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Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:18 pm

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/finklejag/MVC-007L.jpg?t=1194131514

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/finklejag/MVC-005L.jpg?t=1194131752

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/finklejag/MVC-004L.jpg?t=1194131802

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/finklejag/MVC-003L.jpg?t=1194131834

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/finklejag/MVC-001L.jpg?t=1194131861
 
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:19 pm

What city is this in? I know you're in Portland.... but this doesn't look like PDX to me.
 
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:21 pm

Is this the first UA 757 with winglets? Sorry, I know others may feel differently, but the winglets just mean that UA is going to start using this as transatlantic planes, something of which I want no part of in any airlines, transatlantic on a 757.

BTW, are there any pics of the blended winglets for the 767 yet? What is the progress of those? Now that will be one sexy looking airplane. I wish they would have come up with them for the 777, even sexier!

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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:32 pm

Nice to see that they went with something other than a single color on the winglets (With or without a logo or website address on them as well). These winglets are the best looking ones an airline had put on a 757 to date. In some ways, it almost looks like a JetBlue tail pattern.
 
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:43 pm

Gorgeous winglets. Good marketing for p.s. Customers think planes with winglets are "new" and "modern."

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 2):
omething of which I want no part of in any airlines, transatlantic on a 757.

I just don't get this. If you're flying TATL on a 757 it's almost certainly because your market couldn't support a larger aircraft. You would happily fly a six-hour transcon on a 757, but to avoid an eight-hour TATL flight on a 757, you would fly to a larger airport and transfer, adding extra hours and hassle... when the economy seat in the 757 is the same economy seat that you will occupy in any other a/c?  confused   boggled 
 
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:46 pm

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 3):
These winglets are the best looking ones an airline had put on a 757 to date.

Doubt that.

They are as boring as the UA livery. At least give us a company name or web address like WN or AA.

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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:50 pm

Quoting SeaBosDca (Reply 4):
just don't get this. If you're flying TATL on a 757 it's almost certainly because your market couldn't support a larger aircraft. You would happily fly a six-hour transcon on a 757, but to avoid an eight-hour TATL flight on a 757, you would fly to a larger airport and transfer, adding extra hours and hassle... when the economy seat in the 757 is the same economy seat that you will occupy in any other a/c?

you know what, staying in a 777 or a any other double aisle airplane is much better than staying in a low ceiling tight single aisle 757 on transatlantic
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:59 pm

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 2):
Is this the first UA 757 with winglets? Sorry, I know others may feel differently, but the winglets just mean that UA is going to start using this as transatlantic planes, something of which I want no part of in any airlines, transatlantic on a 757.

Yes, I think it is the first and no, there are no plans to run a 757 TATL. Right now, the only 757's that are getting winglets are the ETOPS Hawaii birds and the P.S. 757's.

Quoting FXramper (Reply 5):


They are as boring as the UA livery. At least give us a company name or web address like WN or AA.

Because that Fedex livery is one that makes everyone stand up and take notice!  Yeah sure " Oohhh, lokkee at me. I've got a purple tail (said in Homer Simpson's voice)".
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:05 am

Quoting Tozairport (Reply 7):
Yes, I think it is the first and no, there are no plans to run a 757 TATL. Right now, the only 757's that are getting winglets are the ETOPS Hawaii birds and the P.S. 757's.

Thats good to hear, I am another one I am afraid he only wants to see widebodies over the pond, especially UA's metal.
 
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:07 am

Yeah! Those look great! I guess the crowd is probably split on colors v.s. websites/logos, but I much prefer color schemes--text on winglets looks really tacky to me. Nice to see all the big U.S. carriers jumping on the winglet wagon with their 757s...really makes the plane look slick!
 
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:12 am

Were is UA going to take those 75's to?
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:12 am

All I'm saying is that if I want to fly to say, Dusseldorf, I would much rather fly an AA 777 to LHR and connect onward with BA or something. I usually plan MY trips around the widebody long flights rather than worrying about the fastest way to get there. Other people either don't have that option, or don't care. Just expressing my wishes on transatlantic flights.

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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:17 am

To whom has the winglet retrofit work been assigned? Is it somewhere in the US or is it at Ameco Beijing?
Btw. (off topic) is UA's SFO MOC still operational?
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:43 am

Quoting RampRat74 (Thread starter):

Where were these pics taken? And you might want to copyright your work, too.

Quoting Tozairport (Reply 7):
P.S. 757's.

What is a 'P.S. 757'??  Confused
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:09 am

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 13):
What is a 'P.S. 757'??

"Premium Service" birds that are specially configured with 12 first class seats, 26 business class, and 72 economy plus seats. They only fly SFO-JFK and LAX-JFK. The first and business seats are upgraded over their mainline domestic counterparts, and the service is enhanced. Really, a very nice ride!

Quoting Super80DFW (Reply 10):
Were is UA going to take those 75's to?

SFO and LAX to JFK (PS), KOA, LIH, OGG, and HNL.
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:12 am

My brother who works on the ramp in DEN emailed these to me. So most of the United ramp in Denver has already seen these. They were taken in GSO.
 
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:13 am

A P.S. 757 is the plane UA uses on JFL-LAX and JFK-SFO, specially configured 757s with international style F and C class and only Y+ instead of regular Y class.
 
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:17 am

One more

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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:19 am

Makes me wonder why UA didn't use the tuilp logo for the winglets. That would have been much better looking. But then again, I guess UA followed suit from AS to keep it modern looking....
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:44 am

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 18):
Makes me wonder why UA didn't use the tuilp logo for the winglets. That would have been much better looking. But then again, I guess UA followed suit from AS to keep it modern looking....

Looking at the last pic, the winglet is a lot taller and more slender, and the tulip would look weird, much in the same way SAA's 737-800 winglets look odd. The logo just doesn't look right on the winglet.
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:45 am

Quoting FXramper (Reply 5):
At least give us a company name or web address like WN or AA.

In case you forget www.united.com?

Haha, I can't stand it how they do that. I don't want to ride on a flying bill board.
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:54 am

Quoting Georgebush (Reply 20):
Quoting FXramper (Reply 5):
At least give us a company name or web address like WN or AA.

In case you forget www.united.com?

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c291/ringo3727/738winglet-2.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c291/ringo3727/738winglet-4.jpg

It just looks classy versus blue and white paint.

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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:57 am

the UAL winglet looks rather good, great compared to the rest of the livery IMO.
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:05 am

The UA 757 winglets look hip and I like the blue-white stripe style. It's neither a repeat of the tulip nor a text tag for the website.
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:13 am

Quoting SparkingWave (Reply 23):
The UA 757 winglets look hip and I like the blue-white stripe style. It's neither a repeat of the tulip nor a text tag for the website.

They already decided on this design for their 744 winglet so its consistent to keep it.
 
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:25 am

Quoting FXramper (Reply 21):

OHHHH!!! Just goooooooooooooorgeous!!!!!!!! I love the AA winglets a lot!!!!!!!!!
The UA one is not boring, the lines look real classy! I hope they use it on p.s.
No, just because you put winglets on an older plane, the plane will still be old, but just improves its aerodynamic efficiency. The shots of the UA 757WL are really nice too.

In terms of TATL, i think UA may be losing a foothold there. Now, correct me if I'm wrong. I personally would like to see UA go head on with NW and offer 757WL on intra-Asian routes as NW has been doing on routes like NRT-CAN. It will make it more competitive. They could also offer NRT-MFM (if they ever get landing rights to Macau as an alternative to HKG). Same length as a ORD-SEA, ORD-LAX, IAD-DEN (almost, maybe a bit farther). NRT-MNL, NRT-TPE, KHH, ICN. I'm just saying these are all possibilities to go head on with NW at NRT for the competition. The 757WL could be better utilized here.
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:47 am

Quoting SeaBosDca (Reply 4):
You would happily fly a six-hour transcon on a 757,

I certainly am never happy to fly a 757 (or 737) transcon, but I guess I got spoiled from all those transcons I took in the 70s, 80s and 90s on widebodies.

Back to the topic at hand... yeah, the UA 757 winglets look very cool - nice job on getting us these pics so quickly!
 
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:22 am

Quoting FXramper (Reply 21):
It just looks classy versus blue and white paint.

Matter of opinion I suppose, but I find web addresses on winglets to look horribly cheap. Company names too. The only reason WN's look decent is because it's the same design as the tail.

UA could have put the tulip design on the winglets like they have on the tail, but they might not have fit well, so I don't have a problem with the lines.

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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:37 am

Interesting. Something must have gone wrong/unexpected with the installation. This aircraft was supposed to be out of the shop and in service back on Oct 5th. This looks like almost a month delay. Of course it's better to get it right than the alternatives. Stuff happens.

And yes, my date is not 'rumor' but fact straight from the SFO MX tour where there was lengthly discussion regarding the winglets. As outlined above - they will only be doing the PS & ETOPS Hawaii birds. The only reason they are doing them is fuel savings - they aren't looking to open any new city pairs with them.
 
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:14 am

First of all, according to the investors conferecne call, UA has no plans to use these planes on new routes and the subset of 757's getting this upgrade only flies to Hawaii or JFK-SFO/LAX so they can be used on these routes to save lots of fuel. However, they are not going to be sent overseas.
Also, I understand that everyone has their own opinions but from a marketing perspective, it is probably more tacky to advertise a website on your plane that it is to just have simple lines. That doesn't mean that the AA winglets don't look good but when you are saying that they make the winglets look more classier, that is the opposite, they actually make AA seem more low-costy and less legacy/premium.
 
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:26 am

as far as winglets go, too bad they couldn't have developed an A330/340 or 747-400 style winglet for the 737/757/767, those tall thin one like they have on the 737s just don't do anything for me.

Second, what's the point of even putting on the winglets if UA isn't planning to use them across the pond? they don't need the extra range the winglets provide, since all of UA's missions are well within the range of the 757 as it is.

On the issue of flying 757s across the pond, i'm in full agreement with Hamad and UAL747, my logic is this in terms of why i'd never feel comfortable flying the 757 transat, on my last trip across the pond, on an NW A330, we had a 130 mile an hour tail wind, that tail wind generated a significant amount of turbulance, as tail winds always do, if i have to spend eight hours in a metal tube with at least some of that time spent enduring that turbulence, and it can be heavy, i'd rather have more metal around and under me than less, because, i as the passenger, will feel the effects of the turbulence less. in my mind, when it comes down to crossing any large body of water, be it the Atlantic or the pacific, heavier=a more comfortable ride in turbulence, therefore heavier is better IMO. If i have a choice between flying a 757 nonstop, or making a connection to get onto a widebody, i'll take the connection every time. then again, i'm odd.
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:00 am

Quoting FXramper (Reply 5):
They are as boring as the UA livery. At least give us a company name or web address like WN or AA.

The UA livery is simple and elegant...purely classic lines. And personally, I much prefer a winglet that doesn't serve as a marketing gimmick/billboard. But that's just me...never really liked tacky things.
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:09 am

Quoting FXramper (Reply 5):
They are as boring as the UA livery. At least give us a company name or web address like WN or AA.

I think the UA livery is great, its colorful but still classy. And as for a name on the winglet, its pretty small, UA would fit but make it look tacky, look at the picture above of AA's winglet on their 767 with their name, and to make it worse they put on the dreaded .com which just turned it into a tack low cost impression. Easy and simplistic is the best, but UA does one better with the different stripes to match the rest of the plane
 
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:10 am

She looks GREAT!!! Cant wait for her to come to LAX. I like the colors and glad they didn't put any more advertisement items on the winglet. WE ALL KNOW THE WEBSITE!!!
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:49 am

Isn't UA due for a livery change soon? Or will Delta change theirs again first?
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:49 am

Quoting Vanguard737 (Reply 31):
The UA livery is simple and elegant



Quoting DL767captain (Reply 32):
I think the UA livery is great

Bah, bring back battleship gray please.

 yes 

The UA winglets look like they belong on a B6 a/c.

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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:49 am

Quoting NorthstarBoy (Reply 30):
Second, what's the point of even putting on the winglets if UA isn't planning to use them across the pond? they don't need the extra range the winglets provide, since all of UA's missions are well within the range of the 757 as it is.

Fuel savings. Winglets either let you go further on the same amount of fuel, or use less fuel to go the same distance. UA has chosen them for the latter option.

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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:59 am

Quoting N62NA (Reply 26):
I certainly am never happy to fly a 757 (or 737) transcon, but I guess I got spoiled from all those transcons I took in the 70s, 80s and 90s on widebodies

I agree with you there, if it was up to me, every flight across the pond or the USA would be on a double-aisle. However, i must add that i recently flew transcon on a DL 737-800 and never once found it to be "un-fitting" of the route. (Granted, I did see an ex-song 757 at the gate next to us when leaving LAX and wished i was on that metal, but i digress). Transatlantic, however, i feel is a completely different kettle of fish. I have no idea why, but flying across the pond in a single-aisle just doesn't seem right...even though its often almost the same flight time as a transcon. I have done this once, on a AA 757 and let me tell you....well, you dont want to know; Horrible. Regardless of the carrier, an international flight just doesn't seem the same unless your on a big jet. Strange.

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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:13 am

Quoting NorthstarBoy (Reply 30):
as far as winglets go, too bad they couldn't have developed an A330/340 or 747-400 style winglet for the 737/757/767, those tall thin one like they have on the 737s just don't do anything for me.

To be blunt, I don't think the engineers or the airlines really gave a damn if it "does anything for you". This was about greater efficiency and improving the bottom line, not some inane fashion contest sponsored by a bunch of travel agents and other armchair CEO's.
 
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:13 am

Quoting NorthstarBoy (Reply 30):
as far as winglets go, too bad they couldn't have developed an A330/340 or 747-400 style winglet for the 737/757/767, those tall thin one like they have on the 737s just don't do anything for me.

It would have been too bad, because the A340 style is less efficient. Probably why they didn't ask you, and asked their engineers.
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:14 am

Quoting Super80DFW (Reply 10):
Were is UA going to take those 75's to?

Fleet nums 57XX (the PS-transcon birds) and 55XX (ETOPS) are scheduled to get winglets. Most likely the 54XX and 56XX birds will not get the winglets.
 
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:28 am

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 40):
Fleet nums 57XX (the PS-transcon birds) and 55XX (ETOPS) are scheduled to get winglets. Most likely the 54XX and 56XX birds will not get the winglets.

So
54XX:
55XX: ETOPS
56XX:
57XX: P.S.

What are the 54XX & 56XX?
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:32 am

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 3):
In some ways, it almost looks like a JetBlue tail pattern.



Quoting FXramper (Reply 35):
The UA winglets look like they belong on a B6 a/c.

N503JB comes to mind..
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:22 am

Quoting Dalb777 (Reply 41):
What are the 54XX & 56XX?

54XX are the standard birds, 56XX are the Extended Overwater. The 56XX's have the liferafts and lifevests on board, but none of the additional ETOPS equipment like the additional radios, HMG, etc etc. The 56XX's are most typically used on the Caribbean, whereas the 55XX's are used on Hawaii.
 
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:02 am

Quoting Daron4000 (Reply 29):
That doesn't mean that the AA winglets don't look good but when you are saying that they make the winglets look more classier, that is the opposite, they actually make AA seem more low-costy and less legacy/premium.

Can I just say that from over the pond here in the UK, you would never see BA.com on winglets of any BA plaines as I am sure they would feel and rightly so that they would then fall into the category of LCC's. Legacies should avoid it as well!
 
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:43 am

Quoting FXramper (Reply 21):
It just looks classy versus blue and white paint.

AA can get away with it because they have a short web address. UA could never get their website onto a winglet and have the paint job still look classy.

Quoting SJC4Me (Reply 34):
Isn't UA due for a livery change soon?

You must be kidding.
 
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:49 am

Quoting SJC4Me (Reply 34):
Isn't UA due for a livery change soon?

those guys cant even seem to get 1/3 of their fleet painted in the NC yet  grumpy 
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:49 am

This plane is now back in revenue service. It was ferried Friday GSO-JFK. On Saturday it operated Flt. 25 JFK-LAX and Flt. 28 LAX-JFK
 
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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:52 am

Oh come on people! Widebody, narrowbody..... the same seat, who cares about one aisle or two aisles? You sit, you drink, you read a book, drink again, you watch a movie, drink again and sleep... that can all be done sitting. What I hate is people standing in the aisles the whole time.

I flew the CO 757 to EWR from AMS and the UA 777 to IAD, and once you sit and are airborne there is no way you can tell the difference in comfort.

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RE: Pics Of UA 757 With Winglets

Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:34 am

Quoting Fly2LAX (Reply 48):
This plane is now back in revenue service. It was ferried Friday GSO-JFK. On Saturday it operated Flt. 25 JFK-LAX and Flt. 28 LAX-JFK

I saw this plane at LAX yesterday while taxiing to gate 60 on a CO flight from IAH. It looked very nice. But the CO 738 with winglets I was riding in, with the CO livery, I think still looks better.
I am extraordinarily patient, provided I get my own way in the end.