smolt
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Incident KIX; Air Canada Forced JAL To Go Around

Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:02 pm

Reportedly, at 18:10 on 20 in Kansai Airport (KIX), Air Canada 36 (767-300) illegally taxied into the runway and forced JAL 2576 (767-300) to go around, which was approaching Runway 24L. The Air Canada had ignored tower's instruction to hold short of the runway; At first JAL's crew saw Air Canada taxiing into runway to intercept, asked the tower if they should continue approach, then the tower found the Air Canada on runway and immediately instruct the JAL to go around.
Air Canada had just responded "Position 24 left" as read back for the tower's instruction of "Hold short of runway 24L"
The Japanese official sent two men to investigate this incident.

Three things I want to comment to this news;
1. With all what the media reports, I guess that there was missed communication, not ignoring, between the Air Canada and Tower; that Air Canada mistook "hold short of runway" for "taxi into position and hold"
2. This is no minor incident and should not happen, but in reality the same thing occasionally happens. I have witnessed many years ago Air China went so much as to start take off running in spite that he was just cleared to hold short of runway. Tower cried "Stop! Stop! Stop!" then the China Air rejected take off. At this, the United 747 on approach was made to go around.
3. Medias tend to take incident the more serious when incidents continuously occurs. They report the same kind of incident, sometimes sensationally as if it were very major incident short to a great miserable, but sometimes as if it were very minor, having nothing to do with safety. I recently found in this forum that this is also true and common to other than Japan.

Any of your comments?
 
cf105arrow
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RE: Incident KIX; Air Canada Forced JAL To Go Around

Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:26 pm

Hello Smolt,

I am new so i don't know how to include the link but you may want to read:

Runway Incursion At KIX Oct. 20th Involving AC.
Runway Incursion At KIX Oct. 20th Involving AC (by CinJA Oct 21 2007 in Civil Aviation)

Regards
 
ACFA
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RE: Incident KIX; Air Canada Forced JAL To Go Around

Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:30 pm

Air China and China Air[lines] are two different companies from different countries. Perhaps you should be more clear in the future to avoid confusion.

Quoting SMOLT (Thread starter):
2. This is no minor incident and should not happen, but in reality the same thing occasionally happens. I have witnessed many years ago Air China went so much as to start take off running in spite that he was just cleared to hold short of runway. Tower cried "Stop! Stop! Stop!" then the China Air rejected take off. At this, the United 747 on approach was made to go around.

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