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Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:02 am

Aviation in Nigeria VI


The archive: Aviation In Nigeria: Overview And Update (by KL577 Nov 6 2006 in Civil Aviation) Aviation In Nigeria II (2007) (by ENU Jan 2 2007 in Civil Aviation) Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 3 (by AsoRock Mar 12 2007 in Civil Aviation) Aviation In Nigeria IV (by ENU May 2 2007 in Civil Aviation) Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 5 (by EurostarVA Sep 5 2007 in Civil Aviation)


Airlines currently active in Nigeria:
Aero Contractors - http://www.flyaero.com
Allied Airlines - http://www.alliedaircargo.com
Arik Air - http://www.arikair.com
Associated Airlines - http://www.associatedaviationlimited.com
Bellview Airlines - http://www.flybellviewair.com
Capital Airlines -
Chanchangi Airlines - http://www.chanchangi-airlines.com and http://www.chanchangi.com
IRS Airlines - http://www.irs-airlines.com and http://www.irsairlines.net
Kabo Air - http://www.kaboair.com
Overland Airways - http://www.overland.aero
Virgin Nigeria - http://www.virginnigeria.com


Starting operations next year:
Dana Air -- http://www.flydanaair.com
 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:06 am

Some airline news:

Arik Air
- Will decide on ordering A380's or B748's after initial talks with Airbus...
- An additional three CRJ-900's were ordered (confirmed, but not yet announced)
- Will receive two more B737-700's next month (from SkyEurope, OM-NGQ and OM-NGR). The first one is currently at MIA for interior outfit
- Flights to the UK/US are definitely postponed till next year, however some more domestic destinations (Yola, Maiduguri and Sokoto) will be served shortly.

Virgin Nigeria
- All five remaining B737-300's will be withdrawn next year and are destined for bmibaby. Remarkably, VK is still recruiting pilots for the B737's.
- Will wet-lease a B767 from Flyglobespan for the winter, but perhaps the fact that they lost their ETOPS-certification will affect this contract, assuming that the aircraft will be employed on direct flights to the US. Or will it replace one of the Latcharter B767's? There were some rumours that Air Baltic would lease a B767 from Latcharter a few weeks ago (?)
- VK expands its regional operations, adding Cotonou (3x weekly) from the 12th of November onwards
- Still no official confirmation of the 10 EMB-170/190 order

Aero
- Will receive another Dash 8-Q300 (currently being painted at EIN)
- Reduced flights from/to Owerri

Chanchangi
- Their B727 (5N-BDG) was re-certified by the NCAA after an emergency landing some weeks ago
- Operating charter flights to Sudan
- Reportedly ordered some new aircraft, but are experiencing some serious problems: Who Will Knock Chanchangi to Order?

Bellview
- Apart from the two A320's (ex-AF) that will arrive next year, no news

Overland
- Commenced flights to Ilorin (from/to Abuja and Lagos) on week days




Sosoliso
- Their MD-82 (5N-BII) was flown from LOS to SAT recently. Probably sold, as the FAAN will remove all grounded aircraft from the airports soon


That's it for now, I think.

[Edited 2007-10-26 17:08:32]
 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Sat Oct 27, 2007 10:22 am

Thanks again for the new thread!

Quoting ENU (Reply 1):
- All five remaining B737-300's will be withdrawn next year and are destined for bmibaby. Remarkably, VK is still recruiting pilots for the B737's.

So what are they going to fly then domestically. The rumour was that the E-jets would come in the second half of 2008. Does this seem to coincide with the phasing out of the 737s?

Quoting ENU (Reply 1):
Overland
- Commenced flights to Ilorin (from/to Abuja and Lagos) on week days

I was under the impression that they already served Ilorin?

Quoting ENU (Reply 1):
- Reportedly ordered some new aircraft, but are experiencing some serious problems: Who Will Knock Chanchangi to Order?

To quote from the article:

"That is why whenever a plane is about to take off in Nigeria, all passengers, including election riggers and murderers, would start muttering words of faith to their creators. The Muslims take out their beads while the Christians start declaring the "Blood of Jesus". Others, in fact, start praying in unknown tongues. Air travel in Nigeria has become a very serious business. While such prayers should be encouraged, airline owners should play their own part. Cutting corners can only lead to hellfire in the here and now!"

 checkmark  , Yep, this is flying in Nigeria. In fact that's why I stopped flying Bellview and IRS. I found the deep silence before take off, combined with the sound of rolling beads very disturbing myself as well. I feel a bit more comfortable on board VK and AJ. But on a more serious note, if true, this should be enough reason to ground the operations of Chanchangi completely:

"Negligence and obsolescent aircraft are not the only problems of the airline. There is also the issue of recklessness of the airlines with the souls on board. Within the last one week, Chanchangi has landed twice at the old Kaduna airport well after 7pm, when it had become dark. The main Kaduna airport has been shut for sometime and aircraft now land at the old airport; the rule there is that they must land before 5pm because there are no facilities for night landing."

Then some other (open) questions:

- Do you guys have more info on Hajj flights? Kabo's remaining 747s have been actively flying around the last days, but what about the other operators?
- I saw a Sudan Airways A310 flying low over Kano town the other day. Apparently they still serve Kano, but what about Lagos?
- What about Ocean air's proposed service to LOS?
- Has DL obtained the necessary approvals for the ATL services?

Some other small newsbits:
- PHC airport is still due to open in the first quarter of 2008.
- Air France will launch a weekly freighter service to Lagos, starting this IATA winter timetable
 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Sat Oct 27, 2007 10:27 am

Hi. Sorry if this has been discussed in any previous thread - I heard that VK are planning some services from LOS-DUB over the New Year and are also working on semi-regular flights between the two cities in the near future.
Is there any confirmation in Nigeria about this, or any word on flights at all?

Thanks.
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Sat Oct 27, 2007 10:38 am

Quoting AC747 (Reply 3):
Hi. Sorry if this has been discussed in any previous thread - I heard that VK are planning some services from LOS-DUB over the New Year and are also working on semi-regular flights between the two cities in the near future.
Is there any confirmation in Nigeria about this, or any word on flights at all?

Thanks.

No, this hasn't been discussed, neither have I seen any news on this in Nigeria. Is there a market for flights from LOS to DUB?
 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Sat Oct 27, 2007 10:47 am

Thank you guys for the news items....

Quoting AC747 (Reply 3):
I heard that VK are planning some services from LOS-DUB

Do you mean Dublin or Dubai (DXB) ?
 
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Sat Oct 27, 2007 10:48 am

Quoting KL577 (Reply 4):
No, this hasn't been discussed, neither have I seen any news on this in Nigeria. Is there a market for flights from LOS to DUB?

I don't have facts and figures but there is a very healthy sized Nigerian ex-pat population in Ireland, which I have often thought would appreciate a service back to the homeland.
There are a few posts on the latest Irish Aviation thread on A.net about these flights. It seems that VK plan to run New Year flights and then guage the demand after that and possibly operate seasonal services to DUB.
Just like you, KL577, I have seen no other word on this, but certainly thought it would be an interesting link for VK to run.
I guess it's early days for this rumour, but it's one that certainly caught my attention.
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Sat Oct 27, 2007 10:49 am

Quoting Flitemax (Reply 5):
Do you mean Dublin or Dubai (DXB) ?

Dublin.
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Sat Oct 27, 2007 10:51 am

Quoting AC747 (Reply 3):
I heard that VK are planning some services from LOS-DUB over the New Year and are also working on semi-regular flights between the two cities in the near future.

This makes sense, because VK wet-leased a third B767. No official announcement yet. The latest news was that:

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It will add a third 767 on wet lease to expand its long-haul network. Code-share operations with North American Airlines to New York are underway, and next year, when the third 767 arrives, Virgin Nigeria will fly to New York independently. Services to China and Dubai also are in the near-term plan, as are several African destinations.



Quoting KL577 (Reply 2):
Does this seem to coincide with the phasing out of the 737s?

I think so. The first Embraers are scheduled to arrive in September 2008. Are VK actually leasing one or two F50's?

Quoting KL577 (Reply 2):
I was under the impression that they already served Ilorin?

I'm not sure. Overland has a new schedule on its website anyway (daily flights between Lagos, Abuja, Ibadan and Ilorin).

Source: http://www.kwarastate.gov.ng/pixcom.html

Quote:
Kwara State Commissioner for Works and Transport, Barr. Razak Atunwa in a handshake with Chief Operating Officer, Mr. Richard Aisuebeogun, during the flagoff of Overland Airways Ilorin/Lagos route. yesterday 3rd October, 2007, in Ilorin.



Quoting KL577 (Reply 2):
Kabo's remaining 747s have been actively flying around the last days, but what about the other operators?

I read somewhere that Kabo employs two 747's. Med-View Airlines will carry 10.000 pilgrims, but no information yet about aircraft to be used.

Source: http://allafrica.com/stories/200710221379.html

Quoting KL577 (Reply 2):
What about Ocean air's proposed service to LOS?

Was postponed repeatedly.

Airport news:
- Tracon Not Yet in Use At Airport - NATCA: http://allafrica.com/stories/200710221330.html
- The Ogun State Government has signed a contract with Dar-Al Hadassah of Dubai, United Arab, Emirates, for the construction of its planned Agro Cargo Airport - http://www.ogsgcargoairport.com/index2.htm
- Akwa Ibom state signed a new MoU with DynCorp to finish the construction of AKIA in the first half of next year.
- Any news about the new Calabar airport?
 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Sat Oct 27, 2007 4:21 pm

Quoting KL577 (Reply 2):
- I saw a Sudan Airways A310 flying low over Kano town the other day. Apparently they still serve Kano, but what about Lagos?

According to their website, they only serve Kano on Saturdays.
 
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Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:35 pm

Quoting ENU (Reply 9):
According to their website, they only serve Kano on Saturdays.

I saw them flying over Kano on a wednesday. Last time I was in Lagos the arrival screen indicated the arrival of a SD flight from KRT, and that was on a saturday. I guess their website is a bit out of date.

Quoting AC747 (Reply 6):
There are a few posts on the latest Irish Aviation thread on A.net about these flights. It seems that VK plan to run New Year flights and then guage the demand after that and possibly operate seasonal services to DUB.



Quoting ENU (Reply 8):
This makes sense, because VK wet-leased a third B767. No official announcement yet. The latest news was that:

Somehow a bit strange, as I had expected them to go to places like JED, CAI or BEY first. But then again, why try to establish routes head on with your competitors. In that regard it makes sense to try places like DUB, which might support healthy yields. I guess this is why they choose to start services to Cotonou instead of ROB or ABJ.

Quoting ENU (Reply 8):
I'm not sure. Overland has a new schedule on its website anyway (daily flights between Lagos, Abuja, Ibadan and Ilorin).

Source: http://www.kwarastate.gov.ng/pixcom.html

That's strange; I would have sworn to already served Ilorin for years. But I guess I was wrong then.
 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:41 pm

Quoting ENU (Reply 8):
I'm not sure. Overland has a new schedule on its website anyway (daily flights between Lagos, Abuja, Ibadan and Ilorin).

OK, I see they have stopped service from ABV to CBQ as well. I guess all this means the ATR42 is gone?
 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Sat Oct 27, 2007 6:12 pm

Quoting KL577 (Reply 10):
That's strange; I would have sworn to already served Ilorin for years.

Well, according to OAG and Amadeus they have been serving ILR for years, yes! I suspect that Overland has introduced Lagos-Ilorin-Lagos flights and that's new... I think the Ilorin-Abuja runs have been running for some time.

Does anyone know what happened to their ATR42?
 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Sat Oct 27, 2007 6:44 pm

Quoting Flitemax (Reply 12):
Quoting KL577 (Reply 10):
That's strange; I would have sworn to already served Ilorin for years.

Well, according to OAG and Amadeus they have been serving ILR for years, yes! I suspect that Overland has introduced Lagos-Ilorin-Lagos flights and that's new... I think the Ilorin-Abuja runs have been running for some time.

Or a restart of flights between ILR and LOS?

Quoting Flitemax (Reply 12):
Does anyone know what happened to their ATR42?

Still active with Overland. It made an emergency landing a few weeks ago at LOS and was pictured by Ken this summer:

http://www.airliners.net/uf/536921005/1188907964sel93r.jpg
 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Sat Oct 27, 2007 7:37 pm

Whose SAAB 340 is that?
 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Sat Oct 27, 2007 10:19 pm

Quoting Flitemax (Reply 14):

Acquired by Fresh Air, but thought to belong to Overland Airways now.
 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:15 pm

MMA2 Acquires state of the art buses
In line with its philosophy to provide world class services to customers, Bi- Courtney Aviation Services Limited, operators of the world class, Murtala Mohammed Airport terminal 2 (MMA2) has acquired four cobus 3000 buses. The cobus 3000 is a low- floor airport bus with capacity for 112 passengers (14 seated and 98 standing). This is more than the capacity of two city buses. The Cobus, which is state of the art, is to convey passengers from the terminal to the arrival point for easy access to their luggage.

More news on MMA2's not so functional website: http://www.mma2lagos.com/



Archive picture from the net.

Hopefully, they will also arrange transport from MMA 1 to MMA 2.
 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:13 am

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The Federal Airports Authority of Nigeria has intensified its upgrade of the nation's 21 airport facilities as part of efforts aimed at raising them to international standard.
Presently the runways of the Murtala Muhammed International Airport - 18L -36R- and Port Harcourt International Airport are undergoing resurfacing and reconstruction. These include upgrading their airfield lighting to CAT III status. The rehabilitation of the Lagos runway is about 70 per cent, including improvement to the profile. The latter ensures more safety and proper upgrading of the facility to international standard.

Source and more information: http://allafrica.com/stories/200710290590.html
 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:01 pm

Arik Air’s first anniversary!!!

Operating 65 domestic flights to 8 destinations daily: Lagos, Abuja, Port Harcourt NAF Base, Enugu, Benin City, Kano, Calabar, Warri. Maiduguri, Yola and Sokoto will be added to the network soon. Regional flights to West and Central African destinations will start in a few months time. Intercontinental flights have been postponed for the time being due to regulatory problems.

Fleet currently consists of 18 aircraft: 2x B737-300, 4x B737-700, 4x CRJ-900, 3x CRJ-200, 3x Dash 8-Q300 (wet-lease), 2x F50 (wet-lease).

Arik has a total of 29 aircraft on order: 4x Dash 8-Q400, 3x CRJ-900, 10x B737-800; 2x B777-200LR, 3x B777-300ER, 7x B787-9.

Congratulations with this quite impressive and ambitious start! Though some critical remarks should be made about the funding of the acquisitions and poor customer services. Nevertheless, I hope that Arik Air - Wings of Nigeria - will prove a reliable and respected international airline in the near future!


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In this news report about Arik Air’s anniversary, McTighe states that they have 36 aircraft on order. If correct, this would entail an undisclosed order of 7 aircraft in addition to those listed above.

Source: http://allafrica.com/stories/200710291359.html

So far for Arik Air - it will actually become boring if they stop ordering new aircraft.


Other news:

Following series of near-mishaps involving the fleet of Chanchagi Airline in the last few weeks, the Nigeria Civil Aviation Authority is commencing the audit of the Boeing 727 aircrafts.

Source: http://allafrica.com/stories/200710291271.html and http://allafrica.com/stories/200710291128.html

It was one year ago yesterday that a B737 of ADC Airlines crashed near Abuja (mentioned by KL577 in another thread too).

Source: http://allafrica.com/stories/200710291111.html
 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:33 pm

I read today that works on the PHC runway by Julius Berger PLC are in advanced stage and will be complete before the end of the year.

I want your predictions: Will the NCAA and FAAN reopen PHC to traffic before the apron + terminal expansions/renovations are complete? I personally think so...The inconveniences of operating at the NAF are substantial (short runway, small apron+terminal space, etc.). But I think airlines like Arik and other powerful forces will try to delay the inevitable for obvious strategic reasons. If Bellview, Chanchangi, Aero, and VK operate to PHC in full swing Arik will have much to lose....
 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:52 pm

Quoting Flitemax (Reply 19):

I would say wait till all construction and renovation work is completed before re-opening. I can't judge how much influence the airlines (especially the link between Arik and the current Rivers State Government is unclear) have on the decisions of the NCAA/FAAN. The NAF base is the rationale for Arik's LOS-ABV-Garden City-triangle flights, but they can anticipate on what is coming.

This is actually McTigh's answer to the question:

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Well, we wish it is completed early enough because we are going to operate regional and international flight operations from there. Port-Harcourt would be a big hub, Lagos is a big hub, Abuja is a big hub, and we are a little bit ready. Port-Harcourt just had a new modern facility and we will take advantage of the negative and turn it to positive.

Some other interesting statements from an otherwise poor interview in the Punch:

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As for funding, we get support from Nigerian banks and some other international financial institutions.

When we come up with a plan on what we want to do and how we want to do it, I think the strength and depth of the business plan is very crucial, that might be the motivating force. The more you plan, the less likely you are going to fail. When you are talking to multi national corporations, you talk about big banks, not just banks in Nigeria, these guys are very crucial, they are not ready to part with their money so you have to convince them very well before you get their attention.

We've looked ahead, we've looked at the market for flying aircraft, and we've looked at what we'll need to do over the years as leverage. We have got the Boeing, the Airbus and the Bombardier, and we have made more orders for aircraft. We've got new aircraft planned for 2017. That's the depth of the plan we are talking about.

So today, we have facilities that are very modern, and got highly skilled technicians and modern aircraft. And we are going forward with a bigger hangar that will contain bigger aircraft and more workshops for ourselves. That will be in the long term. To me it is almost criminal to have to send Nigerian aircraft to England for checks, why? We should be able to do it here. We've got to keep that money in Nigeria, invest it back and try to create jobs and the money will go round.

But the airports need to match up to that as well, because if you come in with a new aircraft there is a lot of potential, we just need to help rebuilding.

So they will have to change some of their regulations to stay in line with modern aviation. I think if we can do that, then the NCAA will be very effective. And I think the industry has to help NCAA and we have to help them more.

It was only recently that the NCAA installed an e-mail system, sometimes people outside the country asked the e-mail of NCAA, but they didn't have one, they need a turn around to help them move from maintaining old aircraft to today's aircraft.

Have you settled your rift with Skypower Aviation Handling Company over your damaged aircraft?

I won't go too much detail into that because we are still talking about the issues. We had an understanding which we respect. Although, that aircraft was badly damaged, I should say we have reached some compromise.

First of all with international routes, the first international route is the Lagos-Heathrow direct and we would soon be in position to do that, we also have the right to fly to the United States, and we have to find a category one airline operating on our behalf, which is all about international flights.

For the regional flights we are very close to concluding arrangements on that and we have also decided to build a very strong domestic airline for all Nigerians. And that's the bedrock upon which we will soon launch a regional multinational service and very soon there will be a launching, that's what we are trying to do. The beautiful thing is that we have got new aircraft.

Please excuse me for the long quotation, but I can't link directly to the article. It can be found in today's Punch: www.punchng.com .

Does he actually suggest that they ordered Airbus aircraft?
 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:01 pm

Quoting ENU (Reply 20):
Does he actually suggest that they ordered Airbus aircraft?

That's what it looks like, but it can be a mistake of the journalist as well. If they indeed order A380s that would be the shock of the year. Nevertheless I would like to hear the financial performance, and how they are going to improve their very unrealiable schedules. Have they moved to the new domestic terminal in Lagos by now?

Quoting ENU (Reply 20):
-Harcourt would be a big hub, Lagos is a big hub, Abuja is a big hub, and we are a little bit ready.

What does he mean by this: are they going to operate three hubs, with a hub and spoke operation?
 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:07 pm

Quoting KL577 (Reply 21):
Have they moved to the new domestic terminal in Lagos by now?

I think so, it was reported a couple of weeks ago.

Quoting KL577 (Reply 21):
Nevertheless I would like to hear the financial performance

McTighe: "As a matter of policy, we do not have to divulge how much we have invested. We think that if we put a number on the table, people get hooked up on the number and not actually how much we have achieved. In terms of financials, we are not to talk about numbers, rather we want to talk about practical achievements."

Quoting KL577 (Reply 21):
how they are going to improve their very unreliable schedules

Again McTighe: "We want to buy brand new aircraft, we are just looking out for efficient ways to carry out our services."

Quoting KL577 (Reply 21):
are they going to operate three hubs, with a hub and spoke operation?

They are clearly trying to establish a very strong domestic network. I think he just means that they will operate regional/international flights from these three airports. Not a bad strategy, considering that none of the airports has the capacity to facilitate their future fleet.
 
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Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:15 pm

Quoting ENU (Reply 20):
Does he actually suggest that they ordered Airbus aircraft?

Keep an eye at the Dubai Airshow. Arik and Airbus *might* make an announcement, but don't hold it against me if it doesn't materialize. Inside scoop  Smile
 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:24 pm

Quoting KL577 (Reply 21):
What does he mean by this: are they going to operate three hubs, with a hub and spoke operation?

It would seam so. Already they have consolidated LOS and ABV as seperate hubs. LOS has up to 18 flights and Abuja has 12. Both cities have a minimum of 5 destinations on offer. McTeighe is suggesting that with the reopening of PHC they have big plans there: Flights to the North and other zones, regional and intercon flights as quoted, etc.

Quoting ENU (Reply 22):
Not a bad strategy, considering that none of the airports has the capacity to facilitate their future fleet.

A very costly strategy I might add! Three different hubs within 1 hour flight of eachother, if this is not insane given today's commercial realities I don't know what is. Just imagine how many personel will have to duplicated, how many catering units built, etc. to sustain 3 "hubs". I personally don't think McTeighe meant 3 hubs in the American or Europe sense of a hub, but more of a reference to a significant amount of flights at the mentioned airports along with regular aircraft layovers.

[Edited 2007-10-31 08:30:35]

[Edited 2007-10-31 08:35:54]
 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:55 pm

Quoting KL577 (Reply 4):
Is there a market for flights from LOS to DUB?



Quoting AC747 (Reply 6):
It seems that VK plan to run New Year flights and then guage the demand after that and possibly operate seasonal services to DUB

The short and easy access to LHR and LGW from DUB precludes any direct links between LOS and DUB. If there was a potential, Aer Lingus would have exploited it by now. There are larger populations of Nigerians in France, Italy, Holland/Belgium, Germany and Russia than Ireland.The big markets for VK is New York, Houston. Los Angeles, Chicago and Atlanta are potential seasonal markets for flights to LOS. VK and Arik also have to exploit Abuja and Port Harcourt as international gateways to Europe Middle East and Asia.. For example VK can overcome Emirates grip on the Lagos to Dubai route with a Abuja to Dubai service.
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:05 pm

Quoting Flitemax (Reply 24):
A very costly strategy I might add! Three different hubs within 1 hour flight of eachother, if this is not insane given today's commercial realities I don't know what is. Just imagine how many personel will have to duplicated, how many catering units built, etc. to sustain 3 "hubs". I personally don't think McTeighe meant 3 hubs in the American or Europe sense of a hub, but more of a reference to a significant amount of flights at the mentioned airports along with regular aircraft layovers.

Indeed, and given the already high operating costs, it doesn't make much sense. But indeed:

Quoting Alibo5NGN (Reply 25):
VK and Arik also have to exploit Abuja and Port Harcourt as international gateways to Europe Middle East and Asia.. For example VK can overcome Emirates grip on the Lagos to Dubai route with a Abuja to Dubai service.

Connecting in Lagos will remain a hassle for the time being, with two unconnected terminals and no organised transport system, and an international terminal which could use some upgrades. I have been pondering about this for some time, but the following routes should have some potential (for VK or Arik):

LOS-DXB-ABV-KAN-DXB-LOS
LOS-JED-ABV-KAN-DXB-LOS

ABV-LGW
ABV-JNB
 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:36 pm

Kabo Air is leasing former 747-251B N636US. That aircraft, a late-built 742, is from 1986 which makes it a youngster compared to what Kabo Air uses otherwise. Source: skyliner magazine
 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:26 pm

speaking of Kabo Air, I was pleasantly surprised to learn that they plan on resuming domestic scheduled flights after the 07/08 Hajj season. However fingers still crossed since they planned but failed several come-backs on the domestic routes. The moment I see a narrow-body in Kabo colors I just might believe it then.
 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:20 am

Quoting Flitemax (Reply 28):
speaking of Kabo Air, I was pleasantly surprised to learn that they plan on resuming domestic scheduled flights after the 07/08 Hajj season. However fingers still crossed since they planned but failed several come-backs on the domestic routes. The moment I see a narrow-body in Kabo colors I just might believe it then.

And they were rumoured to start using their route authorities to NBO and FCO, last year; that never materialized. The story here in Kano goes that nearly all the people who built the company with the late Alhaji Dan Kabo, left the company. That happened when the son who took over brought in his own friends, who had no experience in aviation. At that point everything started to go wrong to the point they stopped domestic services a few years back. Unless there is a drastic change in management, I don't see much happening.

On a side note, I learnt the Kano governer flew out on KLM a week ago to the United States for a number of business meetings. Could this have anything to do with the purchase of this 747  Confused ??
 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:20 am

Speaking of Kabo, here's another ghost from the past:

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Albarka Air Plc is set to resume operations in the first quarter of 2008 with a proposed capital base of N5bn and a fleet of new generation aircraft, Chairman of the company, General Buba Marwa (rtd) has said.

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A statement from the company said, towards this end, the company is in negotiation with foreign partners to wet lease three Boeing aircraft and get the airline back on air by February 2008.

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Recalling that the federal government raised the minimum capital for airlines from N20million to N500million for domestic and N2billion for international operations, the Chairman noted that the airline has gotten offers from some neighboring countries including Niger, Gambia and Chad to fly their flags on some routes.


http://dailytrust.com/index.php?opti...ontent&task=view&id=4050&Itemid=39
 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:37 pm

Quoting Flitemax (Reply 28):
I was pleasantly surprised to learn that they plan on resuming domestic scheduled flights



Quoting KL577 (Reply 30):
Albarka Air Plc is set to resume operations in the first quarter of 2008

I attach little value to these recurrent 'come back stories': Okada Air, ADC, Afrijet and Albarka have been making similar statements in the past months. The same goes for some announced start-ups: Rauyamah, Air Midwest, Med View, etc. I think it will be difficult for any new airline to establish itself in the domestic market with VK, AJ and W3 already there.

NIGAV seems to have passed without any media attention?

EDIT: Aero's Dash-8 has left the paint shop and will probably find its way to Nigeria soon.

Nicon's grounded B737 at Abuja Airport:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/218/475776785_1a2f8af071_b.jpg

[Edited 2007-11-04 05:50:21]
 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:58 pm

The 2 LOS-DUB charters:

2 charters - using LatCharter 767

19 DEC -- VK 299 LGW DUB 0750 0920 LOS
09JAN -- VK 298 LOS DUB 0555 0730 LGW

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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:34 pm

Quoting GLAGAZ (Reply 32):
The 2 LOS-DUB charters:

Thanks for that GLAGAZ.
I must post these times on the Irish thread - they'll be delighted with this info.
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:52 am

I have a feeling these are positioning flights. Perhaps some maintenance in Dublin is involved?
 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:32 pm

It will still take some time before Chanchangi will fly newer aircraft (four new B733's):

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Saturday, October 27, 2007

Chanchangi set to acquire four aircraft

The Managing Director, Chanchangi Airlines, Mr. Trevor Worthington, has said the airline is on the verge of purchasing four new Boeing 737-300 aircraft.

He told our correspondent in Lagos on Thursday that the airline had procured land in Abuja to build a hangar, adding that it was trying to phase out some of its old aircraft to make way for new generation planes. Worthington said the fleet renewal drive would also help the airline save cost, especially in its operations since some of its aircraft were undergoing repairs.

He further said, “Chanchangi has 10 aircraft, but we are going to phase out some of them. That is why people are surprised when they see only four of our aircraft in operation. We have phased out two Boeing 727 and they are not going for C-check. We in turn have not asked the Nigeria Civil Aviation Authority to give us an extension. Our fleet renewal plans are mostly for economic reasons. It makes economic sense because new generation aircraft consume less fuel and would enable us to concentrate more on our passengers and enable us serve them better.

Source: The Punch

[Edited 2007-11-05 12:37:20]
 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:55 pm

Quoting ENU (Reply 1):
VK will wet-lease a B767 from Flyglobespan for the winter

This deal seems to be cancelled.
 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Thu Nov 08, 2007 12:08 am

Source please? Pitty, would have been nice to see VK add some extra capacity (additional flights, charter flights, etc.) to boost its revenue base.
 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Thu Nov 08, 2007 3:46 am

Akwa Ibom releases N4.6 billion for aiport project

ABOUT N3 billion was released to contractors handling the construction of Ibom International Airport in Akwa Ibom State.Governor Godswill Akpabio disclosed this recently in Uyo during an interactive session with journalists.

"The airport project is on course and by April 2008, the airport's 3,600-metre runway will be ready," he said.

http://www.guardiannewsngr.com/business/article03
 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:08 am

Quoting Flitemax (Reply 37):

According to CH Aviation G-CEOD is now with Air India again, but some other internet sources are giving contradictory information. Anyway, I think it would be very expensive to wet-lease an aircraft for just two flights LOS-DUB as no other flights are announced. VK can operate the two flights with their current fleet.

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VIRGIN NIGERIA OFFERS SPECIAL CHARTER FLIGHT FROM DUBLIN.

Lagos, Nigeria: November 07, 2007: Virgin Nigeria will on 19 December 2007 offer a special inbound charter flight from Dublin, the Irish capital to Lagos Nigeria with the return leg scheduled for 8 January 2008. The proposed charter flight out of Dublin marked VK299 will be the first direct air service between the two nations by Virgin Nigeria and is coming on the heels of requests and overtures by the Nigerian community in Dublin to the airline to offer them a seamless and convenient means of transportation back home for the yuletide period..

Announcing the charter service, the Chief Operating Officer, Dr. Yemi Osindero said: "As a caring and dependable flag carrier of Nigeria, the special flight is a further proof of our innovative nature. Due to Nigeria's strong community presence in Ireland we decided to offer this special flight as our special holiday gift to the Nigerian community in Dublin to help encourage relations between both nations.

Source: http://www.virginnigeria.com/en/ng/press/pr2007-11-7.html
 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:47 pm

Quoting ENU (Reply 1):
Virgin Nigeria


- Still no official confirmation of the 10 EMB-170/190 order

It seems that it has been officially announced now in Dubai:
10 firm orders and 14 options!
 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:51 pm

Quoting KL577 (Reply 40):

Good news! No statement yet on Embraer's website. Can you provide a link with more information?
 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:56 pm

It's announced by Panam_DC10 in the thread "Dubai 2007: other manufacturers" (somehow I can't copy the link here).

Indeed I don't see any info yet on Embraer's website.
 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Sun Nov 11, 2007 1:02 pm

Thanks. The announcement was already mentioned here. I'm just very keen on more information.

Good to see that VK can make such a big order, especially the 14 options!

I'm somehow still expecting an announcement from Arik too. Also, when will W3 receive the first Q400's?
 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Sun Nov 11, 2007 1:12 pm

First order for Dana Air:

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Dana Group of Nigeria orders Bombardier Learjet 45 XR and Challenger 605 jets. Bombardier Aerospace today announced that Dana Group of Lagos, Nigeria, has placed orders for a super light Learjet 45 XR aircraft and a new widebody Challenger 605 jet.

Delivery of the versatile, high-performance Learjet 45 XR business jet, which is particularly well suited to flight conditions in Africa, is scheduled for March 2008. The sought-after Challenger 605 jet, which entered service in January 2007, will fly intercontinental missions and is scheduled to be delivered in 2010.

Source: http://www.ameinfo.com/137899.html


I wonder if they will make an order for their passenger operations too.
 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Sun Nov 11, 2007 1:19 pm

More info:

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DUBAI, Nov 11 - Brazil's Embraer has agreed to sell 10 aircraft to Virgin Nigeria in a deal that could be worth $811 million, the planemaker said on Sunday.

Virgin Nigeria agreed to buy seven Embraer 170 aircraft and three 190s, it said in a statement at the Dubai Airshow.

The deal gives the airline the option to buy six more 190s and purchase rights for eight 190 and 195 aircraft, it said.

The deal would be worth $811 million if all options were exercised, Embraer said.

Source: http://sg.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/200711...irshow-embraer-virgin-7318940.html
 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Sun Nov 11, 2007 4:33 pm

It's on the Embraer website as well, with some more info:

http://www.embraer.com.br/institucio...-VPC-Virgin_Nigeria_EJets-I-07.pdf

Quote:

Embraer has signed the growing Virgin Nigeria airlines for eight EMBRAER 170 and two
EMBRAER 190 aircraft, all Advanced Range (AR) versions.

....

First delivery to Virgin Nigeria is scheduled for September 2008, and the airline intends to
deploy the EMBRAER 170 on its growing domestic network, rightsizing some of the routes
currently operated by older narrowbody jets and replacing turboprops on its strategic
petroleum routes, such as Lagos-Port Harcourt, due to the outstanding airfield performance of
the aircraft. The EMBRAER 190 will be deployed in its regional and international markets.
With their advanced range capabilities, common type rating, and training and parts
commonality, both aircraft will bring more flexibility to the entire network


 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Sun Nov 11, 2007 11:48 pm

Interesting! All VK Embraer seats will be equipped with Thales IFE digital system. First class seats in both a/c types will also feature laptop power outlets!

This will surely usher in a new era of international-standard competition on the local routes. Watch out Arik, VK might be a force to be reckoned with afterall.
 
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:13 am

Quoting Flitemax (Reply 47):
Watch out Arik, VK might be a force to be reckoned with afterall.

If VK can get pilots. Are they still having the pilot shortage that they were a few months back?
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RE: Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 6

Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:19 am

Quoting DL777LAX (Reply 48):
If VK can get pilots. Are they still having the pilot shortage that they were a few months back?

Yes their pilot shortage problem is ongoing, and their flight crew are stretched to the limit. It's possible that Embraer will provide flight crew initially until VK can have its inhouse certified E-Jet pilots.