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Airliners At U.S. Airshows?

Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:35 pm

I was wondering: Are any air shows in the U.S. in which airliners participate in fly-bys and such?
I always see pictures of airliners doing low passes and fly-bys at air shows in other countries, but I cant think of any from the U.S., and of the several air shows I have been to I have never seen an airliner as one of the planes displayed. Is it the case that either there isn't as much interest in commercial airliners in the U.S., are there other regulations why it may not be permitted, or not in certain areas, or is it just chance that I have never seen an airliner as part of an air show in the U.S.?
 
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RE: Airliners At U.S. Airshows?

Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:47 pm

Quoting Adam42185 (Thread starter):
Is it the case that either there isn't as much interest in commercial airliners in the U.S., are there other regulations why it may not be permitted, or not in certain areas, or is it just chance that I have never seen an airliner as part of an air show in the U.S.?

Well, I think you'll find it's because the airshows you are seeing these airliners doing fly-bys at, are predominantly sales shows to sell aircraft and such ... not a pure public airshow. Examples such as Farnborough, Paris, and Dubai, do not really have a comparable equivalent in the USA. You'll see Boeing or Airbus doing fly-by's in the USA, if they think they'll sell one by doing it.


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RE: Airliners At U.S. Airshows?

Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:04 pm

Quoting Adam42185 (Thread starter):
and of the several air shows I have been to I have never seen an airliner as one of the planes displayed.

The closest I've seen, is a Fedex 727 open for the public to walk through...as a display...never a fly-by though, nor an airliner, non-cargo on display.

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RE: Airliners At U.S. Airshows?

Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:10 pm

Last weekend American Eagle had an ERJ-145 on static display at the Fort Worth Alliance Airshow, and they were letting people into the cockpit. It was very cool to see kids eyes lighting up as they sat in the flight deck!

I remember the REALLY old days when I was a kid, seeing Republic MD80's and United 727's buzzing airshows. As a kid, I longed to be in the cockpit of one of those jetliners much more than a fighter jet, and it was a thrill to see!
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Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:39 pm

World Airways, Delta, and ASA have been doing stuff at the Great Georgia Air Show down @ FFC for a number of years now.


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RE: Airliners At U.S. Airshows?

Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:44 pm

Quoting AndrewUber (Reply 3):
Last weekend American Eagle had an ERJ-145 on static display at the Fort Worth Alliance Airshow

I walked through it and asked the pilot how a normal day is. I also asked how long the flight from DFW to AFW was, he said 4 minutes at 297 kts. That was cool. American had a 767 scheduled, but it never showed up. There was a FedEx A300 open to walk through also.
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RE: Airliners At U.S. Airshows?

Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:48 pm

There was a Midwest Connect 328 Jet at EAA's yearly airshow in Oshkosh, Wisconsin a few years back. I grabbed a picture before it departed.

328 Jet

A couple of years before that, also at EAA, there was an Air Atlanta Icelandic 747-300 parked on display at the Aero Shell Square. That was the first and only time I have ever been inside a widebody aircraft. My God, that thing was so huge, inside and out. It was just row after row of seats, and then the upstairs too! The spiral stair case was very cool. My family and I were able to walk underneath the wing and behold the size of the engines! Shnikees! Here is a picture that I did not take. I found it at the EAA website; it shows the plane at EAA.

747-300

Quoting AndrewUber (Reply 3):
It was very cool to see kids eyes lighting up as they sat in the flight deck!

You might actually be remembering me when I poked my head in the 747's cockpit! Big grin

And then the Concorde that crashed in Paris was on its way to JFK and then EAA.

Can anyone confirm that NW brought a CRJ to EAA one year?
 
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RE: Airliners At U.S. Airshows?

Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:50 pm

The US doesn't have a single huge airshow to attract the airlines and large jets. Airshows in the United States usually attract the public. The number one performer is usually the US military because they go after the general public to recruit.

You will see civilian planes at airshows. Stunt pilots enjoy flying their planes at shows and showing them off. Also FedEx is a common participant of airshows. I've been to multiple shows where they had a 727 Freighter on display.
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RE: Airliners At U.S. Airshows?

Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:55 pm

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 1):
are predominantly sales shows to sell aircraft and such ... not a pure public airshow

this makes a lot of sense to me as a reason, kind of a "duh" moment. thanks for the insight. Now if we could just get a big sales based air show in the U.S..... but it definitely makes sense why they would put on the display when sales are on the line and not when they're just public because of how expensive it is. I need to get to one of those air shows across the pond.
 
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RE: Airliners At U.S. Airshows?

Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:57 pm

Well, at the Air & Sea Show in Ft. Lauderdale, AA usually sends one of their aircraft to do a fly-by. I've seen 777s and 757s.
 
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Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:32 pm

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RE: Airliners At U.S. Airshows?

Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:12 am

Quoting Adam42185 (Thread starter):
I was wondering: Are any air shows in the U.S. in which airliners participate in fly-bys and such?

Canadian did a fly-by with a 747-400 at the Abbotsford Airshow years ago...that's not the U.S. but it's darn close.

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RE: Airliners At U.S. Airshows?

Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:42 am

AA did a flyby with a 757-200 in formation with a DC-3 at this year's Chicago Air & Water show just before the show started...
 
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RE: Airliners At U.S. Airshows?

Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:28 am

It does happen from time to time, but airliners don't make money sitting on the ground fir a static display or doing fly-by's... they loose money... lots of money and airlines hate to loose money
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Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:40 am

I was lucky enough to be in a UA 727-200 fly by when UA pulled out of LAN in April of 86. I was on the last UA
out of town. We took off toward the west on 28L, circled and the pilot annouced what was to happen. We flew a runway heading on runway 24 at apx 500 feet....its was a night flight at apx 9pm....bound for ORD.
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RE: Airliners At U.S. Airshows?

Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:43 am

Wings Over Pittsburgh usually has a FedEx A300 or A310 come in for a static display. You can walk inside and see the cargo areas and the flight deck. That's about it.
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RE: Airliners At U.S. Airshows?

Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:44 am

Quoting Tdscanuck (Reply 11):
Canadian did a fly-by with a 747-400 at the Abbotsford Airshow years ago...that's not the U.S. but it's darn close.

And a DC-10-30 one year.


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RE: Airliners At U.S. Airshows?

Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:46 am

Quoting Adam42185 (Thread starter):
and of the several air shows I have been to I have never seen an airliner as one of the planes displayed.

A nice surprise fly by of a former airliner, John Travolta's Boeing 707-138C N707JT at the 2006 Reno Air Races.



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RE: Airliners At U.S. Airshows?

Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:27 am

Quoting Ready5bird (Reply 17):
A nice surprise fly by of a former airliner, John Travolta's Boeing 707-138C N707JT at the 2006 Reno Air Races.

Minor correction -- 707-138B. Only the 707-320 had a C model, designating the combi or freighter version with main-deck cargo door.
 
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RE: Airliners At U.S. Airshows?

Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:11 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 18):
Minor correction -- 707-138B. Only the 707-320 had a C model, designating the combi or freighter version with main-deck cargo door.

Thanks Viscount724...learn something new everyday.
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RE: Airliners At U.S. Airshows?

Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:30 pm

It's a pity you guys don't get to see events like this!

PS I hope the links to the thumbnails work - first time I'm doing it!
 
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RE: Airliners At U.S. Airshows?

Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:46 pm

Quoting Flymad (Reply 21):
It's a pity you guys don't get to see events like this!

PS I hope the links to the thumbnails work - first time I'm doing it!

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Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:01 pm

Northwest Orient flew a Boeing 747 at the 1986 Oshkosh, WI Airshow.



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RE: Airliners At U.S. Airshows?

Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:14 pm

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 1):
the airshows you are seeing these airliners doing fly-bys at, are predominantly sales shows to sell aircraft

Not entirely true....



Quite fitting that this is the same 742 which is now parked at Rand, which is where this airshow was.
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RE: Airliners At U.S. Airshows?

Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:22 pm

Quoting Andz (Reply 24):
Not entirely true....

Well, they are 'predominantly sales shows to sell aircraft'. I didn't say the only reason  Wink

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RE: Airliners At U.S. Airshows?

Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:39 pm

At the BKL Labor Day weekend show, CO normally sends a 738 as a static display. You can do a walk though, sit in the cockpit, they open up the engine cowling, let you go into the main gear wheel wells, etc. Even the millitary aviotion guy I went with was impressed. FedEx also had an A300. What was great about that dispaly this year was that is was the last A300 off the line, N692FE.
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RE: Airliners At U.S. Airshows?

Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:43 pm

Delta brought N610DL (Pink plane) to the Dayton Air Show this year. There have also been FX 727s the last 3 years at least.
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RE: Airliners At U.S. Airshows?

Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:54 pm

FedEx usually brings something to Oceana every year - It was a 727 last time I went.
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RE: Airliners At U.S. Airshows?

Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:13 pm

A UA 737-500 did a fly-by at the 1994 Reno Air Races.
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RE: Airliners At U.S. Airshows?

Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:34 pm

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 7):
Also FedEx is a common participant of airshows. I've been to multiple shows where they had a 727 Freighter on display



Quoting PITops (Reply 15):
Wings Over Pittsburgh usually has a FedEx A300 or A310 come in for a static display.



Quoting DeltaRules (Reply 27):
Dayton Air Show this year. There have also been FX 727s the last 3 years



Quoting Nucsh (Reply 28):
FedEx usually brings something to Oceana every year - It was a 727 last time I went

As a rule they bring whatever is in the city serviced by fedex. They may have to ferry it over to the airshow arpt but that's about it. They did do a flyby in a 727 one yr at Oshkosh. This yr at the memphis airshow they had a 727, Airbus and a C-208.
 
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RE: Airliners At U.S. Airshows?

Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:36 pm

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 9):
Well, at the Air & Sea Show in Ft. Lauderdale, AA usually sends one of their aircraft to do a fly-by. I've seen 777s and 757s.

I remember watching on TV on ESPN about the FLL show, and distinctly remember seeing an SAA 747....That was around the time that they were serving FLL (I don't know if they still do)

Quoting Andz (Reply 24):

Not entirely true....

Is that it?...Is that the 74 flying around FLL?


The closest thing i've seen to this type of demonstration was just recently at the Gathering of the Mustangs and Legends...on the day before the airshow, on take off from LCK, a FedEX MD-11 Did Low 'S-turns' to show off a bit on departure, while everything else was coming in.
 
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RE: Airliners At U.S. Airshows?

Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:31 pm

Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 31):
Is that it?...Is that the 74 flying around FLL?

If by "is that it?" you mean the only thing that SAA has done then no, ask anyone who was at Farnborough a couple of years ago (744), or at the rugby world cup final in 1995 (743) or at Virginia air show in Durban a few years ago (743).

And not at FLL either, this was at Rand in Johannesburg.
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