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Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:07 pm

There is a leak from Emirates that EK will announce an order of 100 A350 and 20 747-8 Intercontinental.
Announcement will be at the very first day of the Dubai Air Show, as everybody was expecting.
I am trying to get more detailed information but as far as this rumor came out the order will be
50 A350 Firm and 50 commitments.
10 747-800i will be also accompanied by 10 Commitment.

If this is true, and I am working to verify it, it will be a good news for both manufacturers.
As soon I get more information I will post it.

I am also trying to get a confirmation from Venezuela about an announcement that Conviasa will make at Dubai of 15 A330 and 15 A320. This one will be easy to confirm but it will take me a while.

I have to admit that I did not see this one coming.

[Edited 2007-10-10 08:08:01]

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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:11 pm

If true, a very nice shot in the arm for the A350, and a much needed 2nd carrier order for the 747-8I.
 
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:13 pm

If true...it is hardly surprising. If there were a surprise about it, it'd be that they are only ordering 10 firm 748is. 50 A350s is not out-of-the-ordinary as far as their orders go.
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:14 pm

Good news if true! Gives both programs a nice boost. Do you know wether the 748is are Freighters or not? There has been a lot of speculation about EK ordering the 748i for their cargo division.

Quoting Carls (Thread starter):

I am also trying to get a confirmation from Venezuela about an announcement that Conviasa will make at Dubai of 15 A330 and 15 A320.

This one was in the rumours mill for quite some time and COnviasa has also been asking different companies for maintenance contracts (SRTechnics being on eof them). I heard that some of these 330s will go to IR eventually.

edit: Oh and let's not get into the childish, stupid, usual "they got two A350s for the price of one" crap, thank you!

[Edited 2007-10-10 08:15:31]
 
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:16 pm

It will be a huge order for both of the carriers. But especially for Airbus.

If this is true, then how big EKs fleet going to be??? Really huge.
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:22 pm

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 3):
Do you know wether the 748is are Freighters or not? There has been a lot of speculation about EK ordering the 748i for their cargo division.

The fact that it says 748i's implies that it will in deed be for the passenger version, as only the passenger version is referred to as the Intercontinental.
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:22 pm

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 3):
Do you know wether the 748is are Freighters or not?

Sorry but no. I just got it like this: Boeing will get 10 and 10 747-8i. So I assumed that they were passengers because otherwise the information would be 20 Cargo 747-8 and not 747-8i . It's only my guess.
 
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:23 pm

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 3):
Do you know wether the 748is are Freighters or not? There has been a lot of speculation about EK ordering the 748i for their cargo division.

...it would be the B748F if they were freighters... Wink

EK already have the freighter version on order...

Given that Boeing still hasn't come out with specs about the B787-10 I can understand EK going with the A350
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:27 pm

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 3):
Good news if true! Gives both programs a nice boost. Do you know wether the 748is are Freighters or not? There has been a lot of speculation about EK ordering the 748i for their cargo division.

According to Boeing's orders site, Emirates already has 10 747-8Fs on order
 
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:30 pm

Quoting NRA-3B (Reply 8):
Emirates already has 10 747-8Fs on order

that is true. So then this time the order is for the passenger version.
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:30 pm

Quoting Carls (Thread starter):
There is a leak from Emirates that EK will announce an order of 100 A350 and 10 747-8 Intercontinental.

Wow, Scott Carson said just soon after the BA announcement that he doesn't expect any 748I orders this year. That's quite a turnaround. I am disappointed that EK didn't order the 787 though, it would have been a great addition to their fleet.

I do think that 748I won't be the only Boeing that EK orders at the air show next month. I do think they'll be in for more 777s including 777Fs.

[Edited 2007-10-10 08:34:01]
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:34 pm

Quoting Carls (Thread starter):
am also trying to get a confirmation from Venezuela about an announcement that Conviasa will make at Dubai of 15 A330 and 15 A320. This one will be easy to confirm but it will take me a while.

Really???? i can imagine their new destinations: Managua, Quito, Guayaquil, La Paz, Santa Cruz, Havana, Sao Paulo, Buenos Aires, Montevideo and who knows, maybe Almaty or Baku.

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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:43 pm

Quoting T773ER (Reply 5):

The fact that it says 748i's implies that it will in deed be for the passenger version, as only the passenger version is referred to as the Intercontinental.



Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 7):
...it would be the B748F if they were freighters

lol, relax! Big grin I just wanted to clarify. Seeing as it isn't an official press release or article i thought i'd ask.

Quoting NRA-3B (Reply 8):
According to Boeing's orders site, Emirates already has 10 747-8Fs on order

That i wasn't aware of.
 
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:45 pm

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 3):
There has been a lot of speculation about EK ordering the 748i for their cargo division.

Could it be a confusion and actually those rumors refer to the 747-8F of which they already got a bunch. Could they be ordering more for Emirates Cargo?

If the A350 order is also true, it will boost Airbus' numbers nicely and will help set a more solid business base that could influence favorably the yet to come orders of other airlines. It, pretty much, is the same for the 747-8i which, if chosen could see more passenger orders in the coming years for airlines that want a solution today, to the space between the 773 (and maybe A3510) and the A380.

Quoting B747forever (Reply 4):
If this is true, then how big EKs fleet going to be??? Really huge.

We would have to review some documents to give any numbers, but it seems that EK's fleet will grow to a size we never imagined as, they, wanting to become not the largest in the region but in the world. Perhaps someone with the numbers in the top of his head could gives us a glimpse to a foreseeable EK fleet size.
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:46 pm

.... you left out Dili, Nadi, Apia, Antanarivo, EK really need to boost their presence there.  Wink
 
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:48 pm

Do EK really need this amount of aircraft? My mistake, i thought thay had more aircraft than they did. So this should take fleet numbers into the 300 range?

(Edit: thought EK fleet numbers were a LOT bigger!)


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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:52 pm

My question is this...and it's a valid one...

Where the hell are they going to put all of these wide bodies that they have ordered over the last couple of years?

I get the feeling that in 10-20 years from now we'll see a lot of A and B widebodies available in the used market....
 
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:55 pm

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 16):
Where the hell are they going to put all of these wide bodies that they have ordered over the last couple of years?

I thought EK was planning to have an aircraft leasing subsidiary.
 
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:57 pm

Quoting Carls (Thread starter):
I have to admit that I did not see this one coming.

This would be the outcome I was hoping for. The A350 needs some orders to pick up against the 787 and the 747-8I was also in desperate need for a second customer. I think aviation fans can be happy, BA ordered A380s and 787s and EK will eventually order the A350 and 747-8I. Very good indeed if true !!!
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:06 pm

I have no clue what they are going to do with all these aircraft. Maybe the production time frame is quite spread out. I wonder who they are planning on putting out of business.
 
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:06 pm

50 + 50 A350 tracks with my belief that EK might want to "hedge their bets" about a possible 787HGW while giving them a guaranteed "near-term" replacement for their 77A, 77E, and 773 fleets.

As such, the A350-900 will likely be the majority - if not totality - of the order, with A350-1000 slots likely being held. They still have 77Ws rolling out of the factory, so the need to add A350-1000s is likely not pressing for them.

If the 787HGW or Y3 launches, they can compare it with the A350-900R and A350-1000 and decide which way to go.

As to the 747-8Is, that's just shocking (to me). Pleasant, but shocking.

[Edited 2007-10-10 09:07:24]
 
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:33 pm

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 16):
Where the hell are they going to put all of these wide bodies that they have ordered over the last couple of years?

Fill up the new Jebel Ali World Airport and it's six runways..

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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:36 pm

The A350 order will certainly be a boost to the programme; with EK, it will now have quite a decent select of reputable, respectable airlines - SQ, AY, TP, EI, QR, US, JJ and now, EK - with others to come. Also, with a good few widebody orders still to come over the next few months (LH, CX, TG, to name but a few), the 350 could hoover up a few more, particularly since Boeing is now facing delays with the 787 and, as referred to above, they haven't come forward with specs for the 787-10.
 
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:45 pm

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 21):

Fill up the new Jebel Ali World Airport and it's six runways..

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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:49 pm

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 21):
Fill up the new Jebel Ali World Airport and it's six runways..

 crazy  That is insane!
 
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:56 pm

That's funny. UAE is smaller the state of Maine and has only 4.4 million people. ( less than Denmark )

Imagine if Denmark ordered 100 A350s. Crazy.

But good job by Airbus to get another 100 orders. Now GE should get onboard and make Airbus a GEnx option for the A350. They stand to lose alot of money ceding the whole A350 market to RR.
 
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:10 pm

so it seems that the A 358s will replace the entire A 332 fleet and the A 359s will replace the B 772A fleet (non ERs).

Eventually in the future, as more A 359s are firmed up from the options, they will replace the B 772ERs as well.
 
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:51 pm

Quoting BigTom (Reply 14):
... you left out Dili, Nadi, Apia, Antanarivo, EK really need to boost their presence there. Wink

good one  bigthumbsup 
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:55 pm

Good news for both programs. Anyone care to hazard a guess as to the proportion of A350 sales to the the Middle East versus the rest of the world?
 
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:56 pm

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 3):
There has been a lot of speculation about EK ordering the 748i for their cargo division.

The 747-8I is by definition a PAX aircraft. The 747-8F is the freighter, and AFAIK EK has ordered 747-8Fs for SkyCargo.

It would be great to see another airline finally order a 747-8I, to join LH and Boeing in the 747-8I Programme.
 
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:07 pm

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 30):

The 747-8I is by definition a PAX aircraft. The 747-8F is the freighter, and AFAIK EK has ordered 747-8Fs for SkyCargo.

O Rly?

I merely thought because the OP apparently hear dthe rumour from somewhere, he received th einformation that Ek will order 747-8 and assume dit would be the i. I just asked to clarify.

Case closed, thank you.
 
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:15 pm

Breakdown of the A350:

30 A350-800 to replace A330
10 A350-900 to replace A340 / 777-200
10 A350-1000 to replace ?????

About 747-8 isn't the Intercontinental he was talking about the order they already have with Boeing, he is not sure about what is going on with the 748, he couldn't get enough information to get clear if they are going to order more or they are executing a commitment. But for sure the Intercontinental was a misunderstood from my side.

About Conviasa:

Some of this A330 are going to Iran Air. But the A320 family will be based in Caracas.
To Conviasa are going: 3 A330-200 and 5 A330-300 Engines are P&W. Conviasa is supposed to announce it at Dubai.
There was a short article at El Universal news paper in Caracas few weeks ago about it.
 
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:16 pm

Quoting Carls (Reply 32):
But for sure the Intercontinental was a misunderstood from my side.

And that was exactly the reason why i asked, thank you. No reason to jump on me.
 
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:25 pm

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 33):

SandroZRH, It was my mistake, you asked and that make me wonder, I also asked and then I realise I made an assumption. So there is no announcement about 787-8 Intercontinental.
I am sorry but I could not get more info about it but they will announce something about the 787-800, what will be I just don't know and my contact neither.
 
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:27 pm

Quoting Carls (Reply 32):
30 A350-800 to replace A33010 A350-900 to replace A340 / 777-20010 A350-1000 to replace ?????

Pretty surprising that this order is biased so heavily towards the smaller aircraft. Perhaps EK has decided their expansion plans are unrealistic.
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:28 pm

Quoting Carls (Reply 34):

SandroZRH, It was my mistake, you asked and that make me wonder, I also asked and then I realise I made an assumption. So there is no announcement about 787-8 Intercontinental.
I am sorry but I could not get more info about it but they will announce something about the 787-800, what will be I just don't know and my contact neither.

No problem, that was why i asked because I thought that had happened, but other members decided to jump on me  Smile

oh and i think you meant the 747-8  Wink
 
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:29 pm

Clark said they ordered 55 A388s and that was the maximum number the airport infrastructure can handle. Given both A388s and B748s are Code F aircraft requiring the same size stands, where are they going to dock the additional aircraft?

Also with 6 runways and hundreds of stands, I have always wondered why Jebel Ali will only be able to accommodate 55 A388s. Or was Clark referring to the existing DXB?

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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:34 pm

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 36):
oh and i think you meant the 747-8

Uups!! yes 747-8
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:42 pm

Quoting Columba (Reply 18):
This would be the outcome I was hoping for. The A350 needs some orders to pick up against the 787 and the 747-8I was also in desperate need for a second customer. I think aviation fans can be happy, BA ordered A380s and 787s and EK will eventually order the A350 and 747-8I.

Very well put, sir!

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Fill up the new Jebel Ali World Airport and it's six runways..

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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:54 pm

Quoting Carls (Thread starter):

I have to admit that I did not see this one coming.

which part? If it's the 787 you're talking about-- that should've been obvious, as had EK truly intended to order them, they could've done so several years prior: size/model decision at that point, notwithstanding.
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:55 pm

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 40):
If it's the 787 you're talking about

There's no talk of the 787 whatsoever. Carls made a mistake in his previous post by mistakenly typing 787 instead of 747.
 
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:04 pm

Maybe as part of the incentive, Airbus brought forward the first A380 for EK to be delivered in April or May - if they go with A350.
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:25 pm

Quoting Carls (Reply 32):
About Conviasa:

Some of this A330 are going to Iran Air. But the A320 family will be based in Caracas.
To Conviasa are going: 3 A330-200 and 5 A330-300 Engines are P&W. Conviasa is supposed to announce it at Dubai.
There was a short article at El Universal news paper in Caracas few weeks ago about it.

Somehow I can't see that happening, particularly in the current political environment; the French govt, let alone the Americans, wouldn't allow A330s to be flown by IR, no matter what the arrangement. It's a pity for IR, because I have sympathy with their predicament, but unfortunately it's a political issue.

Quoting Atmx2000 (Reply 35):
Pretty surprising that this order is biased so heavily towards the smaller aircraft. Perhaps EK has decided their expansion plans are unrealistic.

It is surprising, because I had thought - given TC's comments over the past few months - that EK felt that the aircraft available were too small. I had thought that a key factor in not going for the 787 was the non-availability of the -10 model. That said, don't forget that EK will have options, so it can add more of different types in due course.
 
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:33 pm

Quoting Carls (Reply 32):
going to order more or they are executing a commitment

That is still considered an order.

But Boeing said they don't expect any more 747-8i sales this year, so either it's a ruse, or they are for 747-8F models?
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:36 pm

Quoting Carls (Reply 38):
I just created a whole new plane: the 787-8 Intercontinental.

Maybe that's the name the 787-8LR could take once QF orders it for nonstop SYD-LHR flights.  Wink
 
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:13 pm

Quoting Carls (Reply 32):
30 A350-800 to replace A330
10 A350-900 to replace A340 / 777-200
10 A350-1000 to replace ?????

An A350 order by EK would not surprise me in the least as I've noted before I believe it was cinched the day Dubai bought their investment in EADS. Ordering 30 A358s would surprise me; I would venture that the order would be predominantly -900s & 1000s. These would seem to be the most appropriate members of the family to replace the early 777s and support growth.

The 748I order would be a surprise and some good news for Boeing at what will likely be an Airbus order fest.
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:27 pm

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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:34 pm

Considering how much EK was carping about the 787 being too small, to place the majority of their order for the model closest to the 787 in size strikes me as...unlikely...

I don't think EK will commit heavily to the A350-1000 at first (though I expect they will cover themselves with options), as they have plenty of 777-300ERs coming (every other plane on the line seems to be an EK bird) and, evidently, they are taking ten 748-8Is.

So I'd say it would be 35-40 A350-900s and 10-15 A350-800s.
 
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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:25 pm

Quoting Carls (Thread starter):
50 A350 Firm and 50 commitments.
10 747-800i will be also accompanied by 10 Commitment.

If this turns out to be true, this order speaks volumes about the 748 and in my mind is a much more important order than the 350 (from a program standpoint.)

Its similar to the BA order, where the 380 order basically saved the 380 and the 787 order was a minor footnote.

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RE: Emirates To Announce 100 A350 And 20 747-8

Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:34 pm

Quoting Carls (Reply 32):
About Conviasa:

Some of this A330 are going to Iran Air. But the A320 family will be based in Caracas.
To Conviasa are going: 3 A330-200 and 5 A330-300 Engines are P&W. Conviasa is supposed to announce it at Dubai.
There was a short article at El Universal news paper in Caracas few weeks ago about it.

That's so unexpected I have a hard time believing it, honestly. I don't mean to doubt what you say or sound disrespectful but "seeing is believing".
Any idea when the airshow starts?.