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Rumor: Germanwings To Fly Long-haul With A340-300s

Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:45 am

According to a rumor on a German aviation forum, Germanwings is planning to start long-haul flights from CGN with two used A340-300 aircraft (ex-Virgin Atlantic) in all-Economy configuration. Kuala Lumpur is mentioned as first destination - allegedly an attempt to prevent Air Asia X from entering the market.

Link:
http://www.airliners.de/forum/viewto...d=a775366abd633dde36a17b9810391b09

The topic is intensively discussed on that forum, most members express serious doubts...however, 4U starting long-haul flights is a most interesting idea.


PH

[Edited 2007-10-21 04:00:29]
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RE: Rumor: Germanwings To Fly Long-haul With A340-300s

Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:52 am

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Kuala Lumpur is mentioned as first destination - allegedly an attempt to prevent Air Asia X from entering the market.

I wonder about the prospects of that market. BKK would make perfectly sense, thinking of the whole backbacker crowd headed from Europe to Bangkok, but KUL?
 
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RE: Rumor: Germanwings To Fly Long-haul With A340-300s

Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:07 am

Interesting to see them expand like that. CGN is their biggest hub, so it would make some sense. However, SXF is closer to KUL.
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RE: Rumor: Germanwings To Fly Long-haul With A340-300s

Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:24 am

IF true (which is very doubtful) I would also see this as an attempt against AB/LT which will start longhaul flights from DUS. LH has no longer DE for cheap longhaul flights so 4U is the only choice for this, enough A340 pilots are there that could be transfered to 4U and LHT can take care of maintenance. It is possible but still I have my doubts.
Nevertheless a 4U A340 would be a good looking aircraft - at least from the outside  Smile
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RE: Rumor: Germanwings To Fly Long-haul With A340-300s

Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:35 pm

Quoting Columba (Reply 3):
IF true (which is very doubtful) I would also see this as an attempt against AB/LT which will start longhaul flights from DUS.

So, where is their answer to AB/LT starting long-haul flights from TXL?
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RE: Rumor: Germanwings To Fly Long-haul With A340-300s

Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:44 pm

Quoting Thorben (Reply 4):
So, where is their answer to AB/LT starting long-haul flights from TXL?

Wait for the A346 stationed in SXF  Smile  Smile  Smile
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RE: Rumor: Germanwings To Fly Long-haul With A340-300s

Sun Oct 21, 2007 3:17 pm

As much as it sounds a bit like an April Fools joke to me, it would make some sense to me if we look at the strategy of Lufthansa so far: Focus on their hubs FRA, ZRH (via Swiss) and MUC plus to some extent DUS for high-yield premium traffic and concentrate lowcost traffic elsewhere via their subsidiary Germanwings. The fact that they are basing three A340s in DUS next spring is clearly addressing competition from US carriers now flying direct to smaller airports in Europe from their hubs and to Air Berlin / LTU who already have a number of direct longhaul flights, in particular out of DUS. The idea to let Germanwings operate a number of A340s on touristic lower-yield routes would rather take a piece of the cake away from Emirates / Etihad and other Middle East carriers offering cheap deals to Southeast Asia than from Lufthansa´s own customer base. Plus it would be a clear signal to Air Asia X, Oasis etc. who might at some point open flights to Germany: "hey guys, we are watching you and ready to react or even act before you get flights started". Lufthansa has the expertise to operate longhaul flights and could easily transfer a couple of crews to Germanwings to get things started quickly.
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RE: Rumor: Germanwings To Fly Long-haul With A340-300s

Sun Oct 21, 2007 3:21 pm

I think that if everything is true, I can consider to fly that airline somewhere, if fares are ok.
 
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RE: Rumor: Germanwings To Fly Long-haul With A340-300s

Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:41 pm

This is nothing but nonsense just like the other thread on about the Dubai-Szczecin route by Emirates. There was a huge airliners.de community meet in HAM yesterday and some of the guys there used my and other users' logins to spread these two rumours that were some sort of running gags during the long and interesting evening. So simply forget about it ... I am very sorry for any confusion caused by this.
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RE: Rumor: Germanwings To Fly Long-haul With A340-300s

Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:48 pm

Quoting Thomas_Jaeger (Reply 8):
This is nothing but nonsense just like the other thread on about the Dubai-Szczecin route by Emirates.

While Dubai-Szczecin indeed sounds like a joke, a new German LCC long-haul venture would still make sense, as some users have pointed out. Probably we will see it happen within the next years.


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RE: Rumor: Germanwings To Fly Long-haul With A340-300s

Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:04 pm

Is Germanwings ready to take on the long haul market? my thoughts to this is i very much doubt it.

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