N612UA
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Question About NW 747 & 330 Routes

Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:56 pm

This is a simple question I have looked around and have not found anything so I thought I would ask. Does NW fly any regular 747 or 330 flights on domestic routes?

Thanks mike
 
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RE: Question About NW 747 & 330 Routes

Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:39 pm

For the A330: Just MSP-HNL (and vice-versa). This summer, however, MSP-SEA (and vice-versa) was often upgraded to an A330 for scheduling reasons. Also, the last regularly-scheduled B742 flight was SEA-MSP - basically this would have otherwise run as a ferry flight so NW got smart (Flew Smart?  Wink ) and decided to put passengers on it.

Also, this summer MSP-DTW got a B744 sometimes. However, they do not regularly run the 747 on any domestic routes, and MSP-HNL is the only permanently widebody domestic route at NW.

The two primary reasons for this are that their hubs are in the middle of the country, and because they have the 757-300 instead. The 757-300 capacity is similar to that of a 767-200, but it is longer and narrower. For the most part 757-300s replaced many routes that were operated by DC-10s back in 2000. Lots of domestic routes used to be on DC-10s (particularly DC-10-40s). Seattle, SFO, LAX, PHX (in the winter months), etc.
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rwsea
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RE: Question About NW 747 & 330 Routes

Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:45 pm

Quoting AlexPorter (Reply 1):
For the A330: Just MSP-HNL (and vice-versa). This summer, however, MSP-SEA (and vice-versa) was often upgraded to an A330 for scheduling reasons. Also, the last regularly-scheduled B742 flight was SEA-MSP - basically this would have otherwise run as a ferry flight so NW got smart (Flew Smart? ) and decided to put passengers on it.

Also, between now and April, NW is running an A333 on SEA-HNL for one of the daily flights (the other remains a 753). So that makes two daily A333 domestic flights: MSP/SEA-HNL.

As mentioned, the A330 subs in on SEA-MSP from time to time, including a short stint this summer where it was regularly scheduled.
 
N612UA
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RE: Question About NW 747 & 330 Routes

Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:11 pm

Ok thanks guys for the info.

Mike
 
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RE: Question About NW 747 & 330 Routes

Sat Oct 20, 2007 3:58 am

The other psoters are correct; only thing I would add is that during the pilot staffing woes earlier in the summer, a lot of routes to the west coast (PDX, SEA, SFO, LAX) saw A330's subbed in for 757's. Not regularly scheduled, of course, but still flown....

Of course if we include cargo, we can add 74F's from ORD, LAX and ILN to ANC.  Smile
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RE: Question About NW 747 & 330 Routes

Sat Oct 20, 2007 4:05 am

Quoting RwSEA (Reply 2):
As mentioned, the A330 subs in on SEA-MSP from time to time, including a short stint this summer where it was regularly scheduled.

I believe this route was due to some of the labor issues NW had over the summer with the pilots.
 
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RE: Question About NW 747 & 330 Routes

Sat Oct 20, 2007 4:41 am

MSP-SEA was scheduled for 4-6 weeks this past summer with one flight being an A330-300 due the narrowbody pilot scheduling / labor issues. It was not originally scheduled to be this, but they re-wrote the July & August schedules in mid-June.

Outside of that, while not scheduled as such, MSP-SEA is the most likely route to see an unscheduled A330 in order to reposition/ ferry aircraft in/out of the Pacific to HNL or NRT. Same thing would happen if the 753 fleet was over-utilized due to IROPs, maintenance, etc.

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