hmmmm...
Posts: 1959
Joined: Tue May 18, 1999 8:32 am

4-engined 767

Mon Aug 21, 2000 10:24 am

Here's a four-engined Delta 767 I created. The first person to spot the giveaway will win the bagel next to me on my desk. I think it's stale. I don't want it anymore.

An optimist robs himself of the joy of being pleasantly surprised
 
Guest

RE: 4-engined 767

Mon Aug 21, 2000 10:43 am

Looks awesome dude, What photosuite did you use?

Dan The Man
 
CXA330-342
Posts: 393
Joined: Tue Feb 22, 2000 7:54 am

RE: 4-engined 767

Mon Aug 21, 2000 10:47 am

I think that the wing belongs to the 747-400, and even if I am right, you can keep the bagel.  
 
Trvlr
Posts: 4251
Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2000 9:58 am

RE: 4-engined 767

Mon Aug 21, 2000 10:56 am

It's not a 744 because their is only one landing light on the wing. Did you superimpose another DL wing onto the first one?

Aaron G.
 
TWA717_200
Posts: 1410
Joined: Tue Nov 23, 1999 3:51 am

RE: 4-engined 767

Mon Aug 21, 2000 11:15 am

It's the repetition of the painted stipes on the ground and only the back half of the baggage cart under the #4 engine.
 
N863DA
Posts: 1140
Joined: Sat Sep 04, 2004 6:36 am

RE: 4-engined 767

Mon Aug 21, 2000 11:16 am

What he did was copy the engine and paste it. The bird scarer on the cone of the engine is in exactly the same position on the two engines - a hint that they are the same engine. Excellent job!


FLY DELTA JETS and sail UNITED STATES LINES



N 8 6 3 D A
 
b767-400er
Posts: 384
Joined: Wed Apr 05, 2000 11:07 am

RE: 4-engined 767

Mon Aug 21, 2000 11:17 am

I'm pretty sure that you put the same wing on the tip of the existing one, did you. Why I say this: The outboard engine is off axis!


Tony,
B767-400er  
 
B-787
Posts: 245
Joined: Sun Jul 30, 2000 11:58 am

RE: 4-engined 767

Mon Aug 21, 2000 11:31 am

Don't you guys notice the different engine pylons.
722,732,73G,738,739,739ER,752,753,762,763,764,744,772,788,D10,M80,300,332,320
 
hmmmm...
Posts: 1959
Joined: Tue May 18, 1999 8:32 am

RE: 4-engined 767

Mon Aug 21, 2000 11:50 am

Okay, N863DA and TWA717_200 were correct. They each get half the bagel. You want butter on that?

It is a duplicated engine grafted on to the existing wing. The giveaway to me was the repetiton of the baggage cart. I should have edited that out. I didn't notice the repetition of the marking lines, nor the swirl position on the engine! I'll do better next time.

However, I did not copy and paste it. In fact, I don't have any sophisticated software at all, other than Corel photohouse that came with Corel WordPerfect Suite 8. Nothing like what N863DA has. It's a very basic photo editing software, but I was board and just fooling around.
But I'll keep my process secret!

Hmmmm...
An optimist robs himself of the joy of being pleasantly surprised
 
TWA717_200
Posts: 1410
Joined: Tue Nov 23, 1999 3:51 am

RE: 4-engined 767

Mon Aug 21, 2000 12:09 pm

I hope it's an onion bagel with cream cheese. I'm hungry.
 
hmmmm...
Posts: 1959
Joined: Tue May 18, 1999 8:32 am

4-engined 757

Mon Aug 21, 2000 12:27 pm

Here's another one I created. This one is nearly flawless. The first person to prove it's a fake gets a fresh bagel. With cream cheese. Allow 4-6 weeks for delivery.

I hope the link does not expire.

Hmmmm...

An optimist robs himself of the joy of being pleasantly surprised
 
b767-400er
Posts: 384
Joined: Wed Apr 05, 2000 11:07 am

RE: 4-engined 757

Mon Aug 21, 2000 12:41 pm

The Canada 3000 757's engines are way toooooo close together!!!


Tony,
B767-400er
 
User avatar
sammyk
Posts: 1560
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 1999 11:31 am

RE: 4-engined 767

Mon Aug 21, 2000 1:02 pm

The outboard engine seems to be canted a bit too to the left instead of straight like the inboard...also seems like the centerline for the nose gear (sorry, dont know the technical term) is duplicated behind the outboard engine.

Sammy
 
777boy
Posts: 284
Joined: Sun Jun 04, 2000 1:34 am

RE: 4-engined 767

Mon Aug 21, 2000 2:18 pm

Nice job on the 757, but I found its flaw: The red marking is partially duplicated and appears under the #3 engine in a sort of triangular shape.
 
Hamlet69
Posts: 2465
Joined: Thu Mar 09, 2000 2:45 am

RE: 4-engined 767

Mon Aug 21, 2000 2:33 pm

Great job Hmmmm...!

Your 767 is fabulous. For the 757, it is indeed almost perfect. However, I did spot one technical flaw:

There is no break in the spoiler above the outboard engine. You could never be able to extend the main spoiler completely, as it would hit the pylon.

Keep it up!

Hamlet69
Honor the warriors, not the war.
 
We're Nuts
Posts: 4723
Joined: Sun Jun 04, 2000 6:12 am

RE: 4-engined 757

Mon Aug 21, 2000 2:43 pm

Wonderful job Hmmm....!!! Can you do a 737?  
Dear moderators: No.
 
shankly
Posts: 1197
Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2000 10:42 pm

RE: 4-engined 767

Mon Aug 21, 2000 9:06 pm

Imagine the take-off and climb in that 757!!
L1011 - P F M
 
Guest

RE: 4-engined 767

Mon Aug 21, 2000 9:45 pm

have you got 777 engines on it?
 
hmmmm...
Posts: 1959
Joined: Tue May 18, 1999 8:32 am

RE: 4-engined 767

Tue Aug 22, 2000 10:42 am

Thanks everyone for your comments.

I did not notice the red hash marks on the tarmac as repeating. Points to 777Boy for that one. You came close but no cigar, ...er... no bagel.

Yes, B767-400, the engines are close together, but because this is a fantasy plane to begin with, then that wouldn't matter. It proves that the plane could be a gag, but not necessarily that the photo is a gag. It could be a real photo of a gag plane.

SammyK mentioned the angle of the fake engine. I believe the angle of the outboard engine has the same angle as the original engine because it is just a duplication of the original engine viewed from the same angle.

As far as Hamlet's comment about the spoilers, I think you meant slats, right? The flaps on the leading edge of the wing? But I'm not sure that the photo reveals much there. At least to my eye, I don't see the conflict. Maybe your eye is better.

When I posted it, I didn't know that it had a fatal flaw. I was waiting to see if anybody could come up with one.

But what I suppose gives away the photo is not in the plane itself. I believe it to be without a dead giveaway. The fatal flaw was in the editing of the tarmac with respect to the center line for the nose gear as SammyK pointed out. That, as you can see, has been duplicated in the same process that duplicated the inboard engine. It is there in between the inboard and outboard engines. I missed that. There would never be two center lines. Proving that it is the photo that is altered.

For your comparision I have posted the original shot here.

There are two alterations that I made, other than the additional engine, that differentiates the original shot from my trickery. What are they?


Hmmmm...
An optimist robs himself of the joy of being pleasantly surprised
 
User avatar
DL_Mech
Posts: 2070
Joined: Fri Feb 18, 2000 7:48 am

RE: 4-engined 767

Tue Aug 22, 2000 10:53 am

Man on the ramp and double jetway?
This plane is built to withstand anything... except a bad pilot.
 
Guest

RE: 4-engined 767

Tue Aug 22, 2000 11:00 am

the white van  

now for that, i wanna see a '47 tri-jet!
 
hmmmm...
Posts: 1959
Joined: Tue May 18, 1999 8:32 am

RE: 4-engined 767

Tue Aug 22, 2000 11:35 am

DLMech, you almost had it. You obviously work down on the tarmac. Nobody else would have noticed the double jetway. Yes, the jetway seems double. But why? Because the white van is gone! I needed background to fill it.

Airbpman, you got the van, that was the harder of the two to catch. But you missed the missing ramp rat that DLmech caught!

Okay, you both did good. There's no rest for the wicked. I'm working on another now.

Remember I'm working with very limited software. So all this has to be done by hand.

Hmmmm...

An optimist robs himself of the joy of being pleasantly surprised
 
Guest

RE: 4-engined 767

Tue Aug 22, 2000 11:47 am

How about putting those P&W or GE engines on a A34O-200/300?
 
c72
Posts: 745
Joined: Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:19 am

RE: 4-engined 767

Tue Aug 22, 2000 12:13 pm

is there a landing gear (right rear) missing? on that 757

Steve
 
hmmmm...
Posts: 1959
Joined: Tue May 18, 1999 8:32 am

RE: 4-engined 767

Tue Aug 22, 2000 12:19 pm

Here's a 6-engine Air Canada 747. I think the engine job is pretty good and no tarmac mistakes this time. I hope.






I've also made two alterations to the photo above that differentiates it from the original photo below.




This time the deal works like this: E-mail me your findings, do not post them. That way nobody else can get what they missed from you.

The first person to correctly catch the two alterations and e-mail me, will receive a year's supply of Hmmmm-approved banal and smartass comments, quips, and comebacks for use in debate and discussion on Airliners.net. A $49.95 value.

Hmmmm...
An optimist robs himself of the joy of being pleasantly surprised
 
hmmmm...
Posts: 1959
Joined: Tue May 18, 1999 8:32 am

RE: 4-engined 767

Tue Aug 22, 2000 12:28 pm

Thanks for your comments.

C72, it may look like the right gear boggy is missing, but it looks like that too in the original photo. It's hidden behind the original engine in this shot.

TEDSKI, do you mean as a gag or in real life? In real life, the A340 does have those big engines. But they call it the A330. As a photo gag, putting four big engines on the A340 could be done. But what's more absurd that four big RB.211 engines on a 757?

Hmmmm...
An optimist robs himself of the joy of being pleasantly surprised
 
Guest

RE: 4-engined 767

Tue Aug 22, 2000 1:12 pm

i e-mailed ya.
 
We're Nuts
Posts: 4723
Joined: Sun Jun 04, 2000 6:12 am

Ouch!

Tue Aug 22, 2000 1:20 pm

I found a mistake in your 747 picture. Pilot did a pretty bad parking job on that baby, right through the terminal!
Dear moderators: No.
 
hmmmm...
Posts: 1959
Joined: Tue May 18, 1999 8:32 am

RE: 4-engined 767

Tue Aug 22, 2000 1:36 pm

We're nutz, what do you mean about the parking job?

The position of the 747 is the same relative to its surroundings as in the original untouched photo.

Remember that the photo below is the original photo.

Hmmmm...
An optimist robs himself of the joy of being pleasantly surprised
 
turbulence
Posts: 876
Joined: Sun Nov 14, 1999 1:33 am

RE: 4-engined 767

Wed Aug 23, 2000 12:57 am

Hi all. I'm a little late here, but I'd like to add a comment on SammyK's observation and Hmmmmm...'s answer to it.
You are both right, folks. Why?

First, maybe the two engines have the same orientation, since the fake engine is a copy of the original one. Thus, not modified. But guys, the CLUE to it is in Hmmmmm...'s answer: they have THE SAME ANGLE!!!
In a real photo, the outer engine would never be seen in THE SAME ANGLE as the inner one, since the reference point (view point) is the same and the relative position is more to the left.
In a forced example, if the wing was long enough and the airplane was sitting at your right, adding more and more engines would lead you to reach to having one of them indefectively RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU. For sure you would NOT be able to see its frame, only the "hole". If you limited your job to just copy more and more engines, they would have a RELATIVE angle more and more turned towards each one closer to the fuselage.
I know it might be hard to imagine, but take the Air3000 757, make the wing longer, and keep on adding engines towards the outer end of the wing. Just the experiment, no need to "refine" images or clean objects on the tarmac. And post it, if you can.

For everything else, bravo! The "gags" look very well.

Best turbulences
 
Guest

RE: 4-engined 767

Wed Aug 23, 2000 2:20 am

Great job, those are great
 
hmmmm...
Posts: 1959
Joined: Tue May 18, 1999 8:32 am

RE: 4-engined 767

Wed Aug 23, 2000 10:57 am

Well, Airpbman won. He correctly found the two alterations in the faked photo. Nobody else has.

Anyone else care to guess? Or can I divulge the information?

Hmmmm...
An optimist robs himself of the joy of being pleasantly surprised
 
Qantas737
Posts: 714
Joined: Thu Jul 13, 2000 8:34 am

4-engined 737

Wed Aug 23, 2000 11:09 am

For the person who wanted a 4-engined 737 i have made one and sent the picture to Hmmmm.... I'm hoping he can put it up on the forum as I have little computer knowledge. For those of you who want to know it is a Boeing 737-200 of Air France. The original photo by Viktor Laszlo was a perfect photo for what I needed to use. It's my first go at rendering a photo  
 
hmmmm...
Posts: 1959
Joined: Tue May 18, 1999 8:32 am

RE: 4-engined 767

Wed Aug 23, 2000 9:09 pm

Thank you Qantas737, for your submission. You did an excellent job!

Unfortunately, it is in BMP format. It takes forever to load. It should be in JPG or GIF format. Does anyone know how he can convert it?


An optimist robs himself of the joy of being pleasantly surprised
 
User avatar
sammyk
Posts: 1560
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 1999 11:31 am

RE: 4-engined 767

Thu Aug 24, 2000 2:37 am

Hey, looks like a little 720!  

So, Hmmmm, are you going to tell us what the differences were between the two 747s?

Sammy
 
Delta777-XXX
Posts: 940
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2000 3:50 am

RE: 4-engined 767

Thu Aug 24, 2000 2:42 am

That is soo cool! These pictures are sooo neat! Somone email the owner and tell him to have a section especially for pictures like this. That Delta 767 up there was awesome. And the 732 looks better with four engines!  
 
Delta777-XXX
Posts: 940
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2000 3:50 am

RE: 4-engined 767

Thu Aug 24, 2000 3:50 am

hmmmm...

I have emailed you a Delta 777 with four engines if you wanna post it up here!     It's not great, but it's neat.
 
BadischerGreif
Posts: 100
Joined: Mon Jun 28, 1999 9:34 pm

RE: 4-engined 767

Thu Aug 24, 2000 5:33 am

Hi,
to convert the bmp:
open it with MSPaint and save it as JPG.
The most simple method, you get a better quality with Paint Shop Pro or similar graphic programs.

to all who made the Pics, you can upload them to this page:

http://www.crosswinds.net/~fakeairplane/

Badischer Greif
 
hmmmm...
Posts: 1959
Joined: Tue May 18, 1999 8:32 am

RE: 4-engined 767

Thu Aug 24, 2000 9:56 am

Okay here is that Delta 777 created by Delta777-XXX which he asked me to "URL-ize".

Also, thanks to Mr. Greif for the URL of the fake planes upload site. However, when I uploaded the image it did not give me a URL address. When I searched for the image, it did not show up in the registry.

However, once this has been corrected, all submissions should be uploaded to that site, as the site I am using is not for this nefarious purpose and they might soon catch on.  

Hmmmm...


An optimist robs himself of the joy of being pleasantly surprised
 
We're Nuts
Posts: 4723
Joined: Sun Jun 04, 2000 6:12 am

Hmmmm...

Thu Aug 24, 2000 2:04 pm

Sorry, I haven't been checking this thread.

Hmmmm..., I was talking about KLM 747 in the background, but I didn't want to give it away.
Dear moderators: No.
 
MEA-707
Posts: 3666
Joined: Mon Nov 15, 1999 4:51 am

RE: 4-engined 767

Thu Aug 24, 2000 4:59 pm

The link to the 4 engined 732 is broken ! *SOB* I'm very curious. Can anyone post it again or to my email-adress? Thanx!!
nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
 
Qantas737
Posts: 714
Joined: Thu Jul 13, 2000 8:34 am

RE: 4-engined 767

Thu Aug 24, 2000 6:09 pm

Sorry Hmmmm... I'm not real good with this stuff. I just made that picture with Corel Photopaint by cutting and pasting than zooming in by 600% to match the textures where I couldn't cut and paste. Yeah It does take a while to load. If any one does know how to convert it to JPG can they please tell me as I am ordering a new computer tomorrow (PIII 700Mhz, 128MB ram). If there is a program for this I would be much obliged if you could tell me.

Wow I'm still waiting for the 732 to load. I really gotta learn how to convert it   By the way Hmmmm... thanks for posting it up for me 

Oh yeah now that I think of it I also made a Phillipines A330-300 with four engines. Not very original I know (with the A340) but it still looks alright. I did a better job on that than what I did with the 732.
 
BadischerGreif
Posts: 100
Joined: Mon Jun 28, 1999 9:34 pm

RE: 4-engined 767

Thu Aug 24, 2000 9:25 pm

Hello,
the site I mentioned is not automated, its just an email gateway. So you have to wait until the page is updated.

Regards, Badischer Greif
 
hmmmm...
Posts: 1959
Joined: Tue May 18, 1999 8:32 am

RE: 4-engined 767

Thu Aug 24, 2000 9:39 pm

The link to the 737 is not broken. You will notice there is a blank space in that post. That is where the picture will load when it does. About 5 minutes from now. Broken links simply have a small box with a red X.

At the bottom of your browser software it will say "1 item remaining". That means there is still one photo to come.

Hmmmm...
An optimist robs himself of the joy of being pleasantly surprised