TWA1985
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Eastern Airlines FA Bid Sheets From Chicago (1985)

Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:04 pm

Hello to all,

I just received some very unique and interesting parts of aviation history...

Three Eastern Airlines Flight Attendant Bid Sheets for the Chicago base.
They are from April, May, and June of 1985!

There is some very interesting stuff here!

Please feel free to ask me anything you would like about them.

In-fact, that is the sole purpose of this post, so ask away!!!


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RE: Eastern Airlines FA Bid Sheets From Chicago (1985)

Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:19 pm

Any chance or way of scanning them to be posted?
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RE: Eastern Airlines FA Bid Sheets From Chicago (1985)

Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:48 pm

Cool! What are typical turn times between flights? I'm sure it's much longer than the 30-40 minutes I have these days. I remember spending lots of time sitting in Row 1 with my feet up on the wall eating my crew meal while the cleaners and caterers did their thing. Now the agents open the door and ask, "Last off, first on?" Thanks.
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RE: Eastern Airlines FA Bid Sheets From Chicago (1985)

Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:49 pm

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 1):
Any chance or way of scanning them to be posted?

Sorry, but I am at school and won't have access to a scanner for a while. But I will try to scan some images when I go home next week.

Any other questions?


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RE: Eastern Airlines FA Bid Sheets From Chicago (1985)

Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:01 pm

"What are typical turn times between flights?"

The quickest turn time I saw was about 1 hour, but most were anywhere from 90 minutes to about 3 hours!

The layovers were also quite long, for example....

The FA's would arrive CLT at 1:04 pm and did not have to fly back to ORD until 11:50 am the next day.

Also, time between continuing flights tended to be a little bit shorter, between 35 minutes to a little under 1 hour.

If you would like to know anything else, or more specific details then please let me know.


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RE: Eastern Airlines FA Bid Sheets From Chicago (1985)

Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:06 am

Quoting TWA1985 (Reply 3):
Any other questions?

How many hours were the lines built?

What aircraft are they for?

How many crew per line/aircraft?

What cities were available for layovers?

Were they long/short?

What was a long duty day?

What were city pairings for turns?

Any international?

[Edited 2007-10-08 17:07:06]
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RE: Eastern Airlines FA Bid Sheets From Chicago (1

Tue Oct 09, 2007 2:44 pm

Eastern used one of the first ever computer bid systems called ACM and PCM (attendant crew management and pilot crew management) using a VIPS (Voice Information Processing System) which was a dial in system. The sheets were either the product of this system or used by the employee to bid I would guess. Please scan them so we can see!!
 
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RE: Eastern Airlines FA Bid Sheets From Chicago (1985)

Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:14 pm

EWRCabinCrew:

How many hours were the lines built?

Anywhere from 7 hours (turns), to 65 hours (Generally three day trips).

What aircraft are they for?

DC-9-31, DC-9-51, Boeing 727-100, Boeing 727-200, and A-300.

How many crew per line/aircraft?

All A-300 flights required 6 FA’s.
The 727 flights generally required 3 to 4 FA’s.
The DC-9 flights required 2 to 3 FA’s.

What cities were available for layovers?

SJU, ATL, PVD, MCI, ORF, CLT, SRQ, GNV, BOS, DCA, RIC, MIA, CAE.

Were they long/short?

The shortest was 8 hours with the majority lasting around 20 to 23 hours.
There were a few that lasted 32 hours! (All in PVD though- kind of strange)
Most of the warm destinations such as SRQ, MIA, and SJU had the longer layovers.

What was a long duty day?

I am not sure exactly what you mean by this, but the longest day I see (Starting from Departure of the first flight and ending with the landing of the final flight of the day) was 12 hours, but most lasted between 7 and 9 hours.

What were city pairings for turns?

Turns included: ORD-IAH, ORD-ATL, ORD-MCI, ORD-CLT, & ORD-SRQ.

Any international?

Yes, there were a few international lines to Canadian cities such as YUL. There were also lines to SJU, NAS, and SDQ.
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RE: Eastern Airlines FA Bid Sheets From Chicago (1985)

Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:30 pm

Most cool with the info, TWA. Thank you. I love this stuff.
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RE: Eastern Airlines FA Bid Sheets From Chicago (1985)

Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:58 pm

Quoting TWA1985 (Reply 7):
65 hours (Generally three day trips).

65 HOURS for a 3-day trip?!?! How is that even possible?!
 
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RE: Eastern Airlines FA Bid Sheets From Chicago (1985)

Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:05 pm

Hello Everyone,

Here is the entire April, 1985 Bid Sheet. Enjoy!


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RE: Eastern Airlines FA Bid Sheets From Chicago (1985)

Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:41 pm

TWA...Most awesome!!! Thank you. 22-23 years later and they are still the same. Amazing how some things really don't change.

Very appreciative for you scanning them and showing us.

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RE: Eastern Airlines FA Bid Sheets From Chicago (1985)

Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:06 pm

Wow, blast from the past...from the year I was born no less (at the risk of sounding like a kid armchair CEO  Wink)

Very cool stuff...interesting to see this once-great airline and how she operated.

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RE: Eastern Airlines FA Bid Sheets From Chicago (1985)

Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:20 pm

You are all very welcome!

And "DeltaGuy," I too was born in 1985 and feel exactly the same way you do!

I would scan in the other two Bid Sheets, but they are almost identicle, with the exception of new ORD-IAH and ORD-LAX turns.

Also, in June, the new Automated Bid Awards System goes into effect for July- though the exact details are not given on the sheet I have.

Can anyone emlighten us on this? Just how automated was it? Anything like today?

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RE: Eastern Airlines FA Bid Sheets From Chicago (1985)

Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:23 am

I can't see anything.

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Quoting WeAreUnited (Reply 9):
Quoting TWA1985 (Reply 7):
65 hours (Generally three day trips).

I'm still very curious about this if anyone can read the sheets....
 
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RE: Eastern Airlines FA Bid Sheets From Chicago (1985)

Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:16 pm

They images are back up! I guess the site I used to upload these cannot exceed a certain bandwith.

Enjoy!


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RE: Eastern Airlines FA Bid Sheets From Chicago (1985)

Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:09 pm

Sorry Everyone, if the images are not available, just check back later and the bandwith will be reset.

In the meantime, here are a few of the pages that you should be able to see without waiting for the bandwith.

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