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EA Moonlight Shuttle

Wed Oct 24, 2007 4:07 pm

In another thread the EA moonlight shuttle was mentioned. I remembered flying it EWR-ORD. Does anyboby have any more info on the routes flown and time frame they were flown?
 
Tan Flyr
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RE: EA Moonlight Shuttle

Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:01 pm

IIRC, the majority of the EA "Moonlight Specials" were routed thru IAH. There may have been a few point to point routes but true focus of the operation was IAH and the A-300 fleet. There were maybe 12- 15 cities involved as I recall. (some one that was with EA can fill us in more) But the idea was to move cargo ( and cheap PAX at night) and still have the aircraft at appropriate cities early the next morning for first flights out on a normal basis.

Example might be LAX departure around 9 pm or so, to IAH, then that aircraft might go on up to Logan arriving maybe 5:30 Am..early enough that the cargo could be unloaded and sorted to trucks for delivery..and the aircrafr cleaned, fueled and prepped for say a 8 am departure to ATL or MCO or wherever. The aircraft would go thru its' normal daily routings ending early enough in the evening to be loaded with cargo to do it all over again. I'm sure at the time EA probably had the highest utilization rates on those A 300's of about any aircraft in America.

Hope that helps.
 
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RE: EA Moonlight Shuttle

Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:37 pm

Indeed the "Moonlight" special was operated by Eastern primarily to move cargo with some amazing cheap fares for the time sans baggage.
Flights operated using A300s from a IAH hub however I do believe for a short while another US city was also used. My memory is a little hazy however I believe the flights operated on behalf of either Emery or Purolator.
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RE: EA Moonlight Shuttle

Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:45 pm

The Moonlight Special did operate out of IAH until
EA was acquired by Texas Air which conflicted with
CO that had a hub there...it was then moved to ORD
which caused more problems to the operation since
weather is a factor, gate availability, etc.
It was totally scrapped by 1987.
 
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RE: EA Moonlight Shuttle

Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:13 pm

Thanks for the info. At least EA was trying to squeeze more utilization out of the 300 fleet. Too bad they disappeared.
 
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RE: EA Moonlight Shuttle

Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:18 pm

Here is some information from an Eastern Air Lines 1986 timetable regarding the Moonlight Special...

http://www.departedflights.com/EAmoonlightspecial.html

Lists the cities served as Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Chicago, Boston, New York/Newark, Philadelphia, Atlanta, Columbus (OH), Kansas City, Indianapolis, Charlotte, Minneapolis, Orlando and Miami.
The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of Southwest Airlines.
 
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RE: EA Moonlight Shuttle

Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:04 pm

All those fees for bags and food were so ahead of their time! Now that is becoming standard for all flights!
 
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RE: EA Moonlight Shuttle

Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:29 pm

Quoting WDBRR (Reply 3):
It was totally scrapped by 1987.

It must have been late 1987 because I flew for $49.00 round trip between ORD-MSP on the Moonlight Special flights in two EA DC9-50s....N405EA up and N413EA back, in March 1987....Believe me when I say that the takeoff run on the DC9 going up to MSP was the Loooooooooongest take off run I have ever had....I was just hoping that one of those engines wouldnt puke on take off....
The original contract out of Houston was to carry freight for CF Air Freight.....I actually have an old Moonlight Special timetable brochure that has the fares and schedules in it...Even tho Airbuses are not my favourite planes I had always wantd to fly on one of the Original A300s of Eastern....
The concept of moving people in that fashion nowadays would be kinda neat, however with all the Freight Airlines out there what the point....

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RE: EA Moonlight Shuttle

Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:24 pm

I just remember all of the extra change (quarters) we had to carry to make change for passenger purchases! Also, lots of carry ons since bags were usually not checked. I still thought the flights were fun to work.
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RE: EA Moonlight Shuttle

Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:21 pm

Since the EA A300's had a 1st Class section how did they sell those seats on the Moonlight Special? Did they offer upgrades for a extra cost?
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RE: EA Moonlight Shuttle

Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:29 am

I thought they had a hub at MCI?
 
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RE: EA Moonlight Shuttle

Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:17 am

Quoting Seatback (Reply 10):
I thought they had a hub at MCI?

They did. I don't understand what your question/statement means.
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RE: EA Moonlight Shuttle

Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:39 am

The F-class section was usually not put up for sale. It was only used in case of oversales and still had the same service level as economy if used.
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RE: EA Moonlight Shuttle

Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:52 am

I remember flying it, late 80s, ATL-IAH-IND

ATL-IAH in an A300
IAH-IND in a DC-9

I do miss that airline...
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RE: EA Moonlight Shuttle

Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:58 pm

Anyone remember what the cross country fares were for these flights back then?

[Edited 2007-10-26 06:00:25]
 
timz
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RE: EA Moonlight Special

Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:13 pm

As I recall Calif to IAH and NY to IAH were each $69, and the cross-country total might have been $138. (It's Moonlight Special, not Shuttle.)

[Edited 2007-10-26 06:14:46]
 
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RE: EA Moonlight Shuttle

Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:09 pm

Anyone remember EA's seat configuration on the A300's were?
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RE: EA Moonlight Shuttle

Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:03 pm

Quoting 717-200 (Reply 16):
Anyone remember EA's seat configuration on the A300's were?

Give or take a few seats F24Y230
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RE: EA Moonlight Shuttle

Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:11 pm

I remember flying a 757 SFO-EWR non-stop @ 11pm/September 6, 1986 after clearing
Oakland Army Base/US Army outprocessing center.




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