atrude777
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Mesa/Air Midwest To End Chicago Flights From MWA

Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:26 pm

http://southernillinoisan.com/articl...ning/doc471794b724b5b975105128.txt

MARION -- Mesa Airlines will discontinue flights to Chicago’s Midway Airport out of Williamson County Regional Airport beginning Nov. 10, according to airport manager Doug Kimmel.

Kimmel said the airline is withdrawing because it is not getting enough passengers or revenue. He called it an “unfortunate situation” and that the “money just couldn’t last any longer.” Mesa came to Williamson County Airport in February as a result of the I-Fly fund which provided around $100,000 each to the airports in Marion, Quincy and Decatur.


Not that we actually HAD n/s to Chicago...It was a through flight to DEC.

Oh well. I still stand by a major airline can make MWA-ORD work via connections, either Eagle MWA-ORD, or TSA thru United Express.

If they claim 350 paxs per month flew MWA-DEC-MDW, thats on average 11 passengers a day, for a 19 seater My guess is it is not break even or a profit.

So that alone I would like to think could support a 50 seater daily MWA-ORD, and the fact people would have opportunity to connect onward out of ORD, I would HAVE to think wouold raise the demand.

Otherwise, I have to be totally wrong for it.

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RE: Mesa/Air Midwest To End Chicago Flights From MWA

Thu Oct 18, 2007 6:34 pm

For the record, I think this service would of been a lot better if it could have been flown under the USAir express name. Then connections would have been avavible to TZ and FL.
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RE: Mesa/Air Midwest To End Chicago Flights From MWA

Thu Oct 18, 2007 6:39 pm

What a shame, yet another airline leaves Marion... I worked for TWE in MWA for 4 years while going to SIU, and feel bad for the great employees there. Number one market for us was ORD/MDW, followed by LGA/JFK/EWR, all connections thru STL and TWA of course. We sure had our "regulars", the business people who flew every single week, week after week... after week! There were also tons of connections to STL and JFK then onto Europe and CAI/TLV/RUH with SIU being so close. During any SIU breaks our back room looked like a luggage warehouse with all the bags trying to go out, at times we had them trucked back and forth from STL.

I think in that four years I sold exactly 1 MWA-STL ticket, as Trans States kept the fare at over $250 one way back then if you weren't connecting on to TWA! Sure was a great time, I still laugh when I think of some of the funny stuff that went down over the years.

Those J31s went out with decent loads though, 4 times a day during the week, and it can be done. Any service really needs to connect into a large hub, with a real codeshare and not stand alone. I hope someone can come in and realize there really IS a market there, if done properly and not on a shoestring.

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RE: Mesa/Air Midwest To End Chicago Flights From MWA

Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:22 pm

This was bound to doom under the Mesa name. What these cities need is AA* service to STL on a small airline flying 19 seaters. I am actualyl surprised they got 11 pax/departurre..that's actually not too bad. How many flights per day where there? 1 or 2?
 
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RE: Mesa/Air Midwest To End Chicago Flights From MWA

Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:27 pm

Well what a shame this is.......

Do this too many times to a community and the community will never support any air service again...no matter how well connected it is to a major. People that think they can drive to save 5 bucks will pay 30 bucks in gas to do it....
Mesa's biggest mistake was not seeking entry into ORD....I am sorry but there should be a provision made for landing slots at airports like ORD that are made available for smaller communities.....Yes peole yell at me some more about how bigger cities need the slots more.....Yes they probably do but the some of the bigger cities that are being served with 7-10 Regional jets per day dont need all those flights. If you argue that they are always full or oversold is because the planes are not big neuff in the first place....dare I stick my neck out again and say reduce the amount of flights wwith l;arger aircraft so more slots are made available to ALL cities desiring service into a ub airport like ORD....not just the privilaged few...

I hope that whomever re-enters the Marion and Decatur markets does it right and developes these cities and makes them work rather than simply ploppimg some flights in there just to see if they work then cut and run when the pickins' get slim....

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RE: Mesa/Air Midwest To End Chicago Flights From MWA

Thu Oct 18, 2007 10:37 pm

I wonder if Gulfstream Intl will add MWA-CLE to its bids from Cleveland (operating for Continental)? I know they've put a bid in for Lancaster, PA (LNS) and have heard they will (if they havent already) bid on Hagerstown, MD (HGR).

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RE: Mesa/Air Midwest To End Chicago Flights From MWA

Fri Oct 19, 2007 1:01 am

Quoting ATCT (Reply 5):
I know they've put a bid in for Lancaster, PA (LNS) and have heard they will (if they havent already) bid on Hagerstown, MD (HGR).

Really where is this listed?
 
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RE: Mesa/Air Midwest To End Chicago Flights From MWA

Fri Oct 19, 2007 1:06 am

Quoting Atrude777 (Thread starter):
Mesa came to Williamson County Airport in February as a result of the I-Fly fund which provided around $100,000 each to the airports in Marion, Quincy and Decatur.

Mesa burned through alot of the money in just starting up the operation. Jeff Hartz really did his research on these routes before he gave Mesa the "OK" to persue it. this was a losing cause before it even started and anybody who thought it would stay past the 18 months it was in operation was crazy. Once the cash is gone Mesa will either end the service or try to get out of the contract. Hopefully an airline that can actually run a decent operation will fill these routes and give people a better choice

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