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New Heathrow Terminal To Alter Train Stops

Mon Oct 01, 2007 2:57 pm

Heathrow Express recently announced a change in its service to the London-area airport that will take effect when Terminal 5, to be used by British Airways, opens in March. The trains now make 15- to 23-minute trips between the four terminals at Heathrow and Paddington Station in central London. They will run to the fifth terminal when it opens but will bypass the fourth, which passengers will reach by changing trains at the airport. One-way fares will still be £15.50, or $31.78 at $2.05 to the pound, one pound less if you book online at www.heathrowexpress.com.

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RE: New Heathrow Terminal To Alter Train Stops

Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:14 pm

Thats the problem with having 3 separate terminal areas. I think LHR is the only one with this problem.

CDG, ORD, SYD have 2 separate terminal areas, but they don't have much problem dealing with interlocking.
 
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RE: New Heathrow Terminal To Alter Train Stops

Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:59 pm

The Underground services (currently serving T4 then T123) will be amended. There will be 2 routes, T4 then T123 on a loop exactly as now, and T123 then T5, terminating at T5. The T5 services will be slightly more frequent than the loop service.

The Heathrow Express (HEX) currently serves T123, then T4.
The Heathrow Connect service (HCON) currently terminates at T123 with a change to the HEX for T4.
Once T5 is open the HCON goes T123 then T4 (change at T123 for T5) and the HEX goes T123 (change for T4) then T5
 
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RE: New Heathrow Terminal To Alter Train Stops

Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:27 pm

Quoting Mutu (Reply 2):
The Heathrow Express (HEX) currently serves T123, then T4.
The Heathrow Connect service (HCON) currently terminates at T123 with a change to the HEX for T4.
Once T5 is open the HCON goes T123 then T4 (change at T123 for T5) and the HEX goes T123 (change for T4) then T5

It's not been thought out properly has it? That is just so confusing. That must be BAA thinking.  boggled 

Imagine getting off a Japan flight (or being Japanese) and having to deal with that first thing.  crazy 
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mutu
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RE: New Heathrow Terminal To Alter Train Stops

Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:45 pm

Quoting Babybus (Reply 3):

well for arriving passengers it is in fact quite simple. There is a tube option from every terminal to central london and a train service (either Hex or HCON) to Paddington, just one HCON takes about 10 minutes longer but costs about 50% of the HEX fare!!

Its departing passengers who could get a bit confused..unless they stick to the tube
 
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RE: New Heathrow Terminal To Alter Train Stops

Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:56 pm

I have heard that T5 hasn't been built where it was expected to be when T4 was built and that there's even a bit of wider tunnel on the tube between T123 and T4 where it was expected to be. This is the only real way to do without creatinga single new loop that goes to T5 and T4 which would of cost a fortune - I wonder what they'll do when T6 comes along as this will be to the North of T123 with T5 being West and T4 being South East?
 
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RE: New Heathrow Terminal To Alter Train Stops

Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:17 pm

Surely - it would have been much easier to just build a new Heathrow Bus and Tube terminal hub and have shuttle buses or a monorail connecting each terminal.

BTW - i 'departed' from T5 recently on an MAS flight to KUL (as our plane was parked at a T5 gate) last week and it was a LONG transit ride on a very uncomfortable bus from Gate 14 in T3 through a long tunnel to arrive at T5. Will do a 'trip report' soon when I have time...
 
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RE: New Heathrow Terminal To Alter Train Stops

Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:20 pm

T6 (HEX) is a stop enroute to T123. I have not seen any drawings with the tube arrangement. Beyond T6, there is talk of knocking down the hangers for further terminals and satellites. These are very preliminary and no firm details are available publicly.
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RE: New Heathrow Terminal To Alter Train Stops

Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:28 pm

T6 is to be north of 1/2/3 now? I recall at one point it was going to be roughly where Hatton Cross/
Myrtle Avenue (spotters) Park is!
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RE: New Heathrow Terminal To Alter Train Stops

Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:49 pm

Quoting MAS777 (Reply 6):
BTW - i 'departed' from T5 recently on an MAS flight to KUL (as our plane was parked at a T5 gate) last week and it was a LONG transit ride on a very uncomfortable bus from Gate 14 in T3 through a long tunnel to arrive at T5. Will do a 'trip report' soon when I have time...

Many of the stands are open along T5B and T5C. They are normally used for long term remote parking but sometimes they are used as live stands.

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RE: New Heathrow Terminal To Alter Train Stops

Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:53 pm

Quoting Voodoo (Reply 8):
T6 is to be north of 1/2/3 now? I recall at one point it was going to be roughly where Hatton Cross/
Myrtle Avenue (spotters) Park is!

About here:



Actual extent of the land reserved and the locations of the runway/taxiway/terminal are not confirmed yet.

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RE: New Heathrow Terminal To Alter Train Stops

Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:35 pm

Quoting HowSwedeitis (Thread starter):
One-way fares will still be £15.50

Will it still be free between terminals?
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RE: New Heathrow Terminal To Alter Train Stops

Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:37 pm

Yes the Heathrow Express and Connect services would still be free for transferring between terminals (HEX between T1/2/3 and T5, HEC between T1/2/3 and T4) - the Tube services are not free and will retain charges.

Yes, it can be a bit confusing. The other thing is that the Heathrow Express is nonstop between T1/2/3 and Paddington and runs every 15 minutes while the Connect stops 3 or 5 times on the way to T1/2/3 (Ealing Broadway, West Ealing (ex Sun), Hanwell (ex Sun), Southall and Hayes & Harlington) and runs half-hourly. While the Connect is thus a slower service it may be advantageous to use it outwards from the airport if, say, one has a destination which could be reached by changing to the Tube at Ealing Broadway, for instance.

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