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Avolar In Negotiations To Start Longhaul Flights

Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:52 am

The company is looking at starting flights from Toluca to Vigo-Peinador (VGO) airport, in Galicia (Spain). The articules says that they would operate with a 737 seating 126 pax. What do you think? any updates on this?

This is my source (only in spanish).
http://www.farodevigo.es/secciones/n...rimer-vuelo-transoceanico-Peinador
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RE: Avolar In Negotiations To Start Longhaul Flights

Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:40 am

Hola
Poco raro no?
Joining Toluca with Galicia. Interesting...
Is there even a possible way for a 737 to fly with 126 pax including cargo and fuel?
It's good to hear that airlines are expanding their destinations to cities other than the usual capital cities, but this one caught me by surprise. I wonder what kind of pax will this route be aimed to.

Someone fill me in on this

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RE: Avolar In Negotiations To Start Longhaul Flights

Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:35 pm

No tiene sentido... That's odd. I guess they could get a ninja-73G like Privatair and do long haul flying but that wouldn't make any sense with respect to their model. A 73G is probably cheap to operate transatlantic in terms of total cost but the unit costs can't be very conducive to low fares.
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RE: Avolar In Negotiations To Start Longhaul Flights

Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:44 pm

Probably nothing more than speculation. If Aladia hasn't leased an second-hand 767 to do this, Avolar sure won't.

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 2):
I guess they could get a ninja-73G like Privatair and do long haul flying

Taking into acount TLC's altitude, It better be a real "ninja' to fly to Europe non-stop with 126 pax on-board.
 
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RE: Avolar In Negotiations To Start Longhaul Flights

Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:59 pm

Quoting Embajador3 (Thread starter):
Avolar In Negotiations To Start Longhaul Flights

 irked 

So what's the route going to be like, TLC-IAH-JFK-YQX-UAK-KEF-DUB-VGO?

Ya right.  Yeah sure

The only way I could see them doing that is if they sub-charter, or get a temporary lease from some other airline for a 330 or 767, and even then, at 8000ft the flights will be severely weight restricted out of TLC
 
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RE: Avolar In Negotiations To Start Longhaul Flights

Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:10 pm

I can now see that if the Saba family would have won the bid to take over AeroMexico from the government, they would surely have announced new direct service between Mexico City and Beirut. Yet, this one would have made more sense than the flight being proposed by Avolar.


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RE: Avolar In Negotiations To Start Longhaul Flights

Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:31 pm

A Volar flies a fleet of B735s. Even a BBJ1 cannot make the TLC-VGO run without stops. TLC, at an elevation of 8460Ft imposes very heavy restrictions on aircraft.

Besides... the market niche A Volar caters to is unlikely to show interest or needs to fly to Vigo, of all places... This sounds very odd...

And talking about Mexican LCCs going international, Interjet announced its new TLC-GUA run with a sweet 2x1 deal. Later on, you can book flights for as low as US$49 each way.

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RE: Avolar In Negotiations To Start Longhaul Flights

Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:33 pm

Quoting Juventus (Reply 3):
Taking into acount TLC's altitude, It better be a real "ninja' to fly to Europe non-stop with 126 pax on-board.

A 737-700ER can do it with no trouble.

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RE: Avolar In Negotiations To Start Longhaul Flights

Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:56 pm

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 7):
A 737-700ER can do it with no trouble.

Nonstop, you mean? It would need to be 120-minutes ETOPS-certified (which A Volar is so not going to get), and even then, at almost 5400 miles distance, taking off at almost 8500 Ft, wwith 126 pax, and requiring an additional half hour of fuel, I just don't think so...

Where would the stops be for an A Volar B733/735? I say the route should go TLC-CLT-YHZ-KEF-VGO...

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RE: Avolar In Negotiations To Start Longhaul Flights

Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:40 pm

I was thinking that the article was wrong and that Avolar could use a 752 for that route, otherwise i can not see a 735 operating TLC-VGO!!!
what do you guys reckon?

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