens, I would not be surprised to see AA start.

Needless to say, without the aircraft, the route isn't going to happen. One of the MIA/AA route rumours that has gained steam lately is MIA-MDT. Even though Harrisburg is a smaller market to Miami than the New York markets, it is much more reasonably within the limits of the ERJ-140 (same distance as MIA-PIT, barely over 1,000 miles). Also, there is no LCC competition. I think if you see another Miami-Northeast route on AA soon, it will be Harrisburg.

Look at the success American Airlines has had with their non-stops from Miami to Fayetteville, Arkansas. I know that it was largely started thanks to Wal*Mart, but is they can fill a daily flight Fayetteville (and they fill it easily), they can do it to these markets too.

AA is not going to go farther than 1,100 miles on RJs from Miami (MIA-XNA, the longest route, is 1,099). It is important to note that flights to Miami are often loaded with luggage - cruise passengers and Caribbean/Latin connections, which puts tighter limits on how far one can reasonably fly an ERJ from Miami. Fayetteville is the limit.

Similarly, smaller markets close to Miami, within about 650 miles, are within reasonable range for AA's ATRs, so markets like Mobile and Gulfport are possible with their ATR fleet, and with plenty of free ATRs, those might happen sooner than other expansion. The ATRs are cheap to operate and can fly profitably with a low load factor. I think that you will be seeing a lot of ATR expansion from Miami this year, rather than expanded RJ flying, starting with the already announced flights to Sarasota and Savannah. I know AA is in talks with a few Florida and Bahamas airports to re-open service that they ended when they moved the Saabs out of Miami.

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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:17 am

ALB doesnt have a FLL flight
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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:22 am

Quoting USAirALB (Reply 3):
ALB doesnt have a FLL flight

Like I said, "Sans ALB, all have non-stops to FLL".

Southwest will be starting FLL-ALB sooner than later.
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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:24 am

sorry. when will we get that fll flight BUF just got it
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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:28 am

Didn't Eagle use to offer PVD-RDU-MIA flights? American has really give the shaft to Providence.. There are a lot of destinations that could be served from PVD...
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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:28 am

Quoting USAirALB (Reply 5):
sorry. when will we get that fll flight BUF just got it

No idea when, but given they just added Buffalo, Providence, and Raleigh, Albany and Manchester are the next logical additions.
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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:31 am

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 6):
Didn't Eagle use to offer PVD-RDU-MIA flights? American has really give the shaft to Providence.. There are a lot of destinations that could be served from PVD...

American doesn't perform well at Providence, so why should they dedicate resources to unprofitable operations? RDU-PVD was a poor financial performer, and DFW-PVD yields were pretty bad. When American was flying PVD-RDU, they did take a good amount of connects to Miami, and even double-connects further south.
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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:38 am

Well, here's hoping someone looks at the route.. andother routes from PVD.. perhaps US or WN.. or maybe XJet will jump in...
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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:00 am

it would be great if us could jump in
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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:15 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 4):
Southwest will be starting FLL-ALB sooner than later

I'd say there and PHX would be next, IMO.


It's tough as MQ doesn't have the right equipment for the route MIA-ALB.

Now if MIA had MD80's based there, it could be a feasible route. Once daily would sell pretty well.

Now I've brought this up in a previous thread, but can't AA operate a route out of ALB for some time due to some contract clause or something? I read it before, maybe I'm just crazy.
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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:13 am

Years ago, AA used to fly BUF-MIA, usually with a 727-100. A friend of mine was an F/E at the time, and he hated those early morining pre-flight inspections in the dead of winter.
 
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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:50 am

the problem with PVD-DFW was too many LAX (and the like) connections at WN-matched fares. If AA simply revenue managed the flight better, it would have done fine. Both PVD-DFW and PVD-RDU flights were packed, which tells you it wasn't a demand issue, rather yield. The only one AA hasn't done is the one that would generate both a fare premium on local traffic (no LCC between PVD-MIA and there is some premium over FLL) and much better connecting yields via MIA to ethnic markets (PVD does have large SJU, GUA and SDQ/STI demographics and growing Bolivian and Venezualean ties as well). Throw in the fact that MIA is closer to DFW from PVD and most flow traffic closer than California (again, on better revenues) and the overall fuel costs would be lower. Combined, the overall yield picture on a PVD-MIA flight looks much better than PVD-DFW.
 
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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:08 pm

Quoting USAirALB (Thread starter):
I think they are waiting till they get more fleet. Is that right?

that and local O&D RASM is depressed thanks to B6, wn, and so on to FL... even CLE lost their daily... from a MD80 to twice daily EMB 140s, to one Daily to SAT only... I don't think that Mq will ever put the a/c on that long a haul with out stellar RASM.. AA might, but they also are short a/c...
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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:40 pm

Quoting HPAEAA (Reply 14):

that and local O&D RASM is depressed thanks to B6, wn, and so on to FL... even CLE lost their daily... from a MD80 to twice daily EMB 140s, to one Daily to SAT only...

MIA-CLE daily has not been lost. It's coming back in the spring. Eagle is short on aircraft this winter. Very short.
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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Fri Sep 21, 2007 2:33 pm

The problem is that AA does not have the proper equipment. These are not ideal ERJ routes, and even the CR7 is not best for these. AA needs a good-sized 100-seat aircraft to operate MIA-ALB/BUF/SYR/ROC. When that happens, I would not be surprised to see AA start.

Some of many casualties of AA's scope clause. The gap between a paltry 25 CR7's and the dog-pound of Mad Dogs yawns quite widely.

--UA's January 8, 1980 timetable shows ROC-MIA, ROC-FLL, and BUF-MIA all 1x daily nonstop on mainline a/c. (No UA in SYR or ALB until 1982).
--EA's July 2, 1979 timetable shows BUF-PHL-MIA daily on narrowbody a/c; same timetable shows SYR-ATL-FLL twice daily on narrowbody, and SYR-PHL-MIA once daily on L-1011. ALB-JFK-MIA was run once daily on narrowbody. (No EA in ROC til later that year)

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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:13 pm

AA won't offer anything too comprehensive at PVD in order not to dilute it's BOS operation. The business may be there but AA would rather slug it out at Logan. If they wanted yield to higher dollar value destinations it would take not pricing fares at hundreds more at PVD. Otherwise all they would get are the low value stuff that they want to avoid in the first place.
 
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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:36 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 2):
MIA-ALB/BUF/SYR, as well as MIA-ROC, are also large enough markets to support a daily American Airlines flight. Sans ALB, all have non-stops to FLL, and only ROC's is seasonal, the rest are year-round.

We can only dream of this and of AA mainline returning. I read somewhere on here that the 5 year 'ban' on mainline here is up in '08. It's been almost 5 years since mainline left here . We used to get MD80's and F100's to ORD.
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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:30 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 2):
I think that you will be seeing a lot of ATR expansion from Miami this year, rather than expanded RJ flying, starting with the already announced flights to Sarasota and Savannah.



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 15):
MIA-CLE daily has not been lost. It's coming back in the spring. Eagle is short on aircraft this winter. Very short.

Have you heard anything about bringing ATRs to CLT and redeploying the ERJs elsewhere? CLT-MIA is exactly 650 miles, so it's a touch long, but if MQ is as desperate for ERJs as they seem (and OW is as long on ATRs as they seem), it seems like the switch would make some sense.
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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:49 am

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 19):
Have you heard anything about bringing ATRs to CLT and redeploying the ERJs elsewhere?

No, this will say jet for competitive reasons against US. Eagle would like to make MIA-JAX all-jet, but thats currently not feasible with the lack of RJ's, particularly for MIA.
 
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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:03 am

Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 20):
No, this will say jet for competitive reasons against US.

An interesting point, and not one I'd thought of before. But I'm not sure regional aircraft compare favorably with mainline, regardless of what sort of powerplant they have.
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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Sat Sep 22, 2007 3:31 am

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 19):

Have you heard anything about bringing ATRs to CLT and redeploying the ERJs elsewhere? CLT-MIA is exactly 650 miles, so it's a touch long, but if MQ is as desperate for ERJs as they seem (and OW is as long on ATRs as they seem), it seems like the switch would make some sense.

No way. Trust me, MIA-CLT will stay with RJs. The route is an extremely important business route, with lots and lots of bank traffic (hence, MIA-CLT is 6x daily). No ATRs there. They are looking at using ATRs to some new Florida and Bahamas stations, as well as Mobile and Biloxi.
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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:08 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 15):
MIA-CLE daily has not been lost. It's coming back in the spring. Eagle is short on aircraft this winter. Very short.

I wondered about that flight. It comes back in early April, missing most of the snowbird season. Why would the aircraft become available then? Heavy schedule of winter maintenance?
 
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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:16 am

Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 23):

I wondered about that flight. It comes back in early April, missing most of the snowbird season. Why would the aircraft become available then? Heavy schedule of winter maintenance?

Just the way scheduling works out. I do know they still hope to find an ERJ to operate it daily during the winter, but can't commit one right now.

Also, remember that MIA does not have an ERJ base (yet), so it becomes more difficult to send ERJs to Miami because they have to be rotated from other stations. So an ERJ on MIA-CLE, for example, has to originate at an ERJ base, like ORD. AA can't add an ERJ to Miami without adjusting the inbound/outbound schedules from another station.
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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:39 am

so when the 5 year ban is lifted will upstate ny get mainline back? who made the 5 year ban? does aa want to come back?
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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:09 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 15):
MIA-CLE daily has not been lost. It's coming back in the spring. Eagle is short on aircraft this winter. Very short.

We'll I'll believe it when it starts flying again this spring... no new A/c could keep the situation the same... Out of curiosity and a little of topic, what happened to the 5th LGA CLE that was loaded for a while?
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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:17 am

Quoting HPAEAA (Reply 26):

We'll I'll believe it when it starts flying again this spring...

It is already bookable.

Quoting HPAEAA (Reply 26):
Out of curiosity and a little of topic, what happened to the 5th LGA CLE that was loaded for a while?

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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:28 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 2):
One of the MIA/AA route rumours that has gained steam lately is MIA-MDT. Even though Harrisburg is a smaller market to Miami than the New York markets, it is much more reasonably within the limits of the ERJ-140 (same distance as MIA-PIT, barely over 1,000 miles). Also, there is no LCC competition. I think if you see another Miami-Northeast route on AA soon, it will be Harrisburg.

Being in MDT I have heard this rumor for a while. I hope it does happen...MDT-MIA would be a great addition to the existing ORD and DFW service.
 
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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Sat Sep 22, 2007 8:49 am

i didnt know they had DFW service hows it doin?
would they be able to pull of a ALB route?
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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:25 pm

Speaking of AA in Upstate NY, how are the ROC/SYR-DFW services doing? I'm assuming well enough to hold onto their daily CR7s, because BUF performed poorly and lost theirs.

Quoting USAirALB (Reply 29):
would they be able to pull of a ALB route?

Out of range for CR7, or it would have probably been tried along with BUF/ROC/SYR.
 
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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:53 pm

Quoting United_Fan (Reply 18):
We can only dream of this and of AA mainline returning. I read somewhere on here that the 5 year 'ban' on mainline here is up in '08. It's been almost 5 years since mainline left here .

United Fan...you are correct about the 5 year ban. This was put into place per the union agreement when AA pulled out of BUF/ROC/SYR/ALB. It states that no schedualed AA service and enter these markets for 5 years or recall rights will be given to all former AA employees. What I do not know is if this contact is still valid. AA had mainline BUF-DFW loaded into Sabre back in 2003 then the union saw that and it went to the CR7. If the contract is still valid 5 years is up 31JAN08.

Quoting PanAm330 (Reply 30):
Speaking of AA in Upstate NY, how are the ROC/SYR-DFW services doing? I'm assuming well enough to hold onto their daily CR7s, because BUF performed poorly and lost theirs.

PanAm330...both are doing VERY VERY well! Our CEO was on out DFW flight a week ago and mentioned that loads in ROC were very impressive. the flights are rarely ontime, but the loads have been very good. I would not like to work mainline at Eagle pay, but it would be nice to see AA back in ROC!
 
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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:46 pm

Quoting BatonOps (Reply 28):
Being in MDT I have heard this rumor for a while. I hope it does happen...MDT-MIA would be a great addition to the existing ORD and DFW service

Agree 100%. With the success of the DFW service and lack of direct flights to Florida from MDT, I think it would do fine. If they could only get the aircraft.........
 
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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:48 pm

Quoting PanAm330: Out of range for CR7

Its out of range? ALB is just 100 miles from SYR!
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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:21 am

Quoting USAirALB (Reply 33):
Quoting PanAm330: Out of range for CR7

Its out of range? ALB is just 100 miles from SYR!

So? DFW-SYR is just within the range. A CR7 cannot fly ALB-DFW.
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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:51 am

Quoting MA4546:DFW-SYR is just within the range. A CR7 cannot fly ALB-DFW

Here:DFW-SYR=1336 mi
DFW-ALB=1435 mi

CR7 range 1933 mi
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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Sun Sep 23, 2007 11:01 am

Quoting USAirALB (Reply 35):
CR7 range 1933 mi

This is what I'd call "best case scenario" range. When you're taking off with a full load of pax and bags, from the very hot DFW, ALB simply isn't within range.
 
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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:17 pm

Quoting USAirALB (Reply 35):
Quoting MA4546:DFW-SYR is just within the range. A CR7 cannot fly ALB-DFW

Here:DFW-SYR=1336 mi
DFW-ALB=1435 mi

CR7 range 1933 mi

That does not take into account luggage, cargo, passenger weight, and headwinds, not to mention model difference. AA's CR7 fleet can't do ALB-DFW. Once you get past 1,350 miles with their CR7s, you start running into restrictions that AA isn't going to deal with.

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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:52 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 37):
Once you get past 1,350 miles with their CR7s, you start running into restrictions that AA isn't going to deal with.

The CR7 is just on the edge coming into ROC and SYR. There have been a few times then the WX has gone to crap in ROC when the aircraft has been airborne and has to divert with no holding fuel available. MQ will not hesitate to do it with these flights, there is just no room for error. I remember when they "stubbed" a ERJ b/c many CR7s were out of service and the captain came into ROC on (what he said) were fumes and was not happy and got on the phone to dispatch right after the flight had landed, needless to say the flight was weight restricted to 25 the next morning b/c of the fuel load they requested.....ALB might be in range of the CR7, but might not be in range of the companies specs.....
 
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RE: American Eagle From MIA To ALB-SYR-BUF-PVD?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:03 am

AA needs some kind of EMB 170!
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