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Split-Flap Arrivals/Departures Boards

Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:26 am

Are there any airports that still use the split-flap arrivals/departures boards? I know FRA used to have one. For those that don't know what I'm talking about its the type of display board that was used in the movie The Terminal.

Like this...

http://sepwww.stanford.edu/sep/bill/...0York/MoMA/MoMA-Pages/Image27.html

I personally love those displays.
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RE: Split-Flap Arrivals/Departures Boards

Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:30 am

BRS Airport has a large one, that I know for sure. It made a nuisance of itself by continually cycling through all of it's options overnight, whilst I was attempting to get some sleep on a bench before a flight early the following morning.  grumpy 
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RE: Split-Flap Arrivals/Departures Boards

Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:34 am

FRA still has one as do many of the train stations in Europe. JFK used to have one in the OLD IAB and so did TWA in Terminal 5. I don't know if PA ever had one in the WorldPort.
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RE: Split-Flap Arrivals/Departures Boards

Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:35 am

Man I miss those. I remember seeing the one at JFK's IAB for so many years.
 
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RE: Split-Flap Arrivals/Departures Boards

Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:36 am

IIRC, I believe I saw those types of display boards in LUX as well...

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RE: Split-Flap Arrivals/Departures Boards

Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:38 am

Brussels has a very big one.
 
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RE: Split-Flap Arrivals/Departures Boards

Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:41 am

I wonder how expensive those things are? How would they compare to a couple dozen or more plasma displays? Kind of hard to pester the local airport authority to go that route versus the plasma monitors if you have no idea how expensive they are. lol
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RE: Split-Flap Arrivals/Departures Boards

Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:45 am

Quoting Indy (Thread starter):
Are there any airports that still use the split-flap arrivals/departures boards?

Changi T1 and T2 both have them...
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RE: Split-Flap Arrivals/Departures Boards

Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:48 am

Quite a bit of money was spent on terminal art. A board like this is art in a sense. It is art. It is history.
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RE: Split-Flap Arrivals/Departures Boards

Thu Nov 08, 2007 7:16 am

FRA still has theirs. DUS had them until the fire in 1996. I believe that FRA wants to keep theirs because the feel it gives the travellers more of a sense that things are happening and moving. Makes sense to me, and I love listening to the click clacking of those signs.
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Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:59 am

I believe MUC has them as well.
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RE: Split-Flap Arrivals/Departures Boards

Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:49 am

It's not exactly split-flap but HNL has them across their check-in lobbies that make pretty much the same shuffling sound and they look like they use little highlight circle stickers to form the general information. It always catches my attention when I hear the flight board switch info. It flows down the rest of the board.
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RE: Split-Flap Arrivals/Departures Boards

Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:52 am

Cologne has one in each terminal
 
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RE: Split-Flap Arrivals/Departures Boards

Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:20 am

Quoting Indy (Reply 8):
Quite a bit of money was spent on terminal art. A board like this is art in a sense. It is art. It is history.

I believe one is (was?) in New York's Museum of Modern Art. Saw it last year in a museum and am 98.5% sure it was MoMA. It was set to change roughly every minute or two, and just watching/hearing it was kind of mesmorizing for an airline geek.
 
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RE: Split-Flap Arrivals/Departures Boards

Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:22 am

Not aviation, but I recall one of the London train stations having this type of signage.

Great. Now I'm going to have that "flip/flap" sound going thru my head all morning.
 
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RE: Split-Flap Arrivals/Departures Boards

Thu Nov 08, 2007 12:27 pm

Does anyone remember if there was/is such a departure board in the old TWA terminal at JFK?
I seem to recall one there, but I may be confusing it with someplace else.
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RE: Split-Flap Arrivals/Departures Boards

Thu Nov 08, 2007 12:39 pm

Auckland still has a couple of them. I much prefer them to the new TV screens.
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RE: Split-Flap Arrivals/Departures Boards

Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:39 pm

IIRC MEL international has modern ones just for the sake of having a 'split-flap' system. It's pretty quiet but cool to watch.
 
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RE: Split-Flap Arrivals/Departures Boards

Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:51 pm

MNL still has them in Terminal 1.
 
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RE: Split-Flap Arrivals/Departures Boards

Thu Nov 08, 2007 3:43 pm

in FRA there is one in Terminal 1 A and another in B. There is also one in arrival hall A and if I'm not mistaken in C, but the very huge one in front of the entry to the security area of B doesn't exist anymore.

afaik the board refreshes every four minutes. I heard this one day, but never count the minutes so far.  Smile
 
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RE: Split-Flap Arrivals/Departures Boards

Thu Nov 08, 2007 3:59 pm

It's been 5 years or more since I was there, but didn't MCO have one?
 
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RE: Split-Flap Arrivals/Departures Boards

Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:33 pm

Quoting Knope2001 (Reply 13):
I believe one is (was?) in New York's Museum of Modern Art. Saw it last year in a museum and am 98.5% sure it was MoMA. It was set to change roughly every minute or two, and just watching/hearing it was kind of mesmorizing for an airline geek.

When I was looking for info on these boards I believe one of the pics was in a museum. Probably the one you are talking about. These boards to aviation geeks like us would be like shiny things to rednecks  Smile We are drawn to it and are in awe of it. We'll stand there and just stare at it waiting to see what kind of surprise is just a flip or two away.

Quoting Olympus69 (Reply 20):
It's been 5 years or more since I was there, but didn't MCO have one?

I may be thinking of another airport but I think MCO has a large display board that is a dot type system versus this flip-flap display. Or something like this...

http://www.airchive.com/airline%20pi...2003/TBIT%20departures%20board.jpg
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RE: Split-Flap Arrivals/Departures Boards

Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:58 pm

Quoting Knope2001 (Reply 13):
I believe one is (was?) in New York's Museum of Modern Art. Saw it last year in a museum and am 98.5% sure it was MoMA. It was set to change roughly every minute or two, and just watching/hearing it was kind of mesmorizing for an airline geek.

You are correct. I've seen it too although the flight information it displays is completely incoherent. LH flights to France, DL flights to LHR, TW flights, PanAm flights, mixing airline flight numbers and airline logos (apparently UA uses BA's logo now!), etc. I noticed, and while the average museum goer won't it bothered me a little bit.

Is there any way I could get part of one? That would be awesome to have in my house, cycling through all the flights I've ever done.

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RE: Split-Flap Arrivals/Departures Boards

Thu Nov 08, 2007 5:51 pm

Quoting Indy (Reply 21):
may be thinking of another airport but I think MCO has a large display board that is a dot type system versus this flip-flap display. Or something like this...

You're probably right. I just remember it as being a very large board dominating the concourse.
 
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RE: Split-Flap Arrivals/Departures Boards

Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:09 pm

GIG has them at customs (not sure about the departures/arrivals- but I think they are flip too)
 
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RE: Split-Flap Arrivals/Departures Boards

Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:39 pm

QF has one in their SYD F-class lounge. Obviously only departures are shown.

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RE: Split-Flap Arrivals/Departures Boards

Thu Nov 08, 2007 10:13 pm

IIRC both Budapest (Terminal 2) and Warsaw Airports have them. IMHO the nicest one I've seen is in Keleti (East) Railway Station in Budapest.
 
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RE: Split-Flap Arrivals/Departures Boards

Thu Nov 08, 2007 10:23 pm

Oh, how I miss the sound of those split-flap machines.

What I don't miss, however, is that there was only one in each terminal. Now there are displays all over.

BTW, two months ago I stumbled over a clock with such two in. high split-flap digits and gave it to my mother. She is an old lady with poor eyesight, and it's the only clock she can easily read.

When it shifts to another full hour, then for a second it sounds almost like an airport in the good old days, and I imagine the thunderous sound of RR Avon powered Caravelles and PW JT3C powered DC-8s in the background. And I almost smell the smoke from a CV-440 engine start-up at gate A1 just outside the open terminal building window.

It was the days of fast travel. You arrived at the airport ten minutes before departure, loaded your heavy bag on the "checked baggage cart" yourself, delivered the often hand written ticket to the F/A, and ran on the plane. And arrived at destination sooner than you make it through the security queue today.
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RE: Split-Flap Arrivals/Departures Boards

Thu Nov 08, 2007 10:26 pm

Ah the memories. Takes me back to when I was young and a trip to the airport was an outing for the family. (late sixties and seventies). We would all go there, park, look at the big planes and have dinner. When those boards were installed, I would just stand there watching them. Loved it.
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RE: Split-Flap Arrivals/Departures Boards

Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:50 am

If MoMA had one on display, it might have been the Train Arrival/Departure board from Amtrak-Pennsylvania Station. I remember that they had a monster split flap machine there for years. I remember waiting for my train's platform number to show on that board and the racket that thing made in that small, enclosed space. I thought the way they used it for the opening credits in "The Terminal" was pretty clever.
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Fri Nov 09, 2007 4:12 am

There's a restaurant in NYC named "Otto" (A Mario Battali restaurant). If there's a wait for a table the host/ess will give you a "train ticket" with an Italian city on it, and you know your table is ready when the city appears along with the time on the old-style "split-flap" information board.

Pretty cool!
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RE: Split-Flap Arrivals/Departures Boards

Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:49 am

Quoting Indy (Reply 21):
I may be thinking of another airport but I think MCO has a large display board that is a dot type system versus this flip-flap display.

IIRC, MCO had a dot type or whatever it's called. I was there last week, though, and there are now several LCD or plasma screens in its place.
 
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RE: Split-Flap Arrivals/Departures Boards

Fri Nov 09, 2007 6:08 am

I got an email back from an airport rep stating he things some sort of digital display will be going in our new terminal. If they are closed off to considering alternatives it would be a huge disappointment. Those digital displays are just so dull.
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Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:03 am

You can even have a split-flap board on your computer screen:

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RE: Split-Flap Arrivals/Departures Boards

Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:12 am

Oh im glad someone started this thread. I thought I was the only one that missed these. I remember as a kid at LHR T2 waiting for family and just watching and listening to the boards and the noise they made. It was always exciting when the board changed from ''Landed'' to '' Baggage in Hall'' . Then it was the wait til my family came through.

I think they should bring them back to more airports. They were alot better than the TV screens now. I love the one at FRA T1 . The new Athens airport has a digital version in the same style but its not the same .
 
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RE: Split-Flap Arrivals/Departures Boards

Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:12 pm

Jakarta Soekarno-Hatta International Airport has them. But they are being replaced with LCD monitors. The units are still in place, but just are not used in most cases. The one's in Jakarta are very large and you could only have 1-2 hours of departures listed during the busy times. The one's in the domestic terminal never seemed to work.

Works at small airports but not very well at busy one's. Incheon International has a large digital sign but it can only hold about 1 hours worth of departures. It is worse when they show the code share flights as separate flights. Being from ATL, I am used to the TV monitors because that is all I remember. Except for the very old fashioned manual boards.

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RE: Split-Flap Arrivals/Departures Boards

Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:15 pm

BRE has a large one. They are great, I like seeing them.
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RE: Split-Flap Arrivals/Departures Boards

Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:23 pm

I remember when terminal 2 in ORD had one...mostly TWA flights
 
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RE: Split-Flap Arrivals/Departures Boards

Sat Nov 10, 2007 12:59 am

Secaucus junction (rail transfer station) in NJ has 4 of these huge split flap style board announcing departures in it's main corridor. Said corridor has a huge high ceiling, and is really echoey. Sounds awesome when the signs change. The signs all change in sequence, one after the other, around the room.

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