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EK New Dest For Year 2008

Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:45 am

Hi,

Any idea approx when EK will be announcing its new routes from next year?

Average EK opens 6 to 8 new dest a year...

Whats the next African dest?

Whats the next South American dest?

Where next in Asia?

Australia frequenct increased?

And what about the US?....

Any new or increase in frequencu to Canada? (i doubt)

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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:15 am

Quoting KissK (Thread starter):

Any new or increase in frequencu to Canada? (i doubt)

Really looking forward to some routes in western canada, with YYZ starting up YYC or YVR should not be far in the pipeline.
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:20 am

Quoting KissK (Thread starter):
Whats the next South American dest?

I think it will be EZE but of course on the wish list would be CCS
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:22 am

I hope CPH. Would be obvious to offer all those sun loving Scandinavians tons of onward connections from DBX, if not Dubai itself (SK starts CPH-DBX 31Oct2007).

As many probably know EK already announced this route back in 2005, but bailed out. Some say it was due to equiment shortage others say the cartoon controversy made them change their minds. The demand is definitely there, although mostly leisure I would think.

I still hope an EK a332 would find it's way to CPH.

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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:26 am

are there any updates with AMS... ?? I think this airport is still a big lack in the routemap of them ...
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:31 am

Hi,

Emirates, as well as Etihad, are in talks at getting gov't approval to start services to ALG. So, DXB-ALG could be a reality in the near future. Currently, only AH serves that route with their A332s.

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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:54 am

How about sending an A332 to DUB since EI are leaving the route.
 
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:12 am

emirates has stated that once a new bilateral is worked out between UAE and Canada offering additional frequencies, they would like to fly DXB-YYC. They want to take advantage of the oil traffic. I"m thinking 2009 but maybe 2008
 
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:14 am

Quoting Evolv (Reply 7):
emirates has stated that once a new bilateral is worked out between UAE and Canada offering additional frequencies, they would like to fly DXB-YYC.

Any idea when this new bilateral could happen?
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:09 am

the Canadian government has said try the DXB-YYZ route for a year or so and once demand is established they will start offering more frequencies accordingly. this is why i'm thinking 2009 instead of 2008. but who knows maybe the government will grant it sooner
 
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:18 am

I understand they will add a 3rd daily flight to Melbourne and possibly Sydney.

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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:15 am

I think destinations like CPH and AMS are very likely, especially AMS is, already said, a very big lack in their network. I also think they are looking into opening service to CCS (could there be any problems?). Also MAD, BCN and LIS should be on there wish list...
Does anyone think EK would open service to OSL and ABZ any time soon?
 
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:45 pm

I would say we will see the following in 2008

DXB-ADL

DXB-CPT/DUR

DXB-LAX OR SFO

DXB-YVR OR YYC (MAYBE BOTH)

DXB-ATQ (NOT SURE IF THIS WAS LAREADY ANNOUNCED?)

DXB-LAD (SUBJECT TO GOVERMENT APPROVAL)

DXB-DKR

DXB-EZE

DXB-MEX

The list goes on and on - just shows EK have a lots more destinations to start!!
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:48 am

Quoting KissK (Thread starter):
And what about the US?....

DXB-ORD and DXB-LAX are likely a given... as I've said many times before, Tim Clark said that EK would be flying to ORD by now if it weren't for the A380 delays.

I wouldn't be surprised to see EK start DXB-IAD and/or DXB-SFO, either.
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:12 am

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 13):
DXB-ORD and DXB-LAX are likely a given... as I've said many times before, Tim Clark said that EK would be flying to ORD by now if it weren't for the A380 delays.

I wouldn't be surprised to see EK start DXB-IAD and/or DXB-SFO, either.

Emirates was going to start SFO-DXB about two years ago. It was even loaded into booking systems for a few days.

Emirates to San Francsico, Chicago, Dulles, and Los Angeles in the short term are an absolute given. Also, Emirates service to Vancouver, Miami, Newark, Caracas, and Rio de Janeiro are probably also "a given", but not for at least 3 years. Boston, Detroit, Seattle, and Dallas seem like strong candidates as well.
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:45 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 14):
Emirates was going to start SFO-DXB about two years ago. It was even loaded into booking systems for a few days.

yes it was going to start in January 2005 with the A 345s nonstop from DXB and the schedules were posted on EK's website in fall 2004 and then disappeared.

definitely one U.S. West Coast city at least will be launched in 2008.

i have a question here for anyone who currently works for EK or has in the past...why hasnt EK ever ventured into the Central Asian markets of Tashkent or Almaty??? especially TAS!!!

As far as Europe goes, I would like to see MAD launched before any other EU destination as I feel that route (DXB-MAD-DXB daily with the A 332) has more potential than CPH/AMS/ARN/OSL/BRU/GVA! The reason why I wrote daily to MAD is because thats EK's new business philosophy if the Spain-UAE bilateral is a liberal one i.e. daily or nothing lol.
 
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:47 am

Quoting EmiratesUK (Reply 12):
DXB-LAX OR SFO


Both?

Quoting EmiratesUK (Reply 12):
DXB-ADL

Pushing it... maybe late '08 or '09

Quoting EmiratesUK (Reply 12):
DXB-YVR OR YYC (MAYBE BOTH)

YVR before YYC. YVR = '08 YYC = '09

Quoting EmiratesUK (Reply 12):
DXB-EZE

Definetly

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 14):
Boston, Detroit, Seattle, and Dallas seem like strong candidates as well.

Maybe it will be 2008- the year of North America?

Quoting VH-BZF (Reply 10):
I understand they will add a 3rd daily flight to Melbourne and possibly Sydney.

Sorry to ask but why more capacity to MEL rather than SYD as SYD is a much larger airport with more passengers.

BNE will almost definetly go 2 x Daily before EY start 1 x daily
 
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:39 am

I think they will hit up more of the US.

In Asia...

They are waiting for slots to open at NRT (2009) and when they open up, I bet EK will be begging for more than one.

I think they could serve CAN, Hanoi, and SGN.
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:25 am

What about GVA, they postponed it already twice due to shortage of aircrafts.
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:37 am

Quoting FlySwiss (Reply 18):
What about GVA, they postponed it already twice due to shortage of aircrafts.

There is no such thing as shortage of aircraft at EK, no matter what the airline claims. Utilization rates of the exisiting fleet is low and EK could get much more out of its active fleet if it wanted. There have been crew related problems on and off, but I don't know whether these have meanwhile been resolved. I guess that "aircraft shortage" sounds sexier than "crew shortage."
 
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:03 am

DXB-AMS would be a real money-maker, but afaik they aren't allowed to do that route. the same goes for EY and QR.

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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:10 am

Quoting Avianca (Reply 2):
I think it will be EZE but of course on the wish list would be CCS

When I read the title of this thread the first thing I thought was CCS! I believe that it could be a succesful route not only pax-wise, but also cargo. Also, the onward connections to Asia will help them attract some traffic.
 
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:17 am

I wish they start flying to

Almaty, Kazakhstan
 
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:25 am

Quoting VH-BZF (Reply 10):

If this is true, then they should go via BKK. With the right scheduling, this would allow EK to provide flights from HKG-BKK-SYD and HKG-BKK-MEL immediately.

With the addition of other new flights using BKK as a secondary hub, such as to BKK-PVG and BKK-PEK, then a good network of Asia-Pacific flights could emerge.

Maybe we could even see HKG-SFO or HKG-LAX.
 
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:29 am

And what about Chili for the next S/Am route!!!
 
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:58 am

Emirates should also start serving Ankara ESB from DXB
 
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:21 pm

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 20):
DXB-AMS would be a real money-maker, but afaik they aren't allowed to do that route

Sorry, forgive my ignorance, but why would EK not be allowed to do DXB-AMS while KLM is allowed to do AMS-DXB. Doesn't a bilateral give both parties the right to fly to each others destinations?
If EK really would not have these rights I'd put some pressure on some people within the UAE and "review" KLM's rights.
 
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:07 pm

Hope we can see a Scandinavian city be operated by EK soon. Maybe CPH or even ARN/HEL.

But CPH is the candidate.
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:29 pm

Quoting KissK (Reply 24):
And what about Chili for the next S/Am route!!!

I think EK could fly EZE-SCL but definitely no non-stop service...would they even have an ac that could do the rout DXB-SCL non-stop?
Given the oil factor, I think EK is probably looking into serving CCS. LAD should also be of interest for EK.
 
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:49 pm

Quoting Adicool (Reply 28):
LAD

Doesn't EK already serve LAD???

If not that city will probably see EK next year.
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:58 pm

From what I know EK has not enough A/C to start that many cities next year. They want to expand the current cities already.

Quoting B747forever (Reply 27):
Hope we can see a Scandinavian city be operated by EK soon. Maybe CPH or even ARN/HEL.

But CPH is the candidate.

I doubt that ARN or HEL will come soon. Also CPH is in question. I guess that has something to do with the fact that all Danish products disappeared last year from shops all over the Middle East.  Smile
 
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:13 pm

Quoting TruemanQLD (Reply 16):

YVR before YYC. YVR = '08 YYC = '09

You are probably right, YYC can provide feeder traffic into YVR as well. I would be happy with any of these destinations, YYZ is a too long a hop from western canada.
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:16 pm

How's the tourist traffic between the UAE and Florida? Perhaps DXB-MCO or MIA if the numbers fit. Just an idea.
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:27 pm

Quoting Flynavy (Reply 32):
How's the tourist traffic between the UAE and Florida? Perhaps DXB-MCO or MIA if the numbers fit. Just an idea.

I think you will likely see DXB-MIA 4-6 years down the line. It has nothing to do with the tourist traffic though, it is to give Miami easy connections tot the Middle East, India, etc.

Emirates recently hosted a global "road show" hosting media dinners and showing off their product, and Miami was one of the cities they stopped at.
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:20 am

Quoting TruemanQLD (Reply 16):
YVR before YYC. YVR = '08 YYC = '09

Emirates was recently in Calgary for a roadshow which included Toronto but not Vancouver. One of the senior mangers from Emirates stated their intention to serve YYC once a new bilateral was worked. So i would disagree that YVR would be served first. A few points came out

1. Alot of business traffic between YYC and DXB (where the money is for airlines)
2. Alot of cargo between the two cities, obviously oil related but also alot of agri cargo
 
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:54 am

Quoting EmiratesUK (Reply 12):
DXB-MEX

That would be awesome. I think whenever that happens, they will do it via a European city... there is a new Mexico-U.A.E. bilateral that allows that. What do you think?
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:58 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 33):
I think you will likely see DXB-MIA 4-6 years down the line. It has nothing to do with the tourist traffic though, it is to give Miami easy connections tot the Middle East, India, etc.

Emirates recently hosted a global "road show" hosting media dinners and showing off their product, and Miami was one of the cities they stopped at.

Interesting - surely there is tourist traffic between the Middle East and Central Florida. Saudi Arabian used to fly Riyadh-JFK-MCO until the early 2000's. At the rate the UAE is growing surely MIA and MCO have a chance. Can't wait!  Smile
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:08 am

Hardly anybody mentioning WAW, PRG or BUD. Could be a possiblilty with QR apparently set for WAW in March.

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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:19 am

Quoting Adicool (Reply 11):
Does anyone think EK would open service to OSL and ABZ any time soon?

The day EK launch ABZ will be the day they take delivery of a STOL capable A330.... the runway is only 1800m!
 
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:46 am

DUB's runway, though not that long (8,650') could handle 777 flights to MIA, MEX and indeed anywhere else that EK might wish to send them; with EI now likely to pull out of DXB, EK would be very welcome. Now that Open Skies has been agreed between Ireland and the US, there are many markets, of which MIA is only one, that EK would be welcome to choose. It only has a limited number of 77Ls and the 747-8 - if they are actually ordered - won't be around until 2010, so there is a need for some European en route point and DUB, as the capital of Europe's fastest growing economies - would be an ideal en route point ...
 
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:38 pm

Quoting Nighthawk (Reply 38):
The day EK launch ABZ will be the day they take delivery of a STOL capable A330.... the runway is only 1800m!

long enough to start ABZ-IAH service!
 
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:52 pm

Quoting Evolv (Reply 34):
Quoting TruemanQLD (Reply 16):
YVR before YYC. YVR = '08 YYC = '09

Emirates was recently in Calgary for a roadshow which included Toronto but not Vancouver. One of the senior mangers from Emirates stated their intention to serve YYC once a new bilateral was worked. So i would disagree that YVR would be served first. A few points came out

1. Alot of business traffic between YYC and DXB (where the money is for airlines)
2. Alot of cargo between the two cities, obviously oil related but also alot of agri cargo

I have heard the same thing, cant see Emirates into Vancouver for a long time. YYC kind of surprises me as well, it is a very small market, something will have to give. With BA and AC flying into European Hubs I wonder who will be the loser?
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:27 pm

Quoting Flynavy (Reply 36):
Interesting - surely there is tourist traffic between the Middle East and Central Florida. Saudi Arabian used to fly Riyadh-JFK-MCO until the early 2000's. At the rate the UAE is growing surely MIA and MCO have a chance. Can't wait! Smile

MIA is a given; MCO is a possibility. Though, again, it has nothing to do with tourist traffic, it has to do connecting people through Dubai's hub, which is on its way to becoming a "megahub" in the next ten years.
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:53 pm

Despite EK having a road show and stopping in certain places, and despite what senior managers say in public I would still be surprised if they started flying to YYC. How much business traffic could there possibly be on a daily basis to warrant such a long route? Oil traffic or not!
 
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:29 pm

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 30):
Quoting B747forever (Reply 27):
Hope we can see a Scandinavian city be operated by EK soon. Maybe CPH or even ARN/HEL.

But CPH is the candidate.

I doubt that ARN or HEL will come soon. Also CPH is in question.

QR are starting DOH-ARN-DOH on 27/11, Emirates are very welcome here too.
 
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:24 pm

Quoting Evolv (Reply 34):
Emirates was recently in Calgary for a roadshow which included Toronto but not Vancouver. One of the senior mangers from Emirates stated their intention to serve YYC once a new bilateral was worked. So i would disagree that YVR would be served first. A few points came out

Very interesting, maybe YYC ser

Quoting YVR1968 (Reply 43):
Despite EK having a road show and stopping in certain places, and despite what senior managers say in public I would still be surprised if they started flying to YYC. How much business traffic could there possibly be on a daily basis to warrant such a long route? Oil traffic or not!

Its possible that they may attract traffic from edmonton and vancouver plus the ever growing population of asians in calgary itself, plus there is a sizeable business traffic on the route as well, lawyers from my oil company are regularly going to dubai for business meetings.
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:24 am

Quoting Sukhoi (Reply 44):
QR are starting DOH-ARN-DOH on 27/11

They are advertising this a lot in Doha as well as in the Qatari Press.  Smile
 
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Sat Oct 06, 2007 7:08 am

Quoting Sukhoi (Reply 44):
QR are starting DOH-ARN-DOH on 27/11, Emirates are very welcome here too.

Now when QR starts service to ARN, can we see EK here if this route makes good????
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Sat Oct 06, 2007 7:21 am

Quoting B747forever (Reply 47):
Now when QR starts service to ARN, can we see EK here if this route makes good????

I think they will wait. They do not have that many aircrafts open for new routes and a daily A332 won't be justified. Maybe they will look at QR but I hardly doubt since they do not seem to copy each other. ( On routes I mean). I rather think we will see EK first at CPH.  Smile
 
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RE: EK New Dest For Year 2008

Sat Oct 06, 2007 7:25 am

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 48):
think they will wait. They do not have that many aircrafts open for new routes and a daily A332 won't be justified. Maybe they will look at QR but I hardly doubt since they do not seem to copy each other. ( On routes I mean). I rather think we will see EK first at CPH.

Okey, I see. But you never know what happens.
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