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Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:15 pm

AIRBUS A330/A340 Thread -- By Wings

Well after being asked by several members, I have updated the A330/A340 thread so that we can all keep a better track of what is happening, with this family of aircraft.

We can also conclude that to this present date, Airbus has secured a total of 156 orders for the A330 family with an additional 77 pending orders. If Airbus manages to firm up all those orders then the grand total comes to 233 frames ordered in 2007.  Smile

But the best thing is that the year isn't over yet, with great potential for some more to be announced.  Wink

On a less positive note the A340 family has suffered a total of 26 cancellations + 6 conversion. Despite this fact, the A340 series managed to secure a total of 12 orders + 5 pending orders in 2007

AIRBUS A330-200



Aercap x 10
Avianca x 10
Etihad x 4
Egyptair x 5
Hong Kong Airlines x 20
US Airways x 10 *(pending)
China Southern x 10 *(pending)
Libyan Airlines x 4 *(pending)
Oman Air x 6 *(pending)
Group Marsans x 5 *(pending)
Kingfisher x 10 *(pending)
TAM x 4 *(pending)

Total Firm: 49
Total Pending: 49
Firm Backlog: 172
Firm/Pending Total: 98

AIRBUS A330-200F



Avion Aircraft Trading x 8
Flyington x 12
Guggenheim x 6
MNG Cargo x 2
Intrepid x 20
Aircastle x 15
Etihad x 3
ACT Airlines x 2 *(pending)

Total Firm: 66
Total Pending: 2
Firm Backlog: 66
Firm/Pending Total: 68

AIRBUS A330-200 (MRTT/TANKER)



Royal Air Force x 14 *(pending)
Royal Saudi Air Force x 2 *(pending)
United Arab Emirates Air Force x 3 *(pending)

Total Firm: 0
Total Pending: 19
Backlog: 5 (* counted as private customer in the A332 colum on the Airbus O/D spreed sheet.)

AIRBUS A330-300



Etihad x 1
Fly Asian Xpress x 15
Thai International x 8
Air Caraibes x 2
Swiss International Airlines x 9
Finnair x 6 ( converted from A343 order, but not yet updated on the Airbus O/D spread sheet.
Finnair x 1 *(pending)
Aer Lingus x 6 *(pending)

Total Firm: 41
Total Pending: 7
Firm Backlog: 91 (excludes Finnair's A343 conversion)
Firm/Pending Total: 48

AIRBUS A340-200/300



Finnair x 1 ( 6 were converted to the A33,but not yet updated on the Airbus O/D spread sheet. )
Private Customer x 1

Total Firm: 2
Total Pending: 0
Firm Backlog: 3

AIRBUS A340-500



Kingfisher Airlines x 5
Private Customer x 1
Private Customer x 1

Total Firm : 2
Total Pending: 5
Firm Backlog: 7

AIRBUS A340-600



Etihad x 4
Iberia x 3
Private Customer x 1

Total Firm: 8
Total Pending: 0
Backlog: 27

CANCELLATIONS:

LAN 2 x A343
Emirates 18 x A346
Aerolineas Argentina 6 x A346

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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:18 pm

Quoting WINGS (Thread starter):
Aerolineas Argentina

One minor correction there: Aerolineas Argentinas

Very nice thread Wings, excellent sum up on this great Aircraft family!!!

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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:26 pm

Quoting WINGS (Thread starter):
We can also conclude that to this present date, Airbus has secured a total of 156 orders for the A330 family with an additional 77 pending orders. If Airbus manages to firm up all those orders then the grand total comes to 233 frames ordered in 2007

It has been a very good year for the A-330, and the A-330F. Congradulations, Airbus.

Quoting WINGS (Thread starter):
On a less positive note the A340 family has suffered a total of 26 cancellations + 6 conversion. Despite this fact, the A340 series managed to secure a total of 12 orders + 5 pending orders in 2007

Let's face it, the A-340 is a dog compared to other airplanes in this class, her stable mate, the A-330, and from Boeing the B-767 and B-777. Even the B-767 has out sold the A-340 this year.

Quoting WINGS (Thread starter):
Firm/Pending Total:

This seems to be a contradiction to me. Firm means the customer definately wants these airplanes, and is less likely to cancel the order. While pending means the customer is leaning towards an order, but has not committed to these airplanes, yet, and still could cancel.
 
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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:41 pm

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 2):
While pending means the customer is leaning towards an order

Typically, the term "pending" is used on a.net when an airline has announced its intention to order the plane (or has signed an LOI or MOU), but hasn't yet signed a firm contract. The pending "orders" are not listed or counted by Airbus or Boeing. BA's recent announcement that it would order A380s and 787s is a good example of a pending order.

Hamlet69's excellent order threads keep track of these pending orders.
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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:48 pm

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 2):

It has been a very good year for the A-330, and the A-330F. Congradulations, Airbus.

This year the A330 has already broken its previous sales record (110 frames ) and will most likely manage to double that previous sales record set in the year 2000.  Smile

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 2):
Let's face it, the A-340 is a dog compared to other airplanes in this class,

The A340 has proved to be a reliable workhorse for the airlines that operate it. Its no wonder that not a single A340 is currently parked in the desert.

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 2):
her stable mate, the A-330, and from Boeing the B-767 and B-777. Even the B-767 has out sold the A-340 this year.

Since when does the 767 compete with the A340? Its pointless to compare them both, as they serve two different markets, while the majority of 767 sales recorded this year are for freighters.

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 2):
This seems to be a contradiction to me. Firm means the customer definately wants these airplanes, and is less likely to cancel the order. While pending means the customer is leaning towards an order, but has not committed to these airplanes, yet, and still could cancel.

Pending basically means that its currently a LOI/MOU which has yet to be firmed up.  Wink

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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:48 pm

why for god's sake Etihad is ordering an A330-300??? this makes no sense, they have a strong fleet of A330-200 but why only one -300?
 
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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:53 pm

Wings as far as I know next summer AY will get 2 A340-300E's and then its all A330-300E's.  Smile
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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:01 am

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 5):
why for god's sake Etihad is ordering an A330-300??? this makes no sense, they have a strong fleet of A330-200 but why only one -300?

Whats to say they will not buy more in the future or possibly convert some A332's ?

Quoting Teme82 (Reply 6):
Wings as far as I know next summer AY will get 2 A340-300E's and then its all A330-300E's.

That's correct. Airbus currently have three more A340-300 to be delivered. Finnair x 2 and a Private Customer x 1.  Sad

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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:12 am

Quoting WINGS (Reply 7):
That's correct. Airbus currently have three more A340-300 to be delivered. Finnair x 2 and a Private Customer x 1

Good since your list needs updating  Wink

Quoting WINGS (Thread starter):
AIRBUS A340-200/300
Finnair x 1 ( 6 were converted to the A33,but not yet updated on the Airbus O/D spread sheet. )

So it would be Finnair x 2 and the rest would be A333's and that would be 5 or 6 planes??
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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:19 am

Quoting WINGS (Thread starter):
We can also conclude that to this present date, Airbus has secured a total of 156 orders for the A330 family with an additional 77 pending orders. If Airbus manages to firm up all those orders then the grand total comes to 233 frames ordered in 2007.


No doubt it will be the best year for A330.

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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:23 am

Quoting Teme82 (Reply 8):
Good since your list needs updating

The list is correct. Please check again.

Quoting Teme82 (Reply 8):
So it would be Finnair x 2 and the rest would be A333's and that would be 5 or 6 planes??

Finnair ordered 7 A330/340 in early 2007. From that order they have opted to split the order for 6 x A333 and 1 x A343.

When announcing the final split between the A330/A340 in September, Finnair announced that they were firming up one option for the A333. This takes their total to 7 A333's on order.

Finnair also has one outstanding A343 order placed in 2006. So with one A343 order from 2006 and another from 2007, gives them a total of 2 A343's to be delivered.  Wink

Its a little confusing, but as soon as Airbus updates their O/D spread sheet, everything will be more clear.

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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:53 am

Quoting WINGS (Reply 10):

Finnair also has one outstanding A343 order placed in 2006. So with one A343 order from 2006 and another from 2007, gives them a total of 2 A343's to be delivered.


I see so I got confused about those orders Big grin
Thanks for the update  Smile
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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:04 am

Hi Wings

Thank you so much for this!
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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:31 am

Hey Wings Great to see the thread back

Congrats to one of my favourite Aircraft the Airbus A330, and to Airbus and Wings

What are the other possible passenger orders we can expect, i hear 9W is a strong contender to firm up its options

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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:58 am

Quoting Chiad (Reply 12):
Hi Wings

Thank you so much for this!



Quoting Chiad (Reply 12):
Hey Wings Great to see the thread back

Well I'm glad to bring it back.  Smile Especially as I expect some more action until the end of the year.  Wink

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 13):
What are the other possible passenger orders we can expect, i hear 9W is a strong contender to firm up its options

Plenty of rumours circulating regarding upcoming orders.

Jet Airways
Air India
Conviasa


I also expect to see more A332F orders in the near future, hopefully at Dubai, and then we also have the 767 vs A332 battle for the USAF.

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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:21 am

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 13):
What are the other possible passenger orders we can expect, i hear 9W is a strong contender to firm up its options

That's a very strong possibility, in my opinion, just a question as to whether it's finalised this year.

Quoting WINGS (Reply 14):
I also expect to see more A332F orders in the near future

What about a leasing commitment from 9W  duck 

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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:37 am

What about the US Airways 340 orders. Are they for real and if so where do they show up?
 
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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:05 pm

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Reply 15):

That's a very strong possibility, in my opinion, just a question as to whether it's finalised this year.

Well isn't that a interesting development. I also suspected that it would be a matter of time before they committed to those options.

They might as well secure some delivery slots, especially as they are filling up quickly, even with output increasing to 9+ units per month for the A330/A340 line.

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Reply 15):
What about a leasing commitment from 9W

This is what I have been wondering myself. Plenty of leasing companies committed to the A332F, and still plenty of them to be allocated. The A332F for 9W, makes great sense.

Quoting Bobnwa (Reply 16):
What about the US Airways 340 orders. Are they for real and if so where do they show up?

The recent A330 order has the option to be converted to the A340 series, if US Airways sees a need. So until they confirm/convert, the order will appear only for the A330 series.

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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:15 pm

There is a rumour about Emirates ordering 30X A330 on another thread. The variant is not yet specified. I guess all will be revealed at the Dubai Air Show

If true, it will be another feather in the cap of the A330.
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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:26 pm

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 5):
why for god's sake Etihad is ordering an A330-300??? this makes no sense, they have a strong fleet of A330-200 but why only one -300?

It will be used as a state transport aircraft, from what i heard.
 
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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:20 pm

Emirates is looking at the moment for capacity, and A333 would be a perfect interim plane for them. It can carry loads of cargo over a distance EK''s A332 fly to. The longest destination that is served by an EK 332 is probably Hong Kong, and its still more than enough range for an A333.

The Dubai Air Show is just around the corner and we will see.

Great job WINGS, and I appreciate your work in this thread!

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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:40 am

One for next year. Not this year. AirAsiaX will exercise their 10 x A330 Options in Q1 2008.

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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:09 pm

Well Airbus has finally updated their spread sheet, with the following orders taking place.

US Airways 10 x A332
Private Customer 1x A332

With these confirmations the total of A330 orders in 2007 increases to 167 frames

This also leaves Airbus with an extra 60 frames that have yet to be firmed up.

Also to note that Airbus has not yet confirmed Finnair's conversion of six A343's for the A333 and the extra order also placed during the conversion.

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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:20 pm

I am sure this is known but can anyone tell me again:

How many A346 did LH order?? How many remain to be delivered??? Are most of them HGW ones??
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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:22 pm

Quoting WINGS (Reply 22):

Also to note that Airbus has not yet confirmed Finnair's conversion of six A343's for the A333 and the extra order also placed during the conversion.

Any info why they haven't done so?? Because there is possibility that AY is going to lease those planes? As far as I know the contract has part that enables AY to change the ownership of those planes so that they would be sold to leaser...
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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:22 pm

Quoting Mk777 (Reply 23):
How many A346 did LH order??

LH ordered a total of 24 A340-600's.

Quoting Mk777 (Reply 23):
How many remain to be delivered???

Of the 24 ordered 17 frames have been delivered. 7 frames have yet to be delivered.

Quoting Mk777 (Reply 23):
Are most of them HGW ones??

Airbus is now only offering the A340-500/600 with the HGW version. So all remaining orders for the A345 and A346, will the HGW version.

Quoting Teme82 (Reply 24):
Any info why they haven't done so?? Because there is possibility that AY is going to lease those planes? As far as I know the contract has part that enables AY to change the ownership of those planes so that they would be sold to leaser...

No, I have no idea, as to why its taking so long.

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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:26 pm

We may be seeing an A330-300F added to this list shortly. It seems that Fedex and other customers are interested, and Airbus is in talks with them. I'd expect an official launch early 2008.  Wink
 
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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:54 pm

Quoting WINGS (Reply 22):
With these confirmations the total of A330 orders in 2007 increases to 167 frames

This also leaves Airbus with an extra 60 frames that have yet to be firmed up.

Which is incredible for a plane that will soon face its successors. It might actually go over the 200 mark this year.

Quoting R2rho (Reply 26):
We may be seeing an A330-300F added to this list shortly. It seems that Fedex and other customers are interested, and Airbus is in talks with them. I'd expect an official launch early 2008.

Would make sense, wouldn't it? The additional development costs of that version can't be too high. With the A332F and the A333F the A330 line will stay busy for a long time.
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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:02 pm

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 2):
Let's face it, the A-340 is a dog compared to other airplanes in this class, her stable mate, the A-330, and from Boeing the B-767 and B-777. Even the B-767 has out sold the A-340 this year.

Well, from Airbus' point of view, it does not make any difference if the A340-300 sells poorly as long as the A330-300 sells fantastically well. It is an airline family that has been designed as such. Realistically, every A340-330 sold, even only in small numbers, is a nice bonus on top of the A330-330 sales. It does not require an extra assembly line, parts pretty much are the same etc. etc.

I am tempted to say the ones who care more about whether the A340 or A330 sells or does not sell are the engine manufacturers.
 
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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:41 am

Interesting thread and nice work WINGS!!! I agree the A330 has been selling very well so far. However, I was thinking of the huge EK A350XWB order for 70 frames and 50 options announced recently. Combined with the other large QR order for the A350XWB this means there will be a lot of secondhand A330s coming available on the market which are in good shape. One can ask the question how these very big A350 orders will impact any other potential A330 future order. The A330s coming available in a few years from EK and QR alone are in good shape making them attractive to other potential or existing A330 operators. Cargo conversions also come to mind.

What do you think? To what extend will these big A350 orders impact the A330 potential? I know the A350 is bigger than the A330 but EK and QR will not keep their A330s when they start receiving the A350s.

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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:29 am

ORDER UPDATE:

With the following firm order from Oman, the total of A330's ordered in 2007 increases to 172 frames. Smile

2 x A330-200
3 x A330-300



Dubai 2007: Oman firms deal for five A330s.

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...man-firms-deal-for-five-a330s.html

Middle Eastern carrier Oman Air has firmed up its deal with Airbus for three A330-300s and a pair of A330-200.

The carrier earlier this year revealed it had signed a letter of intent to take up to five A330s to support its resumption of long-haul services.

It has now signed a firm contract for five A330s with Airbus. No engine choice has yet been made.

Oman Air Ziad Al-Haremi says: "Our decision to buy the Airbus A330 all came down to the suitability of the aircraft with our long term strategy to operate an efficient and reliable fleet with proven operating costs."


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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:33 am



Quoting R2rho (Reply 26):
We may be seeing an A330-300F added to this list shortly. It seems that Fedex and other customers are interested, and Airbus is in talks with them. I'd expect an official launch early 2008. Wink

Would make sense and I guess Fedex has the need for such an aircraft to replace their DC/MD 10s. It is perfect for routes within the US and Airbus still has to make up for the A380F cancelation.
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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:50 pm



Quoting WINGS (Reply 30):
With the following firm order from Oman, the total of A330's ordered in 2007 increases to 172 frames.

iow: 28 to go.

I'm glad Oman is taking the -200 and the -300.
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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:07 pm

If the normal A330-300 range is about 5500nm, how much range will -300E version have?
Also, is there a A330-200E? If not would Airbus make one to replace A343?
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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:37 pm

Can anyone tell me how many A332's has 9W ordered? I know 2 frames have been delivered so far VT-JWF/G

I am sure VT-JWH is soon going to join the fleet!!! That makes 3

Do they have 7 more to be delivered or 5 for a total of 10 or 8???

When do the 2 leased A332's (VT-JWD/E) go back to ILFC??
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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:42 pm



Quoting Mk777 (Reply 34):
Can anyone tell me how many A332's has 9W ordered?

Ten.

They got two and operate four, which means they are leasing two and own two and have eight more to be delivered.

Quoting Mk777 (Reply 34):
When do the 2 leased A332's (VT-JWD/E) go back to ILFC??

I don't know.
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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:10 pm

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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:56 am



Quoting BRxxx (Reply 33):
If the normal A330-300 range is about 5500nm, how much range will -300E version have?Also, is there a A330-200E? If not would Airbus make one to replace A343?

the E does not have any significant range increase over a non E, the improvements relate to avionics (LCD displays instead of CRTs and some other A345/6 equipment) and engine mx/emission issues and not to any significant fuel burn improvements or increased weights per se.
 
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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:35 am

ORDER UPDATE:



Aer Lingus has now firmed up its MOU for 6 A330-300's and 6 A350-900's. With this development, the total of firm A330 orders rises up to 178 frames  Smile

Still awaiting official link.

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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:43 am



Quoting WINGS (Reply 38):
With this development, the total of firm A330 orders rises up to 178 frames Smile

in total or for 2007  Wink
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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:35 am



Quoting Columba (Reply 39):
in total or for 2007

Yes that's the total number of sales for the A330 in 2007.

Overall the A330 program has now reached a total of 846 firm orders, of which a total of 560 frames, have been delivered.  Smile

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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:40 am

Hainan Airlines takes delivery of their first A330
14 November 2007




http://www.airbus.com/en/presscentre...07_11_14_hainan_delivery_a330.html

Hainan Airlines Company Limited (HNA), a subsidiary of the HNA Group, based in China, has taken delivery of its first A330 on lease from CIT Aerospace. The aircraft powered by Rolls Royce Trent 700 engines was handed over to the HNA Chairman, Mr. CHEN Feng in a ceremony held in Toulouse. The aircraft will seat 222 passengers in a two-class configuration.

The HNA Group, the fourth largest aviation group in China, comprises Hainan Airlines, Xinhua Airlines, Changan Airlines, Shanxi Airlines and is now setting up its Grand China Air. The group currently operates 12 A319s and has 98 Airbus aircraft on order.

“Today is a remarkable day in the continuous, fast and healthy development of our airline and marks an important step for our future success. This new aircraft in service will allow us to expand services to major business and leisure destinations across China and to offer new routes, benefiting from the aircraft’s unique operational costs savings while providing our passengers with an optimal travel comfort” said Mr. CHEN Feng, Chairman of HNA Group.

“We are delighted that Airbus is a part of HNA Group’s rapid growth and are proud of their choice for the A330-200 to further extend their success. This reflects again the advantages that the A330 offers in terms of route efficiency and passenger comfort in addition to the commonality with the A320 Family aircraft already in service within the group. All of us at Airbus wish Hainan Airlines and HNA Group a very bright future”, said Fabrice Bregier, Airbus Chief Operating Officer.


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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:50 pm



Quoting WINGS (Reply 41):

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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Thu Nov 15, 2007 3:00 pm



Quoting WINGS (Reply 40):
Yes that's the total number of sales for the A330 in 2007.

You have a few weeks left in 2007 Wings, going for 200 by close of books? "Only" 22 more!  thumbsup 
 
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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Thu Nov 15, 2007 3:36 pm



Quoting WINGS (Thread starter):
Fly Asian Xpress x 15

Whats going on with FAX these days? I tried to visit their website to see when they plan to start operations with A330's, but this is what i got: http://www.flyasianxpress.com/site/en/fax/home.jsp

Have they ceased operations for good??
 
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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:56 pm



Quoting SKA380 (Reply 44):
Have they ceased operations for good??

The website clearly states that their flights to Sabah and Sarawak have been ceased. Try their main website at:



And a link to Air Asia X:

http://www.airasia.com/site/au/en/pa...ae-edd9de00-a5c8a10e&reference=aax

I assume this is what you are looking for.

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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:21 am

Well like most of us are aware, the A340-600 has recently suffered two severe accidents. My thoughts go out to all the victims and their families.  Sad

May they all have all have a speedy recovery.


IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO (by Tomascubero Nov 9 2007 in Civil Aviation)
Pt. 2: IB A346 Skids Off The RWY In UIO (by Jogales Nov 18 2007 in Civil Aviation)


Airbus Ground Test Accident (by Anzacbat Nov 15 2007 in Civil Aviation)

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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:00 am

Can these damages can be repaired or are they too severe?
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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:53 am



Quoting Bobnwa (Reply 16):
What about the US Airways 340 orders. Are they for real and if so where do they show up?

They have the option to change some of their A330s on order into A340s. But as I have understood the plans of US is to get A340s on the second hand market for their China routes. I guess they will try to get ex Air Canada aircraft. It is a Star Alliance partner and AC will replace its A340s with 777s. A second hand A340 is a lesser risk for US, the costs are not too high and if they sell their A340s when the A350s are coming they would not loose as much money as if they have ordered a brand new aircraft.
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RE: Airbus A330/A340 Thread (Part 2)

Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:07 am



Quoting LY777 (Reply 47):
Can these damages can be repaired or are they too severe?

Well they said the Etihad one is a write off...

And just to add to the black month for the 340... just heard an Emirates 340 got a bird strike in Entebbe and is now grounded over there... anyone got more info?
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