marcusair
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Low Flying 747

Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:47 pm

I am not completley up to snuff with airplanes and the distances that they are allowed to fly over a city but, I was in Burnaby, BC, Canada at the bottom of a Skytrain Station at Metrotown Mall and I was talking to a friend and all of a sudden a 747 came over a couple of tall buildings and it was so close that you could read the registration number the plane was operated by OASIS Hong Kong (which could also be clearly read ot the side of the 747) after it went over Metrotown mall it zig-zagged its way over towards surrey, after about 10 minutes you could see this plane landing on the normal flight path for YVR. What was even more odd is as it was flying over Metrotown another plane (an orange plane, which I think was a Conair Canadair firefighting plane) was heading south and flew just under the 747, I don't know what the didtance was between the 2 planes because I was on the ground but it looked pretty close, but my question is how close is a plane allowed to fly over a city?
 
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RE: Low Flying 747

Sat Oct 06, 2007 7:21 pm

How close is the city to the airport. A 747 is a large aircraft and appears closer and slower because of that. On the other hand it could be that Oasis Hong Kong has no idea where the hell they are going.
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RE: Low Flying 747

Sun Oct 07, 2007 12:17 am

This cannot be a coincidence. Take a look at this:

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The Oasis Hong Kong 744 pictured here was participating in the annual Eastbourne Airbourne sea front show in August. It was flown to the show from LGW which is less than 50 miles from Eastbourne during a stop over on a HKG-LGW-HKG rotation for promotional purposes.

So was there an air or any other kind of show that the aircraft at Burnaby could have been participating in?

By the way the photo above was taken from Beachy Head which is a famous British chalk headland on the south coast of England. Its height above sea level is 530 feet (162m). So the aircraft appears to have made a pass over the sea at the Airbourne show at a height of between 430 and 500 feet.
 
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RE: Low Flying 747

Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:05 am

The plane may have done a go round or aborted landing. If they abort a landing they don't climb as high as they necessarily may be on approach. At YYZ a go round may be at 2,000 to 3,000 feet. They join the approach pattern where ever a gap can be made for them and fly at that altitude until they reach the glide scope at the marker. They usually fly at that height here for noise abatement purposes. Planes zig zag to either bleed speed to slow down or more like to allow additional separation with the plane in front of them on the approach pattern, or both.
 
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RE: Low Flying 747

Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:06 am

Quoting Pnwtraveler (Reply 3):
At YYZ a go round may be at 2,000 to 3,000 feet.

Living in the Leaside Towers once, 37th. floor, I had a pretty unobstucted view to the North and West.
Once during a thunderstorm I could watch a BA 747 that came in from the West, turned South to fly by me low enough that I could see the individual windows.
There was also a Lufthansa 747 that regularily stayed fairly low on it's outbound climb-out, we used to joke about the pilot must have friends or family in the Pickering-area.

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RE: Low Flying 747

Sun Oct 07, 2007 12:20 pm

When you refer to low, I don't know how low but I can talk from my experience.

I once flow on JL 18 to YVR from NRT. We were very low by the time we hit Burnaby, about 2000 feet (I suspect). I could even see the Telus building near 41st and Kingways and could even read the Telus signs. Then we came near the Alex Fraser River and did a steep right turn over the Fraser River. I later found out that it was one of the normal proedures to reach a VOR point called Weet (later renamed to Totem). I think this approach path was referred to as the Shark 5 arrival. I think the normal approach path was called the Victoria 9 (something like this) arrival but aircrafts operated on this Shark 5 arrival once in a while. Other approaches that I have seen is coming in from White Rock (Surrey) flying over Boundary bay, and then making a steep left turn over totem.
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marcusair
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RE: Low Flying 747

Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:12 pm

Yes, You are right, I beleive that this is a common route, since I first seen the Oasis (now thats Ironic, seeing an oasis) But I have witnessed another Oasis, Japan Airlines, Air Canada and China Airlines following the exact same route, However this time there was no small aircraft flying under the belly of the planes.