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zippyjet
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Pan Am 707 Unique Cabin?

Sun Sep 23, 2007 9:01 am

The UA Boeing 720 thread got me looking at old cabin layouts. When perusing the 707/720 selections I happened to notice a Pan Am cabin that had these unique overhead passenger controls. Now, bare with me as I explain myself.


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This is not an updated "wide body 70s lookalike interior" such as:


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and, you don't see the classic overhead control pods as in this pic.


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So, my question is: Anyone know about that first layout? Limited to Pan Am, what years? ETC.
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RE: Pan Am 707 Unique Cabin?

Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:28 am

Venturing a guess...see the split in the overhead? It's a 707-321CF I think...convertible freighter running as pax which would make sense for a charter. Would suspect that the flat PCU's are so they can fold up to the ceiling to allow pallets in.
 
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RE: Pan Am 707 Unique Cabin?

Sun Sep 23, 2007 11:53 am

PA 707's had a lounge originally in that area and the PSU's were flat to allow access to all seats.
 
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RE: Pan Am 707 Unique Cabin?

Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:23 pm

I remember what your talking about- PanAm had 3 or 4 707's that were dedicated to charters, but IIRC, (by my dad) it wasn't until the mid 60's. They pretty much did LAX-HNL and a couple of European Charter markets. And they changed the overhead controls and I think it went the way DL's L-15's were for a while. I never understood that concept, because no matter what, the AC was always hot. I was on one as a kid and remember it and asked my dad why. I remember my dad pointing out on charters, you don't always get the full serviice you would on a regular scheduled flight-circa 1966. And your right, just had a light switch and maybe a port for movies. And when the 747's came on board, they were more interested in keeping the 747's coming and weren't too concerned about updating the 707's including the charter versions. AA and TW did that and the rest is history.
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RE: Pan Am 707 Unique Cabin?

Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:44 pm

Quoting Iflyatldl (Reply 3):
And they changed the overhead controls and I think it went the way DL's L-15's were for a while. I never understood that concept

Were you referring to DL L 1011's? Sorry those flights were overheated. I'd think back in the day if you told a stewardess. Yes thats what they were called back then. They would tell the flight engineer (that third crew member) who would make the adjustment.

Thanks to everyone's answers.

Quoting Iflyatldl (Reply 3):
AA and TW did that and the rest is history.

AA birds got the redo but, TWA birds kept the classic pods.

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RE: Pan Am 707 Unique Cabin?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:18 am

Quoting Zippyjet (Reply 4):
AA birds got the redo but, TWA birds kept the classic pods.

There were at least a couple of other companies that did 707 interior conversions with larger overhead bins etc. They also did similar conversions on many DC-8s. 707 example below:


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RE: Pan Am 707 Unique Cabin?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:24 am

In the AS 707 pic of the original post there seems to be something between each of the passenger service units. Any ideas as to what that is?

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