positiverate
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DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:14 pm

Since we're close enough to the announcement tomorrow (and since I did a search and didn't see that anyone else had posted it), I thought I would share what I am hearing regarding JFK changes and service DL will be announcing tomorrow :

Nine new trans-Atlantic routes with nonstop service between JFK and:
Amman, Jordan (effective June 5)*;
Cairo, Egypt (effective June 4)*;
Edinburgh, Scotland (effective May 1);
Lagos, Nigeria (effective June 9)*;
Malaga, Spain (effective June 4)*;
Tel Aviv, Israel (effective March 10)*;
Dakar, Senegal (effective June 2)*;
Nairobi, Kenya (via Dakar) (effective June 2)*;
and Cape Town, South Africa (via Dakar) (effective June 3)*.

Five new Latin America routes with nonstop service between JFK and:
Guatemala City, Guatemala (effective Dec. 14);
Liberia, Costa Rica (effective Feb. 16)*;
Panama City, Panama (effective Dec. 13);
Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago (effective Dec. 20)*;
and San Jose, Costa Rica (effective Feb. 15)*.

The flights will be operated with a mix of Boeing 737-800, 757-200 and 767-300ER aircraft, with 737s and 757s serving Latin America and 757s and 767s flying across the Atlantic. The airline’s 2008 expansion will be aided by the introduction of 15 additional Boeing 757-200 airplanes on international routes. With the introduction of 757s in trans-Atlantic service, Boeing 767-300s serving short-haul routes will be freed up to serve long-haul destinations in Africa and the Middle East.

Also: as part of its plan to address congestion and delays at JFK, Delta will make the following changes before summer 2008:

Metering its use of airport resources by reducing average hourly departures by 6 percent during the most congested hours of 3:30-6:30 p.m.;

Decreasing departures during JFK’s afternoon ‘rush hour’ by shifting short-haul trans-Atlantic flights to a third bank of international departures after 7 p.m.;

Optimizing connecting times to increase transit time for JFK customers to enhance overall baggage performance and schedule reliability;

Increasing by 47 percent the number of Delta flights operated with larger two-class jets. Of the 204 daily departures at JFK planned for 2008, 60 percent will be operated with larger two-class aircraft seating between 70 and 270 passengers – up from 40 percent in summer 2007; and

Eliminating all Delta flights at JFK operated with turboprop aircraft.

Together, these changes will reduce Delta’s demands on limited airspace and airport resources until a comprehensive redesign of the New York airspace is funded by the federal government. Delta’s redesign will offer a more than 20 percent increase in available seat miles by summer 2008, with 11 more daily departures.

Enjoy!  Smile
 
nycfly75
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:15 pm

Bravo Delta! Now lets move forward with a new JFK home!
 
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:24 pm

Seems like most the focus is on Africa and those 763's range will definately be stretched on some of those routes!

How does the new service to Dakar work? Is it going to have its dedicated service or will this be made up of the services to Niarobi and Cape Town services??? That will mean a minimum of three DL aircrafts their daily, with the JOH-ATL service also stopping off their. Delta's has a new hub in Africa!

JFK-DKR-CPT will be a long old journey on a 763 with no PTV's!  bigthumbsup 

Surprised to see JFK-AGP as didn't realise the Americans were into the Costa Del Sol like us Brits! I would have thought other cities in Spain would have seen an NYC service before Malaga, it is a large regional city for the area but their are many larger cities in Spain like Seville, Las Palmas, Bilbao, Jerez and Valencia with no direct service....

Shame no LTN-JFK service to be launched!

[Edited 2007-09-25 16:28:42]
 
RL757PVD
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:25 pm

Sweet!! I was hoping for delta to go to Capetown! Im hoping ATL-DKR-JNB will swap off with JFK-DKR-CPT to allow ATL-DKR-CPT connections
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:27 pm

Good for Delta. Does anybody know what kindof routes the Freedom CRJ-900s are going to fly?
 
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:28 pm

Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 3):
Im hoping ATL-DKR-JNB will swap off with JFK-DKR-CPT to allow ATL-DKR-CPT connections

That's what I was thinking too. I'm guessing JFK-DKR-CPT and JFK-DKR-NBO might operate on alternate days, with the JFK-DKR flight timed to allow connections to JNB.

I can't wait to hear the official announcement. If this is all true, DL's route map is looking more and more like Pan Am's...but with more nonstops!
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:49 pm

I think the announcements are bold on their part. I'd be interested in seeing their market analysis on the amount of traffic they feel they can generate from O&D versus connecting traffic.
 
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:53 pm

Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 2):
Surprised to see JFK-AGP as didn't realise the Americans were into the Costa Del Sol like us Brits! I would have thought other cities in Spain would have seen an NYC service before Malaga, it is a large regional city for the area but their are many larger cities in Spain like Seville, Las Palmas, Bilbao, Jerez and Valencia with no direct service....

Didn't IB used to fly AGP-JFK in the past with DC-10?
 
worldtraveler
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:56 pm

The 763 is very capable of flying to the Middle East from NYC... TW did it for years. DL will be putting winglets on its 767s which will reduce fuel burn up to 6% on flights of that length.

DL is obviously doing very well to Africa given its upgauging of its ATL-DKR-JNB flight (which has succeeded without PTV in coach) and increasing frequencies to ACC.
 
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:58 pm

Shouldn't there be more, especially with the 752s?

Consider that there are 15 752s coming, sample utilization could be like this:

JFK-SNN (already known)
JFK-MAN (already known; replacing 763)
JFK-FRA (already known; replacing 763)
JFK-EDI (already known; replacing 763 ATL-EDI)
JFK-BRU (already known; replacing 763)
JFK-AMS (possibly)
JFK-DUB (possibly)
JFK-TXL (possibly)
JFK-CDG (possibly)
JFK-AGP (already known; new)

That's still just 10 planes....where are the others going??? Inquiring minds want to know....

[Edited 2007-09-25 17:04:49]
 
EBGflyer
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:06 am

There was a rumour that JFK-CPH was on the list as well. How about that one?
Future flights: CPH-BOS; CPH-SVG; CPH-PVG-HKG-MNL-DVO; CPH-CDG; CPH-NRT; CPH-MIA; CPH-PVG
 
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:07 am

Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 2):
Shame no LTN-JFK service to be launched!

Why on earth would they launch that....?
 
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:08 am

Quoting Positiverate (Thread starter):
Dakar, Senegal (effective June 2)*;
Nairobi, Kenya (via Dakar) (effective June 2)*;
and Cape Town, South Africa (via Dakar) (effective June 3)*.

Sounds like alternating service, e.g. 4x weekly JFK-DKR-NBO and 3x weekly JFK-DKR-CPT.

Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 2):
Surprised to see JFK-AGP as didn't realise the Americans were into the Costa Del Sol like us Brits

An article in a German aviation magazine a few months ago had an article about how AGP was trying to set up some subsidies to launch transatlantic service. Looks like they got them together, and DL took up the offer akin to their PSA flights.
Overall, great selection of new routes if proven true, definitely good to see DL fully expand in Africa. That should put them at 7 destinations, not bad.
 
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:09 am

Certainly seems that Delta is quite pleased with Africa performance, my guess is cargo is also fueling success on this route.

early bird certainly got the worm in this case....
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:26 am

Quoting FoxBravo (Reply 5):
I'm guessing JFK-DKR-CPT and JFK-DKR-NBO might operate on alternate days, with the JFK-DKR flight timed to allow connections to JNB

DKR is *so* much fun to connect through Silly
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:36 am

Will any of the Cross Country flights suffer from the increase in International flights during those "peak" times?
 
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:37 am

a reminder that LHR is coming... apparently to be announced separately.
 
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:47 am

Quoting Panamair (Reply 9):
That's still just 10 planes....where are the others going??? Inquiring minds want to know....

What's missing is the ATL announcement:

Also hearing ATL- REC, LPZ, ASU all on the 757; MVD, GLA on the 767ER and of course ARL is out of the bag as well as China today.
 
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:53 am

Quoting WorldTraveler (Reply 8):
DL is obviously doing very well to Africa given its upgauging of its ATL-DKR-JNB flight (which has succeeded without PTV in coach) and increasing frequencies to ACC.

Good news that DL is doing well on its Africa and I would bet that less than 1% of its higher yield passengers would ever care about lack of PTV. If all this new service does take place, it will be quite an ambitious step.
 
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:00 am

I have a feeling that B 764ERs would be used on certain African routes such as CPT and NBO instead of B 763ERs.

The biggest surprise for me is JFK-AMM with the B 763ER. I dont know why DL is interested in AMM when RJ already serves this market segment adequately. AMM is now a small scale one world hub as RJ is a part of that alliance so even more bewildering.

The only reason I feel DL wants to fly to AMM is because of the high yield business class traffic that can be gotten from U.S. politicians / diplomats who can fly via AMM to DAM & BEY, BAGHDAD and to AMM itself. These people as per U.S Govt law have to fly an American carrier to the furthest point of their journey.

[Edited 2007-09-25 18:20:08]
 
PVD757
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:07 am

no JFK-LIS? I'm sort of surprised...
 
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:10 am

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 19):
I have a feeling that B 764ERs would be used on certain African routes such as CPT

Even better if i can do ATL-DKR (change) - CPT on all 764s!
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:11 am

JFK-LYS on the 752 seemed like a no brainer as well. Hopefully we'll see that one before too long. I know some friends who would be VERY happy to see that route start. Lyon is a beautiful city and it's the 2nd most important business market in France. Filling a 752 would probably not be a problem.
 
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:12 am

Quoting Panamair (Reply 9):
JFK-AMS (possibly)
JFK-DUB (possibly)
JFK-TXL (possibly)
JFK-CDG (possibly)

AMS is now showing up as a 757. The others are still listed as 767s.

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 14):
DKR is *so* much fun to connect through

Not saying it is (although in fairness I've never been). Nor am I saying they should set up their next major hub there. However, if they've got two flights crossing paths at DKR, assuming the airport logistics could be worked out, wouldn't it make sense to allow passengers to switch between them?
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:30 am

Quoting Exusair (Reply 17):

Also hearing ATL- REC, LPZ, ASU all on the 757;

ATL-REC can't happen right now, there is no route authority. La Paz also requires route authority application, and can't handle a non-stop 757 to Atlanta. Asunción, also, cannot handle a non-stop 757 to Atlanta. If they are going to expand into South America, what is logical is Medellin (though, again, they would need to get route authority) and Montevideo (Open Skies).
a.
 
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:31 am

so far, I've found these:

effective mid DEC:

JFK-GUA 0945-1353 345 738 TFS
GUA-JFK 1445-2030 344 738 TFS

JFK-PTY 0825-1335 343 738 MWRJ
PTY-JFK 1435-1947 342 738 MWRJ

JFK-POS 1400-1955 351 738 RJ
POS-JFK 0830-1250 350 738 RJ

effective mid FEB:

JFK-LIR 1030-1440 347 757 WJ
LIR-JFK 1530-2145 346 757 WJ

JFK-SJO 1030-1449 349 757 MTRFS
SJO-JFK 1549-2154 348 757 MTRFS

[Edited 2007-09-25 18:40:15]
 
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:35 am

Quoting PVD757 (Reply 25):
so far, I've found these:

JFK-SJO and JFK-LIR are also loaded, with 757s.

Am I crazy, or were these Latin American routes out of JFK announced previously?
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:44 am

Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 2):
Shame no LTN-JFK service to be launched!

No disrespect meant but there really is no market from New York to Luton. It's only good for charter carriers or niche operators.

Reggaebird
 
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:44 am

Quoting PVD757 (Reply 25):
so far, I've found these:

JFK-GUA 0945-1353 345 738 TFS
GUA-JFK 1445-2030 344 738 TFS

JFK-PTY 0825-1335 343 738 MWRJ
PTY-JFK 1435-1947 342 738 MWRJ

JFK-POS 1400-1955 351 738 RJ
POS-JFK 0830-1250 350 738 RJ



Quoting FoxBravo (Reply 26):
Am I crazy, or were these Latin American routes out of JFK announced previously?

These were already announced at the end of June:
http://news.delta.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=10757

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 19):
The only reason I feel DL wants to fly to AMM is because of the high yield business class traffic that can be gotten from U.S. politicians / diplomats who can fly via AMM to DAM & BEY, BAGHDAD and to AMM itself. These people as per U.S Govt law have to fly an American carrier to the furthest point of their journey.

Certainly played a big part..considering that AMM is a common connection point to Iraq - I believe RJ has nonstops from AMM to both Baghdad and Basra currently.
 
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:46 am

Quoting Panamair (Reply 28):
These were already announced at the end of June:
http://news.delta.com/article_displa...10757

Thanks--I thought those routes sounded familiar!
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nycfly75
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:52 am

I am rather surprised there arent a few more routes being launched to Europe, especially to places like Lisbon.
 
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:54 am

Quoting FoxBravo (Reply 23):
However, if they've got two flights crossing paths at DKR, assuming the airport logistics could be worked out, wouldn't it make sense to allow passengers to switch between them?

Of course, but after spending several hours in DKR, and from what I've heard of others' experiences, I could see a lot of people making their first connection through DKR also their last.
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FoxBravo
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:03 am

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 31):

Of course, but after spending several hours in DKR, and from what I've heard of others' experiences, I could see a lot of people making their first connection through DKR also their last.

Ok, fair enough! http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/...07/05/25/askthepilot233/index.html

However, if connecting passengers between the two flights is not what they had in mind, I wonder why the NBO flight would stop there and not somewhere else--for example CMN, which is a more direct routing and has the added benefit of the AT codeshare.
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:15 am

I will be truly amazed if LIS and LYS are not announced on WED!
 
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:16 am

Kind of happy and disappointed at the same time. Where's all the Europe?

What happened to:
LYS
HEL
WAW
LED
ZAG
CMN
??
The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
 
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:17 am

here is a sample of the 757 TATL flying I've found so far on 6/20/08 (a Friday):

JFK to:

MAN
EDI
SNN
AMS
BRU
FRA
 
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:30 am

Amman and Cairo, it seems they are going every where. Amman to JFK by 767 seems tight in the desert hot temperatures of Jordan in the summer. Royal Jordanian stopped in Amsterdam for years when they flew 747 until the Airbus fleet took over. They flew with L1011-500 too.
 
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:56 am

Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 10):
There was a rumour that JFK-CPH was on the list as well. How about that one?

Yes where is JFK-CPH on that list...
 
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:00 am

I'm going to play armchair CEO here for a moment:

Looks like Delta has Africa pretty much covered. The only two spots I might see that need to be filled are CMN and HRE.

As for the Middle East, I'm sort of shocked by AMM. Delta is a very ambitious carrier that will fly just about anywhere, with the 763's at least. In the future when Delta gets the aircraft I can see KWI, DOH/BAH, AUH, and BEY if possible.

There are still a few spots in Europe where I think Delta could be succesfull in, including WAW, LED, HEL, ZAG, LYS, GLA, NAP, and LIS. I wish Delta would try Sofia but I don't think it will happen.

South America is sort of a mess with Brazil. I am not sure what the status is on getting these rights, but hopefully Delta could start service to BSB, SSA, REC, and FOR. I doubt these will happen for a while though. As for the rest of South America maybe MVD, ASU, and LAP.

SYD, AKL, and MEL would be nice, however Delta doesn't have the aircraft unless they feel like routing them through HNL.

And lastly, in the Orient, I'd like to see KIX, NGO, CTS, PEK, HKG, BKK, SIN, and maybe TPE.

Then Delta would be a true global carrier, however these destinations aren't likely to come until Delta takes orders for more 787's or 777's.
The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
 
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:09 am

I guess Malaga is the one on that list that surprises me most... along with the fact that DL really seems to be establishing a mini-hub of sorts at DKR.

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 34):
Kind of happy and disappointed at the same time. Where's all the Europe?

What happened to:
LYS
HEL
WAW
LED
ZAG
CMN

CMN is not really Europe...  Wink

Quoting PVD757 (Reply 35):
here is a sample of the 757 TATL flying I've found so far on 6/20/08 (a Friday):

JFK to:

MAN
EDI
SNN
AMS
BRU
FRA

So when did JFK-FRA get downgraded? I'm certain that I still saw a B767 listed in either Sabre or Amadeus until not that long ago...
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:11 am

Quoting Positiverate (Thread starter):
Nine new trans-Atlantic routes with nonstop service between JFK and:
Amman, Jordan (effective June 5)*;
Cairo, Egypt (effective June 4)*;
Edinburgh, Scotland (effective May 1);
Lagos, Nigeria (effective June 9)*;
Malaga, Spain (effective June 4)*;
Tel Aviv, Israel (effective March 10)*;
Dakar, Senegal (effective June 2)*;
Nairobi, Kenya (via Dakar) (effective June 2)*;
and Cape Town, South Africa (via Dakar) (effective June 3)*.

Just checked with our res system....the following have already been loaded!!!

Amman
Cairo
Edinburgh
Lagos
Malaga
Tel Aviv
Dakar
Nairobi



Did not check the Latin America flights......


Why wait for announcements when you can just check res???
 
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:13 am

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 38):

Looks like Delta has Africa pretty much covered. The only two spots I might see that need to be filled are CMN and HRE.

Harare?!? are you for real? do you know about the 7000% inflation rate there?

I think the only one missing in Africa is CMN, although an extension to ADD might work with the amount of Ethiopians in the Washington DC and NYC area.
 
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:18 am

Nairobi has not been served by a U.S carrier since Pan Am, I believe. Once again, DL has proved that it is truly a global carrier.
 
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:20 am

Quoting Xkorpyoh (Reply 41):
I think the only one missing in Africa is CMN, although an extension to ADD might work with the amount of Ethiopians in the Washington DC and NYC area.

Delta codeshares with Royal Air Maroc to CMN from JFK.
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:23 am

Quoting OOer (Reply 40):
Just checked with our res system....the following have already been loaded!!!

Amman
Cairo
Edinburgh
Lagos
Malaga
Tel Aviv
Dakar
Nairobi

Dont know about the rest but JFK-EDI has been on sale for ages.

Gaz
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:26 am

Quoting Xkorpyoh (Reply 41):
Harare?!? are you for real?

All I said was I looked at Delta's African destinations on Great Circle Mapper. I noticed Delta has just about every point in Africa covered, except for Northwest and Central. So I threw CMN and HRE out there.
The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
 
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:28 am

Quoting Exusair (Reply 17):
Also hearing ATL- REC, LPZ, ASU all on the 757; MVD, GLA on the 767ER

When will we hear about those...(if they are indeed true?)
 
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:31 am

Quoting BY738 (Reply 46):
Quoting Exusair (Reply 17):
Also hearing ATL- REC, LPZ, ASU all on the 757; MVD, GLA on the 767ER

When will we hear about those...(if they are indeed true?)

While anything is possible, I wouldn't count on them happening. I have a feeling that Stockholm and Shanghai might have been "the big announcement" for Atlanta, although I had been hearing Sydney rumours lately.
a.
 
FoxBravo
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:38 am

Quoting OOer (Reply 40):
Just checked with our res system....the following have already been loaded!!!

Cool! Here's what I've found so far on Delta.com for the Africa/Middle East routes, all on 763s:

JFK-DKR is daily, and does in fact offer onward connections to JNB (on the ATL-originating 764). The flights leaving JFK on Mon/Wed/Fri continue on to NBO, and ATL pax can also connect via DKR.

JFK-LOS is also daily, in addition to the daily ATL-LOS.

JFK-CAI is 5-weekly, and interestingly was assigned the "prestigious" flight numbers DL10/DL11.

JFK-AMM is 4-weekly.

No sign of CPT yet.
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RE: DL JFK Announcements Tomorrow

Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:39 am

JFK-AMM DL26
Departs: 420 PM
Arrives: 1000 AM

AMM-JFK DL23
Departs: 1200 PM
Arrives: 635 PM
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JFK-CAI DL10
Departs: 420 PM
Arrives: 1035 AM

CAI-JFK DL9
Departs: 1230 PM
Arrives: 540 PM
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JFK-DKR DL128
Departs: 350 PM
Arrives: 405 AM

DKR-JFK DL219
Departs: 205 AM
Arrives: 615 AM
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JFK-LOS DL142
Departs: 640 PM
Arrives: 1105 PM

LOS-JFK DL143
Departs: 1250 PM
Arrives: 645 PM

[Edited 2007-09-25 20:44:10]
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