nkops
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NK Dropping ACY-LAS

Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:39 pm

According to our schedule, NK will stop the ACY-LAS n/s on Jan 8th.

I'm hoping it's only seasonal as that flight has done very well, but I don't know if it is or not.

I don't know all the numbers, but I believe LF was somewhere around 89% for the month of Sept. (I know LF isn't everything)!!

Hopefully it'll return at some point.
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RL757PVD
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RE: NK Dropping ACY-LAS

Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:08 pm

Outside of FLL-Caribean flying, they cant seem to stick with something for more than 6 months, so im not suprised...
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nkops
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RE: NK Dropping ACY-LAS

Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:01 pm

Actually, we were thinking they were discontinuing so they can use the a/c for a South America market. We actually haven't had a new a/c delivered in a while!!
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MSYtristar
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RE: NK Dropping ACY-LAS

Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:09 pm

Well, I called this one. It just didn't seem like a route which would last for the long term. Kudos for them trying it out, I guess.
 
MAH4546
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RE: NK Dropping ACY-LAS

Mon Oct 29, 2007 4:21 pm

Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 1):
Outside of FLL-Caribean flying, they cant seem to stick with something for more than 6 months, so im not suprised...

Really? So ATL-LAS, BOS-MYR, ATL-MCO, and FLL-LIM can't stick around?

They are about to announce about a dozen new destinations from FLL in the coming months, and need aircraft to focus on FLL.
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RL757PVD
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RE: NK Dropping ACY-LAS

Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:15 pm

Outside of FLL INTL flying, the list of what has stayed is much shorter than the list of what has gone (system wide)

After they left PVD, where they packed the planes in for FLL RSW (if you doubt it, look at Q1 O&D#'s)

They added:

ACY-SJU - gone
ACY-LAS - going
BOS-FLL n/s - pulled before it even started
BOS-DTW - gone

They walked away from full flights and replaced them with dismal failures, granted there will be a laprse in service, but hopefully a real airline like FL or B6 will recoup the low hanging fruit vacated in the PVD-South Florida market sometime in 2008.
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PVD757
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RE: NK Dropping ACY-LAS

Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:17 pm

I think BOS-FLL nonstop did operate for a few months, but it is indeed gone or going very soon. 1X BOS-MYR-FLL is all that remains of NK in new England right now...
 
MAH4546
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RE: NK Dropping ACY-LAS

Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:39 pm

Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 5):
ACY-SJU - gone

Seasonal, no idea if it will return though.

Quoting PVD757 (Reply 6):
I think BOS-FLL nonstop did operate for a few months,

Never launched.

Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 5):
After they left PVD, where they packed the planes in for FLL RSW (if you doubt it, look at Q1 O&D#'s)

The Providence market was a money loser for Spirit, regardless of packed planes.

[Edited 2007-10-29 12:05:27]
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nkops
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RE: NK Dropping ACY-LAS

Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:48 pm

Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 5):
ACY-SJU - gone

That one I can honestly say was a complete failure and we will never see that again.

Quoting PVD757 (Reply 6):
I think BOS-FLL nonstop did operate for a few months

It was in the sked. but never happened.

Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 5):
BOS-DTW - gone

DTW is somewhat of an enigma... DTW has lost PVD,BOS, and DCA... and ACY stops Nov. 14th (that is always seasonal though). You would think they would be decent yield markets (especially BOS and DCA)
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RE: NK Dropping ACY-LAS

Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:31 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 4):
Really? So ATL-LAS, BOS-MYR, ATL-MCO, and FLL-LIM can't stick around?

The fact that they've carved out a nice little niche for themselves here @ ATL is a bit surprising, especially competing against DL and FL.

On a side note, I noticed that US/HP is about to add another ATL-LAS nonstop as well (I was perusing some flight options for a trip to LAS in April, and two nonstop flights were available where in the past there was only one.), so there's obvious enough demand for four airlines.
 
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RE: NK Dropping ACY-LAS

Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:52 pm

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 9):
The fact that they've carved out a nice little niche for themselves here @ ATL is a bit surprising, especially competing against DL and FL.

I was surprised by that, too. I thought Dallas would be where they were more successful, but it was the complete opposite. They've done great at Atlanta. I believe during peak winter last year, FLL-ATL had three dailies.
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RE: NK Dropping ACY-LAS

Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:59 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 10):
I believe during peak winter last year, FLL-ATL had three dailies.

I wouldn't be surprised if it comes back. I know for a couple of years (mainly the few years prior to the 73Gs joining the fleet), FL used to bring in Miami Air or TransMerdian in to give some addition uplift on the ATL-FLL-ATL during the peak winter season.