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China Beyond Beijing And Shanghai

Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:06 pm

In 2010, the U.S. and China intend to begin negotiations on an open skies agreement, which would likely provide unlimited access to all Chinese destinations, including the big three cities. In the meantime, under the existing pact, cities in 22 provinces are already covered.

Additionally, seven weekly frequencies (one daily flight) are currently available to cities in seven other provinces -- Fujian, Guangdong (except Guangzhou), Hebei, Jiangsu, Shandong, Tianjin and Zhejiang. In 2008, an additional seven weekly frequencies will become available for these seven provinces
The access to China will only improve. The Chinese intend to build approximately three dozen new airports over the next five to 10 years. And airlines are eagerly awaiting the arrival of the Boeing 787, a long-range airplane with relatively low operating costs that is suitable for thinner markets.

So far, the focus has been almost exclusively on Beijing and Shanghai. By 2009, the six legacy carriers will offer 14 flights to the two cities, assuming tentative route awards are confirmed.
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RE: China Beyond Beijing And Shanghai

Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:43 am

Well you can be sure that any movement to the other cities will be done with the 787 and the first to probably enter the market will be NW, UA and CO. But first UA would have to purchase the 787. The other option is for NA and UA to use their 5th freedom rights from Japan to start these flights using smaller aircraft and then when things seem to be good, move to a non-stop.

China has a lot of potential especially if an airline can make a name for themselves flying to the interior as well as the main cities.
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RE: China Beyond Beijing And Shanghai

Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:22 am

You have to wonder when some of the larger cities like CKG (which has a population equal to roughly HKG and CAN combined) and CTU will get more international flights outside of Asia. Obviously these aren't the government or financial centers that PEK and PVG are, but there's huge numbers of people there.

Once PEK and PVG have more complete international service, I'd expect CAN to bulk up on international flights as it's a manufacturing center, with a very nice new airport, then perhaps some of these other cities that have less international prominence.

Also interesting will be to see if some of the smaller cities/provinces can develop more international tourism beyond what you currently see. For example, KMG (Kunming) and Yunnan Province in general (Dali, Lijiang, etc) are popular tourist destinations domestically, but less so internationally in my experience, though they seem to have potential.