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QF Buys 7 Ex BA 767s

Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:04 pm

I'm not sure if this has been reported before, but QF have decided to buy the 7 Ex BA 767s when the lease was up earlier in the year.

http://www.vpmag.com/yssy/viewtopic.php?t=20115
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RE: QF Buys 7 Ex BA 767s

Sat Sep 29, 2007 1:51 am

Is this QF 763 sub-fleet used throughout the 763 network? Or just restricted to some routes?
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RE: QF Buys 7 Ex BA 767s

Sat Sep 29, 2007 7:24 am

Domestic routes only- different type of business class.
 
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RE: QF Buys 7 Ex BA 767s

Sat Sep 29, 2007 8:06 am

[quote=ETA Unknown,reply=2]Domestic routes only- different type of business class.
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I was on a couple of these birds 2 days ago and they had the usual 763 BC international class of 1-2-2. Of course they aren't pods but pretty good for domestic.
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RE: QF Buys 7 Ex BA 767s

Sat Sep 29, 2007 8:09 am

Quoting Qantas787 (Reply 3):
I was on a couple of these birds 2 days ago and they had the usual 763 BC international class of 1-2-2. Of course they aren't pods but pretty good for domestic.

The EX BA 767's (RR) are in a domestic cofig of 2-2-2 only. QF's Domestic 767 (GE's) are also in 2-2-2 in J

All International 767's are QF GE in a 2-2-1 config.
 
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RE: QF Buys 7 Ex BA 767s

Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:44 am

Quoting ANstar (Reply 4):
The EX BA 767's (RR) are in a domestic cofig of 2-2-2 only. QF's Domestic 767 (GE's) are also in 2-2-2 in J

All International 767's are QF GE in a 2-2-1 config.

Thanks for the clarification ANstar, but when I said birds I was just generically talking of QF 767's. The flights were purely domestic and the ones used had the 1-2-2 international seating. The main point I am making is the fact that both seat plans are being used on domestic sectors.
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RE: QF Buys 7 Ex BA 767s

Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:04 am

Quoting Qantas787 (Reply 5):
The main point I am making is the fact that both seat plans are being used on domestic sectors.

I wish my 767 PER-MEL had the international config. Overnight in the domestic config stinks. I was so tired at MEL, but luckily I had the SYD-LAX sector in F to get some good sleep...  Wink And a nice breakfast MEL-SYD in J.
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RE: QF Buys 7 Ex BA 767s

Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:44 am

I am suprised that didnt try to extend the lease as with the 787's arriving in 3 or 4 years they will fase them out, like buying something just to throw is away again. Unless of course they got a good $$$$$
 
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RE: QF Buys 7 Ex BA 767s

Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:54 am

Hopefully QF will consider modifying the galleys to QF standards... BUT considering the aircraft have operated in the fleet for more than 7 years without any major issues... I dont see it happening... Any idea as to how much it cost to modify the galleys to QF standard?

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RE: QF Buys 7 Ex BA 767s

Sat Sep 29, 2007 11:30 am

Wonder if they will winglet their 767's
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RE: QF Buys 7 Ex BA 767s

Sat Sep 29, 2007 11:56 am

Quoting EK413 (Reply 8):
Hopefully QF will consider modifying the galleys to QF standards... BUT considering the aircraft have operated in the fleet for more than 7 years without any major issues... I dont see it happening... Any idea as to how much it cost to modify the galleys to QF standard?

There is no QF standard so far as 763s are concerned... there about 6 different setups...
So far as GE vs RR powered birds it is impossible to have the same standar anyway as the RR have 4 sets of doors whereas the GE only have 2 sets plus 2 overwing exit pairs.
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RE: QF Buys 7 Ex BA 767s

Sat Sep 29, 2007 1:02 pm

Quoting ERAUgrad02 (Reply 9):
Wonder if they will winglet their 767's

Why bother? QF 763's will only be basically domestic birds once the 787's start arriving and they don't have any problems making Australian trans con and trans Tasman range.

Isn't there also an issue with not being able to get winglets until 2010 ish or something? I tried to find where I read about that but couldn't.

Quoting TruemanQLD (Reply 7):
I am suprised that didnt try to extend the lease as with the 787's arriving in 3 or 4 years they will fase them out, like buying something just to throw is away again. Unless of course they got a good $$$$$

It was probably more a case of buy them or lose them because BA wouldn't want the planes back once the 787's start coming online. Plus QF probably got a good price from them as well and, obviously, BA didn't need them.
 
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RE: QF Buys 7 Ex BA 767s

Sat Sep 29, 2007 1:31 pm

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 10):
There is no QF standard so far as 763s are concerned

The QF standard I'm referring to is the galley equipment, carts,stowage boxes,bins etc...

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RE: QF Buys 7 Ex BA 767s

Sat Sep 29, 2007 2:45 pm

Quoting Sydscott (Reply 11):
It was probably more a case of buy them or lose them because BA wouldn't want the planes back once the 787's start coming online. Plus QF probably got a good price from them as well and, obviously, BA didn't need them.

I'm not sure with the very high cycles these aircraft have done that BA would have wanted them back, hence the sale.
 
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RE: QF Buys 7 Ex BA 767s

Sat Sep 29, 2007 3:06 pm

What's with Qantas buying second hand from BA?
 
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RE: QF Buys 7 Ex BA 767s

Sat Sep 29, 2007 3:07 pm

Quoting TruemanQLD (Reply 7):
I am suprised that didnt try to extend the lease as with the 787's arriving in 3 or 4 years they will fase them out, like buying something just to throw is away again. Unless of course they got a good $$$$$

Who knows... te BA/QF relationship doesnt seem as strong as it once was. to be honest I don;t know why QF bothered buying them.

Perhaps BA turned around and said lease is up you either buy them or return them. QF would not have been able to cope with 7 x 767's leaving the fleet, so BA could have asked a good rpice for them.
 
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RE: QF Buys 7 Ex BA 767s

Sat Sep 29, 2007 4:44 pm

Quoting AznCSA4QF744ER (Reply 14):
What's with Qantas buying second hand from BA?

Back when they arrived QF had something of a capacity crisis, with Ansett's troubles then collapse, basically needed to expand quickly, with the downturn in Northern Hemisphere then 9/11 these were available.
I am sure the price after the lease expired was pretty good, would BA want them back after they had been thrasged on 1 hr sectors for 7+ years?
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