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AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:58 pm

I would like to know how many 744 PAX AF still has in their fleet?
How many have PTVs?
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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:14 pm

I think they have 16, incl the 1 leased from KLM

F-GISA and F-GISB were converted from pax to F.
 
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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:16 pm

I may fly to MIA in November, which reg does AF use to send?
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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:17 pm

What routes are the 744 deployed on mostly? I dont think their African destinations get the 744, unfortunatley. How about Cayenne, does that get a 744??
 
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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:21 pm

They send the 744 to ATL, MIA, YUL, Punta Cana, Havana, LAX, PPT and others IIRC. But the 744 is no longer the flagship of the airline (it is the 777)
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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:27 pm

Quoting Swiftski (Reply 1):
I think they have 16, incl the 1 leased from KLM

Their website lists 14, so I am wrong by either 1 or 2, depending on whether they include the KLM bird.

Airbus A330-200 16

Airbus A340-300 19

Boeing 747-400 14

Boeing 777-200ER/-300ER 47
 
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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:33 pm

Quoting LY777 (Reply 2):
I may fly to MIA in November, which reg does AF use to send?

Both times I've flown MIA-CDG, they only had PTVs upstairs.

Don't have the regs.
 
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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:43 pm

Quoting LY777 (Thread starter):
How many have PTVs?

I think only three of the aircraft (not sure which) have PTVs throughout Economy. However, if you can get a seat in the upper deck, apparently all of the 744 fleet have PTVs up there in the 3-3 Economy configuration.

I flew with AF over and back to BOS on 744s in June ( F-GISC / F-GITA ) and was lucky enough to get the upper deck on the way back.

Anyone know when the jumbo will leave the pax fleet completely?

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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:18 pm

IIRC, they will leave the fleet In 3 years
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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:45 pm

F-GITI, F-GITJ, F-GITH are the only ones with PTV in all seats on both decks.

As far as I know they are often deployed on AF's longest routes, like GIG, MEX, LAX, SFO

AF are gradually converting their oldest 744's from pax to cargo. The 744 is being replaced by 773.

I have not seen any info posted so far as to whether they plan to keep some of their pax 744's alongside the 773 for any length of time.
 
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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:58 pm

which a/c have Y seats with PTVs on the upper deck?
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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:11 pm

I don't think the 747-400 has been used for the LAX route since they assigned the A340 to the Papeete extension last year or perhaps it was even the year before.

IIRC the LAX flights now are exclusively 772/77W except for the couple of times per week that the A340-300 operates AF074 (and continues to Papeete).

Somebody please correct me if I am mistaken.
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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:19 pm

DEL in the winter sees a B744, In january, we flew CDG-DEL-CDG on the F-GISA which has now been converted to a freighter, i wonder what reg will DEL see this winter!!!!??!!!
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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:21 pm

Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 11):
I don't think the 747-400 has been used for the LAX route since they assigned the A340 to the Papeete extension last year or perhaps it was even the year before.

IIRC the LAX flights now are exclusively 772/77W except for the couple of times per week that the A340-300 operates AF074 (and continues to Papeete).

Somebody please correct me if I am mistaken.

You are right. But they don't fly to Papeete with their own metals IIRC (it is a Tahiti Nui a/c IIRC)
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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:38 pm

AF flies to Papeete with their own metal (Airbus A340s) and no longer code-share with Air Tahiti Nui on any of the LAX-PPT flights.
The late afternoon CDG-LAX flights (usually on a B77W except once a week on a A340) connect with an AF A340 at LAX for the continuation onto PPT. AF used to fly the B744 CDG-LAX-PPT without change of plane.
The other daily flights CDG-LAX are with B777s. The B744 no longer flies this route since this is an AF first class route and the B744 no longer have first class.
 
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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:48 pm

A shame there is no first class on their 744. What I don't understand is that on AF website, I tried for fun to book a First class seat on CDG-MIA-CDG (operated by a 744), and it was possible, they showed the fares for the route!
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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:06 pm

Quoting LY777 (Reply 13):
But they don't fly to Papeete with their own metals IIRC (it is a Tahiti Nui a/c IIRC)

They do use their own aircraft and they recently switched it to the A340 from the 744, which is why we don't see the jumbo at LAX anymore.
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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:33 pm

Quoting LY777 (Reply 8):
IIRC, they will leave the fleet In 3 years

The 2003-built G-GITH, I, J are leased aircraft from ILFC, and as much as I know the contract is for 10 or 12 years.

Quoting Swiftski (Reply 1):
F-GISA and F-GISB were converted from pax to F.

Add F-GISF to it, which was delivered last week. How many 744s will be converted, all the Combis?
 
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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:36 pm

Quoting LY777 (Reply 4):
LAX, PPT

LAX-PPT-LAX is operated by an A343, while CDG-LAX-CDG is mostly operated by B772ER/B773ER and 1 x Week with an A343

Quoting LY777 (Reply 10):
which a/c have Y seats with PTVs on the upper deck?

ALL the B744are configured with an Y class at the upper deck (60 seats) . All of them with PTV.
PTVs in the Y cabin on the main deck of F-GITHI/TI/TJ.

Quoting Swiftski (Reply 1):
F-GISA and F-GISB were converted from pax to F.

F-GISA & F-GISB are indeed converted into full Freighters. F-GISE will be the third aircraft to be also converted into a freighter. The conversion should start next November 2007.

After F-GISE will be retired from PAX services, 13 B744 will remain in PAX services with AF. They are :

F-GITA/TB/TC/TD/TE/TF/TH/TI/TJ.
F-GEXA/XB (ex-UTA aircraft. F-GEXB is an ex-Combi)
F-GISC/SD (ex -Combi).

During the summer schedule, AF B744 are flying to :

JFK, BOS, YUL, YYZ, ATL, MIA, SFO, CCS, GIG, PUJ, SDQ, HAV, MEX, MRU


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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:42 pm

Thanks for all these infos!
Are Y seats on the upper deck more expansive than Y seats in the lower deck?

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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:07 am

Quoting LY777 (Reply 19):
Are Y seats on the upper deck more expansive than Y seats in the lower deck?

No. But usually, Full Y fare/Highest Y Fare PAX and Frequent flyers (F.B Gold /Platinum traveling in Y) are seated in priority at the U/D by the ground staff.
 
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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:00 am

Quoting LY777 (Reply 19):
Are Y seats on the upper deck more expansive than Y seats in the lower deck?

I've just flown back from Mauritius to CDG and as a flying blue member, got seated in the upper deck. Seat pitch is greater in the upper deck, approx. 34" compared to 31" on the lower deck so much more comfortable. PTV's are throughout the upper deck and standard ceiling mounted screens in the lower deack (which is quite a poor system given this is a national airline). I would have hated being stuck in the lower deck for the 11 hours, the upper deck is far better. Don't get me started on the cabin crew though, or should I say lack or cabin crew. This was my first time with AF, 3 flights with them over 2 weeks and there connections from MAN to CDG were excellent. I wish I could say the same for the long haul, poor in my opinion.

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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:11 am

Quoting LY777 (Reply 4):
They send the 744 to ATL, MIA, YUL, Punta Cana, Havana, LAX, PPT and others IIRC. But the 744 is no longer the flagship of the airline (it is the 777)

AF sends the 744 to BOS during the Fall and Winter months. I believe ATL is downgraded to a 343 during the Winter and Spring.

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 18):
During the summer schedule, AF B744 are flying to :

JFK, BOS, YUL, YYZ, ATL, MIA, SFO, CCS, GIG, PUJ, SDQ, HAV, MEX, MRU

BOS does not see the 744 during the Spring and Summer. AF adds a second frequency and both flights are operated by the 343, they have 14 x weekly frequencies to BOS.
 
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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:06 am

Hi!

Quoting LY777 (Reply 4):
But the 744 is no longer the flagship of the airline (it is the 777)

Excelent and bright quote this one!!! Yes, I agree with LY777, I was last June in CDG on transit to and from FIH to LIS and I don't recall seeing many 744's...I indeed saw many 777's and also A332/343's there! I guess with the arrival of the A380 the 744's will go??? That will end a great relation of 38 years..another chapter on AF! By the way I loved AF service, great meals, great crew...I was very impressed to see the way AF was dealing the passengers on our flights to FIH! When I was taxiing to park at FIH one of the crew told me about beeing carefull to take pictures in RDCongo...she gave me lot's of great clues and when I was leaving the plane I had the chance to thank the pilot, Captain Couchelle ( I don't know if it spell like that...) and he thanked me with a nice smile! Anyway AF is great and I'm sure you'll love it....they even serve champagne on board!!!
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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:22 am

Ewcuse me, where is FIH?

Yes, AF is great indeed. I try to take AF anywhere I fly (except to Israel, I prefer flying LY)
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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:24 am

Quoting LY777 (Reply 24):
Ewcuse me, where is FIH?

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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:35 am

Quoting LY777 (Reply 4):
But the 744 is no longer the flagship of the airline (it is the 777)

Is AF officially calling the 773ER its flagship (certainly not the 772)? Unless it is so, I quite disagree. The 744 is the biggest airliner in AFs fleet, so rightfully can claim the designation "flagship" - until the A380 comes to take over.
 
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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:49 am

Quoting LongHaul67 (Reply 9):
they are often deployed on AF's longest routes, like GIG, MEX, LAX, SFO



Quoting FlySSC (Reply 18):
AF B744 are flying to :

JFK, BOS, YUL, YYZ, ATL, MIA, SFO, CCS, GIG, PUJ, SDQ, HAV, MEX, MRU

I thought MEX was not getting any more AF 744s. If I am not mistaken, AF is using only 772ERs to MEX (twice daily), although perhaps the A343s get to visit MEX too (in conjunction with the 772s), on a seasonal basis.
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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:59 am

Quoting LY777 (Reply 15):
What I don't understand is that on AF website, I tried for fun to book a First class seat on CDG-MIA-CDG (operated by a 744), and it was possible, they showed the fares for the route!

I believe there is still a small number of 744s configured with F (F13/C58/Y322). Not sure, though. F is bookable on MIA-CDG flights, however, for whatever reason.
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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:31 am

Is there any chance for the B748 to be in AF colors in the future?
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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:54 am

Quoting NA (Reply 17):
The 2003-built G-GITH, I, J are leased aircraft from ILFC, and as much as I know the contract is for 10 or 12 years.

Couldn't the leases be easily transferred to another airline, or the planes sub-leased to another airline?
Maybe they will convert them to freighters.

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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:57 am

Quoting UPPERDECKFAN (Reply 29):
Is there any chance for the B748 to be in AF colors in the future?

this is as likely as Southwest buying A340s

Quoting NA (Reply 17):
The 2003-built G-GITH, I, J are leased aircraft from ILFC, and as much as I know the contract is for 10 or 12 years.

weren't they built in 2000?
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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:05 am

Quoting LY777 (Reply 31):
this is as likely as Southwest buying A340s

Why so slim? if LH bought both 748 and 380 why not AF? At this moment it doesn't seem likely but things could change in the future........

A bit off topic but, do the 748 have a chance for KL?
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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:18 am

Quoting B752OS (Reply 22):
BOS does not see the 744 during the Spring and Summer

Yes it does. AF322/AF321 is operated by a B744.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 28):
I believe there is still a small number of 744s configured with F (F13/C58/Y322).

No. The last 2 B744 is this ilds configuration were F-GISA / F-GISB. They were not reconfigured into the new 2-Class config because they were due to be converted into freighters.

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 27):
I thought MEX was not getting any more AF 744s.

During the summer schedule, AF434/AF434 is daily operated by a B744.
 
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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:20 am

I can't see AF ordering the 748 unfortunately for the time being. Maybe later...
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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:23 am

Quoting UPPERDECKFAN (Reply 32):
A bit off topic but, do the 748 have a chance for KL?

Not really. KLM only has 5 full-pax 744's, this is too small to justify the 748.
The rest of the KLM 747 fleet consists of combi's, they are ideal for KL, because of the cargo.
KLM is now adding the 77W to the fleet (beginning in 2008) and supposedly the cabin-config is identical to the 744.
So, KLM is going to replace the 744 with the 77W.
I reckon the 74M's are replaced with 772 / 77W, most likely the old planes will be converted into full freighters.
The M11 will be converted to freighters as well when they are retired and replaced by 787/A350.
I do see a little brighter future for the 748F version however, we might see one in KL/AF colors one day.
 
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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 6:56 am

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 33):

No. The last 2 B744 is this ilds configuration were F-GISA / F-GISB. They were not reconfigured into the new 2-Class config because they were due to be converted into freighters.

I'm curious then why you can book First Class on Air France's website for Miami-Paris. This is a pretty serious error. On Amadeus, though, it is listed just C/Y.

[Edited 2007-09-24 23:59:33]
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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:56 am

Quoting LY777 (Reply 2):
may fly to MIA in November, which reg does AF use to send?

I may fly from MIA to CDG on AF in February 2008 to see Sylvie Vartan in concert in Paris. Last year, I was going to fly on AF but I ended up going MIA/FRA/CDG on LH and CDG/ORD/MIA on UA after I managed to get a ridiculously low airfare through Expedia (about $380 round trip + tax) and I saw Sylvie Vartan perform in Monte-Carlo.
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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:27 am

Even when the 744 is gone it will still be the flagship of the airline.


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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:36 am

Quoting Dazbo5 (Reply 21):
PTV's are throughout the upper deck and standard ceiling mounted screens in the lower deack (which is quite a poor system given this is a national airline). I would have hated being stuck in the lower deck for the 11 hours, the upper deck is far better.

For the billionth time, AF is NOT a national airline. And these 10 744s are the only few longhaul a/c left with no PTV, and perhaps it is good to remind that throughout the major European airlines, most of them do not have systematically PTV in Y (none on LH and IB -LH just starting-, still a lot of M11 and 744 in KL fleet, none on the AZ 767, and none on the UK-"national airline" BA as well...).

True that being stuck for 11 hrs in a big 747 lower deck sucks, especially when no PTV, but nothing is worse than these few rows of seats above the wings with no windows (I think this is on all 747s). Yet there is far worse than AF service!
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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:54 am

Quoting NA (Reply 26):
Is AF officially calling the 773ER its flagship (certainly not the 772)? Unless it is so, I quite disagree. The 744 is the biggest airliner in AFs fleet, so rightfully can claim the designation "flagship" - until the A380 comes to take over.

Let me tell you why the 744 is no longer the flagship of AF:
1- AF doesn't send anymore the 744 to premium destinations
2- AF is downgrading its 744 fleet
3- they don't have PTVs, except 3 of them (they are the only long-haul AF a/c that don't have PTVs)
4- they don't have First Class section
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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:35 am

Quoting LY777 (Reply 40):
Let me tell you why the 744 is no longer the flagship of AF:
1- AF doesn't send anymore the 744 to premium destinations

Isn't DEL one of AF's premium destination?

Why does the B744 fly there during the winter months??? Is it due to increased load in the winter time and not enough premium pax to warrant a 77W???
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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:46 am

Quoting B752OS (Reply 22):
BOS does not see the 744 during the Spring and Summer. AF adds a second frequency and both flights are operated by the 343, they have 14 x weekly frequencies to BOS.

For the first time this Summer AF upgraded the BOS route to a 343 and 744. They also moved the second flight back to a 23:15 departure with a 21:00 (or so) arrival so it's rarely seen even though it's a daily occurance.

It will be reverting back to a daily 744 for the Winter season, as opposed to the 10x weekly A340s that were operated up until last year.

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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:53 pm

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 27):
thought MEX was not getting any more AF 744s. If I am not mistaken, AF is using only 772ERs to MEX (twice daily), although perhaps the A343s get to visit MEX too (in conjunction with the 772s), on a seasonal basis.

Until August and part of September, they were flying 2 dailies.

1 Daily 777
1 Daily (5xW 744 and 2xW 343)

The current schedule is:
13 weekly flights

1 Daily 777
6 Weeklies until Sep 27th (a mix of 744 and 343)

Starting on Sep 28th (12 weeklies)
1 Daily 777
5xW 744

Starting Oct 28th (12 weeklies)

1 Daily 777
5xw 777

By the way, on Oct 26th AF will send the 77W and on the 27th it will be the last 744 flight to MEX.

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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:17 am

As I said, it is still the flagship of any airline that has or is operating it.

Nothing else comes close.
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SNBru
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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:45 am

During winter months, Bangkok is served by 744 instead of the A340 during summer.

I am flying the AF B744 in a couple of weeks from SGN. Any chance of getting a seat at upper deck? I don't have an e-ticket and during the return flight I will become FB silver.

Any suggestions?

Thanks
 
SB
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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:08 am

Quoting YULWinterSkies (Reply 39):
and none on the UK-"national airline" BA as well...

Ummmm yes they do, since years actually.

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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Thu Sep 27, 2007 4:25 pm

Quoting SNBru (Reply 45):
I am flying the AF B744 in a couple of weeks from SGN. Any chance of getting a seat at upper deck? I don't have an e-ticket and during the return flight I will become FB silver.

Any suggestions?

I'd say your changes are pretty slim, but you could ask for it in a politely manner.
 
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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:20 pm

Quoting SNBru (Reply 45):
I am flying the AF B744 in a couple of weeks from SGN. Any chance of getting a seat at upper deck? I don't have an e-ticket and during the return flight I will become FB silver.

I got a seat in the upper deck coming back from MRU to CDG last saturday, my FB membership was certainly a factor in getting a seat upstairs. I'm glad I did, I'd hate to be on the main deck for 11 hours, the upperdeck is far nicer with seat back screen and greater seat pitch. All I did was ask the airmiles were added to my flying blue account when I checked in and I got 66L  Smile


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RE: AF: How Many 744 PAX Left?

Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:14 pm

Quoting Max Q (Reply 44):
As I said, it is still the flagship of any airline that has or is operating it.

Nothing else comes close.

Well that is certainly a persuasive argument. Regardless, when the A380 comes into the fleet, I imagine it will readily take on the 'flagship' route. I imagine the three routes it will be starting on, CDG-YUL, CDG-JFK, and CDG-NRT, are also premium destinations for AF.

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