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PBI-SJU. No Nonstops, An Opportunity There?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:31 pm

I find it surprising that given the substantial South Florida-Puerto Rico market, no one operates even 1 PBI-SJU nonstop. B6/AA or DL seem like potential operators of such a segment. Has anyone operated this in the past? Any possibility of one in the near future?
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RE: PBI-SJU. No Nonstops, An Opportunity There?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:40 pm

Interesting question. AA sems like the most logical choice given the feed they can provide into and out of SJU. For DL or B6 it would be purely O&D.
 
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RE: PBI-SJU. No Nonstops, An Opportunity There?

Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:34 am

I think this is a matter of time. Probably AA as mentioned above to feed SJU hub. As more of the population shifts to the Treasure Coast, there is a substantial catchment area that won't have to drive down to FLL.

The only other logical thing would be for OW to fly PBI-MIA and have passengers connect there.

What ever happened to PBI-MIA, about a year ago there was talk of OW starting PBI-MIA?????
 
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RE: PBI-SJU. No Nonstops, An Opportunity There?

Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:40 am

More so for the local traffic, this route, IMO, could work thanks to all the great connections. And PBI-Caribbean is a big market, it's just all served via FLL right now.

Quoting Sflaflight (Reply 2):

What ever happened to PBI-MIA, about a year ago there was talk of OW starting PBI-MIA?????

Gulfstream was going to start PBI-MIA, but it didn't happen. If OW had planes smaller than the ATRs, I wouldn't be surprised if they flew the route like they used too. ATR is too big.
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RE: PBI-SJU. No Nonstops, An Opportunity There?

Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:33 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 3):
ATR is too big.

Yeah, Thatœ for sure.

But AA could easily copy what it does in FLL. Just tag SJU onto an incoming DFW flight and vice versa. It wouldnt cost them that much more. Stations are already manned and aircraft already there.

Iḿ sure this is something AA will look at in the not so future.
 
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RE: PBI-SJU. No Nonstops, An Opportunity There?

Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:37 pm

Quoting Sflaflight (Reply 4):
But AA could easily copy what it does in FLL. Just tag SJU onto an incoming DFW flight and vice versa. It wouldnt cost them that much more. Stations are already manned and aircraft already there.

AA's FLL-SJU flights are mostly O&D. The only common connection is from LAX. I think AA could do PBI-SJU stand-alone just fine. Tagging it on or not makes no difference. A daily 738 would work great. A daily E-170 would work better. Too bad AA doesn't have E-170s.
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RE: PBI-SJU. No Nonstops, An Opportunity There?

Sat Sep 29, 2007 5:36 am

I'm sorry Mark. I was thinking of aircraft availability to fly to SJU from PBI. I know that PBI-SJU would be pretty much O&D. I agree too on the comment ".....if only AA had E170s...."

I guess the only option to get a plane in PBI would be to either continue it from DFW or originate it in SJU. Currently only Super 80s arrive in PBI. I assume an AA Super 80 could never do SJU over water. PBI would have to be switch to another aircraft to continue it on to SJU. While SJU is considered a hub, I don't believe it has any aircrafts based there, and for sure, there are no crews based there.

On a separate (not to hi-jack this thread) question.

Why does AA give so little priority to PBI? I mean 2 DFW flights only! No NYC service / No ORD service / No LAX service. I know FLL is down the road and MIA is a hub, but still, it's quite a hike to FLL from PBI during rush hour and especially if one lives north of PBI.
 
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RE: PBI-SJU. No Nonstops, An Opportunity There?

Sat Sep 29, 2007 5:39 am

Quoting Sflaflight (Reply 6):
Why does AA give so little priority to PBI? I mean 2 DFW flights only!

because DL, CO, FL and B6 have it covered?
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RE: PBI-SJU. No Nonstops, An Opportunity There?

Sat Sep 29, 2007 5:44 am

Quoting Sflaflight (Reply 6):
While SJU is considered a hub, I don't believe it has any aircrafts based there, and for sure, there are no crews based there.

ATR-72s are based there, and they have crew based there as well.

Quoting Sflaflight (Reply 6):

Why does AA give so little priority to PBI? I mean 2 DFW flights only! No NYC service / No ORD service / No LAX service.

AA flies PBI-ORD and PBI-LGA during the winter timetable.
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RE: PBI-SJU. No Nonstops, An Opportunity There?

Sat Sep 29, 2007 8:15 am

Anyone think Spirit could make a go of it ?
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